CapitalRecordings, just because you don't agree with what people are saying doesn't mean that this thread should be stopped.
Living in a free society means having to put up with the views of people you don't like.
You can't go around wanting those who you disagree with to be stopped; that's the route to fascism or dictatorship.
I think it's more a case of NZ music having moved on from the 80s. I think nowadays what we do best is chilled out dubby stuff, like the Nomad, Pitch Black, Salmonella Dub and so forth. That's what I think of when I think of a New Zealand sound.
The 80s Flying Nun bands were inspired by 60s psychedelia and the Velvet Underground; they were opposed to all the crap on our airwaves back then; internationally the 80s was an appalling decade for music.
There's no need to call me a d**head. I know what this is about, I just thought my comment was reasonably relevant.
Sheesh, calm down ...
Well I did see Voom a couple of months ago, at Dogs Bollix, and the singer forgot the words to King Kong; it really annoyed me cos that was the song I was most looking forward to.
It would've been alright if he'd ad-libbed something clever, but I guess not everyone is Jarvis Cocker.
I mean, I can remember the words, and I didn't write the song. So shouldn't they be able to as well?
Hi, can anyone recommend all-NZ music streaming radio?
I was listening to www.vision100.com but they seem to play the same stuff too often.
I want something that doesn't repeat a song more than once every eight hours.
radio.nzmusic.com didn't seem to work.
Pitch Black - Electronomicon
Bic Runga - Beautiful Collision
Stereo Bus - Brand New
Chills - Submarine Bells
Strawpeople - No New Messages
sorry Muttonbirds - Envy of Angels (UK version w/out Along the boundary) is number six
And then Weta - Geographica and then Straitjacket Fits - Melt and then and then and then (phew - stop now!)
So, what are the actual dates and venues please, if it's not too much trouble?
Do the badly named "Dead End Beat" have their own website?
Re Breathe:
Don't Stop the Revolution wasn't a perfect album, but it had some of the best NZ songs I've ever heard. The singles were great. Only trouble was the album was a wee bit long and samey.
NZ:
vox: Carly Binding
guitar: David Saunders
keyboard/b.vox: Martin Phillipps
bass: Dave Yetton
horns: Nathan Haines
Drums: Tom Larkin
Hmm that was eclectic; don't know what kind of sound I am going for!
International:
Vocals: Ian McCulloch
Guitar: Nick McCabe
Keyboard: Bernard Butler
Bass: Mani
Drums: Reni
And this choice is a bit more obviously brit-pop type of thing ...
Shihad good. Pacifier bad.
I just can't get my head around the new album, despite numerous attempts. Seems to me they've become everything they used to despise. Why are they trying so hard to make it in the US - the price is too high!
Why not follow the Datsuns/D4 route and create a buzz in Britain, then go to the US on your own terms, without selling out. Also, there's loads of continental Europe ripe for the picking!
Play the MOSH festival in London this summer.
So the bonus disc has just come out. There's only one "new" track, Abandoned Dam. Has anyone heard it yet?
Is it the one they play live something about "Water finding its own level" or some such ...
It was HDU. I didn't go, but I did try to catch them in London the same week. Sadly I was left outside the door without a ticket :-(
Hi,
are there any other good second hand record stores apart from Real Groovy? All the smaller ones that used to be here (e.g. on K Rd) have now gone. Any ideas?
my holy grail:
Straitjacket Fits "Hail" on CD.
oh, I didn't know anyone was gonna be meeting up ... never mind.
OK, so Friday was my first time to see TLBT, and yeah, they are worth all the gushing they get on here. Utterly brilliant, just full of excitement. Probably someone's said this before but they could be the next Datsuns or D4.
The question isn't meant to be "rockist". It's just that electronica doesn't generally go in for songs, or telling a story.
Like spilly's suggestion.
The point I'm trying to go for is lyrics that can make you feel something; that you can react to. Agree about the early Chills lyrics, with the exception of "Leather Jacket" - that song's all about the riff, not the words (not that it isn't great though).
Actually I once heard the Exponents butcher it in concert.
Nah, it's rubbish. He's trying to sound scary but it just doesn't work, it's laughable.
He's the guy in the white stripes.
Unfortunately in the NME article they were quite nasty to the D4.
I think the D4 are losing what traction they had over here in the UK; Get Loose wasn't even reviewed in the NME>
Thanks, but I think some of you are missing the point. I'm talking about lyrics which could stand up on their own.
Also, what are the lyrics about?
James Reid and Neil Finn's lyrics are basically about nothing specific.
I found the Verlaines and Able Tasmans lyrics are both a bit hard to deduce what's going on. They're kind of unspecific; I want something with clarity.
Hi, can anyone recommend a good NZ lyricist?
Some I have admired in the past include Don McGlashan (Blam Blam, Mutton Birds) - his songs have a real sense of NZ in them.
Jeremy Taylor (Throw, Cinematic) - his songs have an angsty quality perfect for pining after love lost and found.
But I'm struggling to come up with any other intelligent NZ lyricists; i.e. a cut above your Datsuns/Tadpole/Strawpeople kinda thing.
Jon Toogood (Shihad) has his moments, in a kind of "smash-the-system" way, but he's lost the plot on the new album.
Bic Runga's new album is lovely though.
Also, can you describe the music they make too.
righto,
I'm an NZer living in London and listen to lots of NZ music. It makes me kind of homesick, and is one of the main reasons I want to go back to NZ (ironic since bands like Suede and Pulp were what made me want to move to the UK).
Do any other non-NZ people get homesick listening to NZ music? Anything in particular do that for you (and what does it remind you of)?
PS listening to You Am I's "Purple Sneakers" makes me homesick for Australia.
Anyone else disappointed with the Subware album?
I loved their earlier tracks like Disco Hoopla and Music Matters.
I can't see why they didn't include more of them on the album.
Come On is on there, but it's a rubbish mix.
At least Move Back is on there untouched, but I would've loved to have had the aforementioned missing two tracks.
The album just doesn't have much to grab your attention, it's a bit bland. I was expecting big things from these guys; I thought they were the equals of Pitch Black but in a house direction.
I'd have to say they haven't lived up to their potential.
Hi,
I have a spare ticket for Valve tomorrow (Wellington, Tue 15th)
I'll sell it for $30.
or cost price + booking fee = $28 + a beer at the gig.
You will have to meet me at the venue to collect it.
PM me if you're keen.
cheers,
Bevan.