I was listening to 'I wanna be your lover' by Prince the other day, and a thought occured to me - you know who would do a great cover of that or pretty much any Prince song? The Kings of Leon!!!!! Caleb Followil has almost the exact same voice as Prince except gruffer and lower - same intonation, same tone.
wouldn't it be cool to hear them pump out 'Kiss' or something? Will anyone back meup on this audacious claim?
that's the problem innit?
You can find the stuff at a good price easily enough on the internet, but either it's not available to NZ or it costs an arm and a leg to get it here.
I guess it's inevetible living in NZ - there are advantages and disadbantages to being surrounded up thousands of miles of ocean . . . just felt like having a bitch
// heh, don't knock it, I've done five albums and a demo with my sblive, and uh, I'm still using it.
so am I my friend, so am I . . . sigh
hey thanks CC. good to get a first hand account of what actually happened.
I think the debate has got more philisophical now - ie. "if PNC did such and such then that means blah", but it's always good to get some perspective on the actual sequence of events.
good idea - how do you get the resources to import your own though? when you say 'import' do you mean 'buy off ebay' or what?
amendment to the rock shop thing: in the small print they actually throw in a Behringer UB802 mixer, and Steinberg Studiocase software, which ain't too bad I guess . . . I still think it could be got much cheaper on ebay.
nice website there at air studios - most of it's a bit out of my price range, but I wouln't mind the Sony 24-Track if I had the dosh . . . drool . . .
Yeah the Emu 1820M's nice man. I've heard bad things about the converters on the 0404 (apparently the same ones as the Sound Blaster - yuk), but from the 1212 upwards it's all honey and milk . . .
I hadn't seen the guy on trademe, but I am now frantically checking it out.
And as for the rock shop - I checked and tripled checked the mail-out: it IS the PCI card. Oh man . . . I just hope no poor sod gets sucked in by that deal
seems like recenty hip hop has EXPLODED here - most of the big acts (INSIDE NZ anyway) are hip hop or r and b acts like Scribe, Savage, or Adeaze. That seems to be the popular genre at ages 12-17 as was said.
Seems like more people 18-25 are into 'rock' music, or at least guitar music. The biggest thing for 18-25 year olds right now seems to be 'alternative' guiatr/disco acts like Interpol and The Killers - dunno if you'd classify them as rock though.
It also varies by area - hip hop is more popular in South Auckland, whereas dub and reggae are massive in Wellington. Dunedin is 'alternative' stuff like those bands above. Christchurch used to be rock but now it's also quite know for hip-hop, what with Scribe's success and all.
oh yeah and Eminem 'Without Me' - the osama dance - classic . . .
i have exceeded my qouta now surely. I'll shut up now . . .
funny how most of these videos are from the 80s - it was the ultimate era for video bad-ness - people so enamoured with the technology they had that they used it when it was entirely unnecessary (such as to create the aforementioned mixing desk transitions in the Eurythmics video.
Mine are from the 80s too haha:
1. Eddie Murphy - "Party All the Time" - The videos not much - just Eddie Murphy in a studio singing and Rick James egging him on, but it's just so funny watching Mr Murphy sing. Throughout the video Rick gets more and more excited and then halfway through jumps out from behind the mixing desk, comes into the recording room and picks up a SECOND BASS and just randomly starts playing. I stress the point that there is NO SECOND BASS IN THE SONG. Why???!!!
2. Toto- "Africa" - has the 80s head-turn thing, plus a recurring spinning globe that keeps stopping and zooming in on Africa - they do it like TEN TIMES - ALRIGHT WE GET IT!!!! It's AFRICA. And there's a classic shot of a hunter trying to shoot a lion, and this random hand pops out of nowhere and pushes his barrel down - What the hell???!!
3. Lionel Richie - "Dancing on the Ceiling" - he ACTUALLY dances on the ceiling . . .
4. Wham - "Wkae Me Up Before You Go Go" - there are no words . . .
Also, I find the new Mo'Reece video really funny - why, halfway through the video, do all those people appear and they start having a party and dancing and stuff?? It's completely unrelatedto the rest of the video . . . :D
ok, Bitching time . . .
I just received the Christmas 'special' mail-out think from the Rock Shop and it reminded just how hard (or expensive) it is to get decent music recording gear in good ol' NZ.
They had an M-Audio Audiophile Soundcard for NZ$949 ON SPECIAL!!! you can get that thing on ebay for US$150 DELIVERED TO YOUR DOOR. Thats a NZ$700 ish saving!!! And it's ON SPECIAL!!! barghhh!!!
that's not to mention that everything else there is twice the price of what it would be in say, the US or England, or even Australia. Sometimes it sucks to be a kiwi . . .
Anyone else feel my pain?
weird. maybe you need to compress the track a bit to cut out some of the highs and lows? Dunno, just guessing.
That's fucked up - I've never seen Cool Edit do that except when trying to remove a vocal track.
// Cool Edit, I guess I didn't do it properly??
not sure. I use Cool Edit as well, but it shouldn't come out like that. You know what I'm talking about? - All those digital "bubbly" noises that happen when you us a bad vocal remover or something . . .
what did you do, just save it in mp3pro format?
"and that's exactly what can be expected to happen. there's nothing incredible or world turning happening here, it just seems ludicrous going on about how fighting is bad when it's not an unrealistic outcome."
not an unrealistic outcome!!!!??? So, if this thread gets too heated are you gonna 'BUST OUT' on all of us?
you lost me when you "busted out" the "what IS right ot wrong" argument. That's bullshit. You seem to be saying that it's all down to perspective and there is no right or wrong, just action and reaction - so if PNC or Scribe or whoever the fuck it was had KILLED the guy, would that be acceptable because it was his perspective? We have laws for a reason - to define (albeit loosely) what is right and what is wrong. When you beat the lviing shit out of someone and they don't touch you, that's overstepping the line, and just cause you're a celebrity doesn't mean you're exempt from that.
bah - I'm getting all tied up in the ethics of the situation. I just think it's ridiculous to defend someone, ANYONE, who kicks someone's teeth in for talking to them the wrong way. Tht's just not called for, no matter who you are.
s'not bad at all man - I like the bassline groove.
Recording's a bit out of whack though - you recorded this with protools? What kind of gear (mics, preamps etc) did you use? That solo cuts me in hlf cos it's WAY too loud.
also, what did you use to compress it into mp3 format? There's all these digital bubbles in there spoiling the sound.
so yeah, nice groove and drumming. the recording/conversion to mp3 could be better - but it's just a demo like you said, so it's cool - nice work.
the link seems to be bung man - it sends me to onlinecigaretteclub.com. Much as I would love to be a member of this illustrious and intrigueing group, I gotta ask where the mp3 be at?
i dunno what the problem is but I can't ping their server so I'm assuming it's down. You could e-mail contact@hiphopnz.com as that's the contact on the domain, but if they're down there's no guarantee they'll get that.
sorry, I guess I'm not much help :(
I don't think anyone's saying Scribe should ACTUALLY rap a comeback - you'd just think that someone who essentially gets paid for talking could use his mouth before his fists.
Fur Boy - here is my ABC 123 acction-outcome model:
white boy talks some trash to World Famous in New Zealand rappers ---> rappers beat the living shit out of him rather than engaging his point verbally ----> nickjc badmouths said rappers on nzmusic.com because he doesn't think that was a very nice thing for them to do.
having said all that though, I wasn't aware that it was a racial slur - was that in the news? In my opinion that still wouldn't justify the beating he got, but I could see how things could come to blows if there was a racist remark in there somewhere
well said sir.
I never heard about the shit on the stairs - that's classic
The Difference Between Me And You Is That I'm Not On Fire - what a great album title - I gotta check that one out.
Who are the English dudes who do that 'Sopba' song? (forgive him if I mispelt it) It's been on Bfm a lot . . .
he's 14 I think. That's what they said on the TV coverage anyway. I know nothing else about him sorry.
he didn't get into a 'scuffle' - he stood by while his mate kicked the living shit out of a guy. You keep calling it a 'fight', which overlooks the fact that, from what I've heard, Phil never faought back - that's not a fight, that's a beating.
And yeah, Scribe said in a speech that he bought a VRX or something recently. Then I read in Rolling Stone that he had just bought another one - I guess that could be inaccurate, but he's not tarving, Mr Scribe.
like Natalise says, we can't 'train' our kids to not listen to icons: Who's cooler - Mummy or Scribe?
We all carry a responsibility to the people we directly influence. If I stood by as my mate bashed up a radio broadcaster while my little brother stood there watching, then I would have to be held accountable for the influence that had on my little bro. Scribe's base of people who he influences happens to be a little wider, so the issue is magnified.
I like scribe's music, but because he's a celebrity that doesn't mean I'm gonna cut him any slack - I wouldn't do it for anyone else. If he can afford 2 goddamn flash cars, he can stand up and take responsibilty for his actions, or lack thereof.
gee, I just noticed how bad my spelling/typing was in the last post. sorry everyone - always avoid typing when angry
oh yeah!!! Snow Patrol - Final Straw. Brilliant album. Especially 'Spitting Games'
I gotta disagree man.
Much as I love the black caps and want to see them win, we DO NOT have just as much talent as the Aussies. Glen McGrath is one of the finest pace bowlers in the world, ever. Where is our answer to that? Jacob Oram, James Franklin et al are alright, and they're growing, but they don't have the experience, the poise, or probably even the natural ability of a Glen McGrath or a Shane Warne. They have the luxury of leaving Brett Lee out of a test team. Were Brett Lee a kiwi, he would walk into any test team that we wanted to play.
The way I see it you go player for player - if you had to select a best team from the NZ and Aussie squad, how many kiwis would there be? Maybe Jacob Oram, but who else? McCullum's a fine player and he's growing but he's dwarfed by Adam Gilchrist. Vettori is a vetweren now, and he's the man no doubt, but given the choice would you pick him or the world's highest test wicket-taker Shane Warne?
They've developed this team over many years through great funding and training, and that's why they still have the talent coming through, not to mention the fact that they have a much larger pool of players to pick from.
I'd like to see some big Samoan fast bowlers fplaying for us - Jonah Lomu seems to be out of rugby - maybe he can make the switch? Who wouldn't tremble at Jonah coming in off 30 paces?