I know this indy film director here in nyc who directed him in a film about 6 yrs ago. She told me that he was destined for greatness then - not only that weird 'star quality' on camera, but writer, director etcetc . He was lauded as one of the newly young greats at this year's Sundance festival for a movie he wrote and directed. Yes dustonious - it would appear he's the real deal.
See this list of 'venerable copyists' acknowledging their debt to the pixies.
What NZ bands most obviously get and use the verse chaos verse approach (and i'm not saying it's a bad thing ) ........
love's ugly children, - 3ds (outerspace, hey suess...) - weta?
from *Slate* ... And yet the Pixies were remarkably influential: Sonic Youth may have coined the phrase "verse-chaos-verse" to describe their own formula, but it was Pixies frontman Black Francis who perfected the trick of sailing airy, folklike melodies into seas of screams and white noise. "I was trying to write the ultimate pop song. I was basically trying to rip off the Pixies," Kurt Cobain said in 1994, when Rolling Stone asked him about the runaway success of "Smells Like Teen Spirit." Seven years later, Radiohead guitarist Johnny Greenwood told British television that "the reason we don't use as much guitar now is there are only a handful of Pixies albums. You can't keep copying them." (Compare the famous scrape of Radiohead's 1993 breakthrough single, "Creep," to Pixie guitarist Joey Santiago's work on Doolittle's "I Bleed.") Of course, a great many bands have done just that—as Dave Grohl of the Foo Fighters put it recently in New York Times, "The quiet/loud dynamic that's dominated alternative radio for the last 14 years can be attributed to one and only one band, the Pixies."
nice work mr flux.
ahh 2 tracks - some of the best damn collisions i can remember
in New York tonight:
THE UNDERTONES, the Knitting Factory, 74 Leonard Street, TriBeCa, (212) 219-3006. The Undertones were Ireland's standard-bearers for 1970's punk-rock, hurtling through songs that held on to pop melody and reveling in teenage kicks. They have reunited without Feargal Sharkey, their original lead singer. Tonight at 9, with the Prodigals and Joe Hurley and the Gents opening; tickets are $25 (Pareles).
oh dear. hard to argue with this logic. good luck then, i know when i'm beat.
>> let the LOTR folk enjoy the fun without pushing the business angle.
ok - this is just silly - it's called show business for a reason - it's a business!! yes - it's a creative industry - yes - many of the people who work there are artisans for whom LOTR is a day job while they work on their short movies etc etc - and yes - i'm sure they'll enjoy the fun while KNOWING its a business. give them credit.
>> but when the PM is making these comments for International press,
it makes the country look like hungry pigs,
no - it really doesn't - not here in the US anyway. The overwhelming 100% response I've had from every us citizen that has spoken to me about it goes in this order: 'congratulations - you must be very proud ... followed quickly by .... you guys can really make this work for you -get more movies down there etc etc etc. people get it - and expect us to get it as well - anything less makes us look like a bunch of over-excited small-towners
>> i just think there's more to life than dollars
of course there is - but that's not the point here. the movie business is all about dollars, and i say it's good for nz to be seen to understand this (that is - the PM's comments demonstrate our understanding)
here's my nickel's worth .... less about the artistry, more about what this unbelieveable advertisement is selling.
this is a crazy big deal for nz's screen production industry - film, tv, the whole nine yards. it means more kudos for jackson - he's already considered one of the 20 most powerful people in hollywood (and he doesn't even live there). and it means more attention, interest &c for nz made films getting distribution deals, actors getting jobs, etc. this helps our local film industry grow. i think this is good.
it's very clear to me that this is new zealand's year in the US - that is - the year that the great welt of the US becomes more aware of who we are, where we are, and why we're 'ok'. this may not matter to some of you. on some levels i understand that point of view. but understand this - nz is totally dependent on its exporting companies to make profits, and the economy grows so they pay taxes. the more nz is on the radar of joe six-pack and mary soccer-mom in Sheboygan, Wn, the easier for nz companies to export more stuff. and that makes it possible for our standard of living to be better and so on and so on. this is important if you care about what nz will be like in 10-20-50 years time.
an amazing artistic achievement - yes; an inspiration to generations of nz's creative people - yes; an advertisement to tell a 'more than just clean and green and full of sheep' story about nz thereby promoting nz for what it really is - clever, switched on, a first-world country with the same highs and lows as any other 1st world country - yes; exploitation? - no - just how it works ...
You're so right Robyn - and yet its even more deliniated. You have a date, dating, seeing someone, then a girl/boyfriend - in ascending order of seriousness. And everyone seems to have different expectations about each level. I am - as an interested observer outside of all of this - constantly amazed by how structured these rules seem to be for some people, and how seriously they can be taken, esp in new york.
agreed. though ubiquity does make it easier. and - as one that uses a mac as a demo notebook it'll be a good thing ....
Garageband - a Mac thing $US49 - announced 15 minutes ago.
**well, logic i guess given apple own it
gentrification indeed ... you may've heard talk of a geary-designed basketball / retail / housing project that will be built on the corner of flatbush and atlantic if a local guy buys the NJ Nets. They'll become the brooklyn nets and the anus projects could become chi chi studio apts ....
nice guy - that's a fair point you make - the neocons in power are scary people, even scarier up close as i'm now living in new york. we'll see what happens in November 2004. remember Gore had more of the popular vote gw bush is the first president ever to be *elected* with less of the popular vote. there are millions of americans who are downright embarrased, deeply saddened, and very angry about their country's foreign policies.
in saying *get over it* the point i was trying to make is that things are not so balck and white as the stupid *all americans are ...* above
//America = country full of fat and ignorant people!
sigh .... jazz, democracy, many socially progressive movements, more good music than you can shake a stick at (every nz band will name check at least a couple of US influences,) hemingway, roth, browning, plath, delillo, jackson pollock, ansel adams, etc, the light bulb, the telephone, the PC, the artifical heart, e=mc2, discovery of dna, sign language ...
so it's come to this - bascially - i'm sick of this simplistic, stupid, *ignorant*, low IQ bullshit. newsflash dumbass - we have fat and ignorant people in NZ - infact - they're everywhere. Without knowing what you weigh all I can say is you're halfway there.
America is a great big place filled with everything that is great and everything that is stupid about humanity - get over it - its a grey grey grey world.
l-sam - you are such a fascist .. hwat happened to your freedom of choice rants?? ... dickhead
ahh - ok - feel better now ...
yes it is - and 'master and me' - the bonny prince billy album - is an example of minimalist wonder. it's really hard to be that less-is-more - that refined - and be so good. it's true mr oldham is less edgy (or surpising) as his "If I could fuck a mountain / Lord I would fuck a mountain" lyrics of the early 90s. still really powerful though. he - and others - are a direct link to the Anthology of American Folk Music (Edited by Harry Smith) a bunch of field recordings from last century with similarly dark and brooding tales. (ok rant over)
fucktard is a great word.
IP sniffers - is the author of this new thread lena o in drag? remarkably similar in many respects.
yes - and for a while anyway - denise was playing drums for the renderers too -sounded good - my god, everyone is a closet drummer ....
i have the same CD - sinking in is good - a friend of mine says gram sounds a little cutesy - but i disagree. that's emmylou harris singing the b.vox - albums recorded at the time gram and emmylou were a smouldering item. - allmusic.com is a good start for links to the whole 60s cosmic american music - trails thru to wilco etc. noizyboy will tell you of connections between local nz acts and this whole palace/parsons thing - won't you noizy? (i couldn't possibly ...etc)
Jet - you may be surprised by this suggestion, but check out the Grateful Dead's two breakthrough acoustic albums from the v. early 70s - workingman's dead and american beauty. good stuff abounds. also - try new riders of the purple sage (jerry garcia on slide guitar), and eccentric english folk/pop like incredible string band. also - never forget uncle tupelo - the precursor to wilco and one of the key acts responsible for brining the whole gram parsons thing into the modern age. As for gram - try grevious angel and GP, he was also in an earlier band called the international submarine band - but they're almost pure rich east coast boys playing hillbilly music - fun though. and if you've a taste for contemporaries of wilco / palace / bonnie prince billy - check out nodepression.org
punk ethos = do it yourself, make it your own .... the ethos lives in many musical styles .... as for the 'type' of music referred to as 'punk' .... try this:
60s US garage band scene (punk aesthetic and ethos) 're-discovered' thanks to Patti Smith's guitarist and anthologist Lenny Kaye - http://www.trakmarx.com/2002_04/14nuggets.htm - the NY / detroit early-mid-70s bands catch on (MC5, Stooges, NY dolls, Patti Smith, etc etc) - as blink says - McLaren exports it to the UK with the sex pistols.
i think one of the enduring bands living the punk ethos is/are the Mekons - who still play but also do group painting exhibitions, and sonic youth - still doing their thing, in their own way 19 albums later (they were young 'uns in the audience and coming up when it was all starting in NY in the mid-70s ...