JamerJ : 2 March 2002 - 11:02pm

Awsome. A good example of cross cultural influence. Non derivative and highly unique. NZ rocks...

JamerJ : 2 March 2002 - 10:34pm

"...that a wicked observation jamerj. thankyou. are you from the USA?"

Yes. New York city area...

" how did you find about NZ music scene?"

Search engine via Yahoo typing New Zealand + Music.

" is it well known there? "

I couldn't accurately answer that question for 260 million people. I can say that of the folks I told about the site, none had heard about it before. However ALL have commented on how well its designed in terms pf artist reference and access to not only audio but video streaming. I DO know of some associates who are heavily into the NZ music scene becuase there is, on the whole, far less edge here in the states. One could say we are relentlessly spanked with Brittney. Not that she's bad, but that there's more potential now with converging world cultures that new combinations are possible. Some elements of the NZ scene as represented on this site confirm this in flying colors.

"nibbles"

JamerJ : 2 March 2002 - 10:17pm

Ed writes: "I hope that all the unheard music which is /failing/ is only failing economically - but is still enriching the people who make it - because they are making music THEY love..."

[Applause] Is the song of the Kingfisher (bird) a failure
because only two or three others hear it? Failure is
highly relative. If you got a rise out of it is it really
a failure across the board?

..."so what if there's no career in your music... (most likely scenario of original music) we make music to hear our own voice resonanting up - maybe? and it's good therapy."

With that attitude and an instrument how could you ultimately fail?
If anyone can stick to that grounding rod you just gave they WILL
have their time. F A I T H I S T H E K E Y

Making music and having a self image of success are TWO different
things. There are folks making original music and very successful.
There are folks making original music and unsuccessful.
There folks making relatively unoriginal music and very successful.
There are folks making relatively unoriginal music and very
unsuccessful...

The strange thing is that success seems to originate as an idea
within us, and if held steady as a feeling, it eventually seems to
happen in our world. So play whatever tune you want but just
keep in the zone of feeling success.

The great challange: How would you talk think and act if you
had what it is you really want? If you could live in that vibration
at the exclusion of other ideas for a length of time it maybe that
it would manifest?

Can you hear you own head voices telling how you shouldn't
be successful? Can you hear your own resistance to the idea?
That would be friction of the principle. It maybe easy to hold the idea for ten or fifteen minutes. But hold it for weeks, and
you'll see the other ideas in your own mind fighting to keep
the status quo.

This is called imaging. One would image success and hold the idea
like a magnifying glass in the sun over a leaf until the smoke appears. Stay clear and don't use anyone else's measure of success, especially with regard to the commercial aspects of music. Get the idea that
original music WILL have a market (and it does-checkout MassEnsemble.com) and let the idea that conformity equals success die by lack of attention to that idea.

Furthermore, our wishing other's to have success and contributing toward that in any way we can, has amazing relatations to our own success.

Use it

JamerJ : 2 March 2002 - 9:44pm

A scientific reality that mirrors this great debate.

The structure of the atom:

Postive and neutral charged bits of energy at the core and
negatively charged bits of energy revolving around it!

Get it? Always been that way. Accept it.
E X P R E S S R E L E N T L E S S L Y regardless of the
response!

Validation was a tool used to potty train us as tots! Leave
a sensitivety to validation OR invalidation where it belongs;
in or near the toilet. (I'm sure there's a NZ equivalent to
that word?)

Smile at the insults
Grin at the criticism
bend with the wind
and FEEL the results

JamerJ : 2 March 2002 - 9:32pm

Awsome question! I would challenge anyone to NOT find incredible amounts of influence durring the major musical eras and cross pollination, otherwise known as IMITATION. The illusion that we
are separate and distinct has always been torn assunder by the
miracle of musical dialog. A good comparison would be inventions
such as the airplane or the lightbulb. In two very different parts of
the world there was concurrent development, so similar as to
make obvious the Truth that ideas pass THROUGH us not FROM us...

Its always been about who has transmitted the idea first, as if
pulled from the wind. Interestingly the blues from the lower
delta were so designed that a transparency to identity was
established. Many of the tunes were just part of everyone's set!

Similar with classical, as the innovations of one led to some
from another who built upon the foundation layed by the former.

Gee, doesn't nature work that way too?

:)

JamerJ : 2 March 2002 - 9:22pm

packaging music is like showing the cover and not the book.
When intention is there, it does not matter what the vehicle is,
an idea is transmitted and as someone stated above WE catch
the reflection within ourselves.

Here in the states a billboard reads "music is 85% in the imagination of the listener." It would seem we hear INTO something with our own inner music. If what we hear is in resonance with our own feeling, emotions and intuitions then we lock on so to speak with a like frequency. The ideal use of packaging would be merely as
station on the dial to get us where we want to go...

The use of packaging BEFORE a concept is not bad either really.
Nature packages her flowers with scent and brilliant hues so as
to attract. Why not music too if the core is accurate in relation
to the shell?

Hence, packaging in it's ideal and un adulterated form would be
merely as a librarian showing an interested reader to the section of library they are seeking. Thus, the mere idea of packaging is NOT bad, it just IS.

With that said, NZ music is amazing. Miles and
miles of respect to the artists I've seen on this site, and to the
site as well!

The polynesian influence is killer along with what I am sensing
is some type of tribal influence ala Trinity Roots? Trust me, you
guys don't really have an issue with over packaging in NZ. USA,
thats another story altogeather!

Cheers