SAVE HELEN YOUNG STUDIOS!!!!

We lost broadcasting house in wellington back in 1997 because of National government stupidity and with it lost one of the best studio complexes in the southern hemisphere (yes, i'm serious, BH kicked york street's and 301's asses). Now we are in threat of losing the only public studio left, Helen Young Studios in auckland, complete with varaiable acoustics not found in many other places in teh world, this room is a national treasure and to lose or have it turned into offices (or in the case of BH a fucking park!) would be a travesty, come on people, stand up and stop the loss of a national treasure!!

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stop the bulldozers!
dude, what do you propose?

Why are they at risk? Who owns them and who is prposing they be shut down?
And are these the 'live at Helens' studio recording you alwasy hear on National?

yes that is them

There was a peice about them on TV on Sunday night. Back when the govt decided it wanted some cash from its radio assets and sold off all of the commercial stations it had around the country, it decided that Helen Young Studios was part of the commercial branch of Radio NZ rather than its public broadcasting branch. So it got sold too, to Radioworks, but with a lease arrangement back so they could do the "Live at Helens" stuff. I *think* that this arrangement is about to expire. Since the sale to Radioworks, the Auckland property prices have sky rocketed, so that having money tied up in premises that can only be hired to poor musos and Radio NZ is not an efficient use of the capital involved - so there is a worry that the premises will become another apartment building or carpark or brothel or whatever gives a better return - or maybe Radioworks have actually announced a plan (I missed that bit of the programme on Sunday and haven't seen any mention in the papers of what Radioworks is up to).

In the 80's National Radio was separated into two segments, commercial and non-commercial. The non-commercial wing is the broadcasting arm, the commercial is the recording side (a very simplistic view, but enough for here).
At the time Broadcasting House in Wellington was the main Studio-large enough for an orchestra, sand filled doors, the whole swag. The National government of the time wanted the space for something else, public opinion was divided, the historic places trust were up in arms and so the building was demolished under cover of darkness- it used to be where those brick sculptures are on the lawn behind the Beehive (a much better use of the space?). In its place the Helen Young Studios were constructed in Auckland. The studios are in a building owned by Radioworks, on Cook St. Problem is the space was rented on a 20-year lease, which is just about up. Radioworks wants its space back to convert to offices, and National Radio doesn't really have the budget to move the studio, so it’s options are, at the moment very limited. On the list of options available is dismantling the studio and selling it off as parts.

did you and I watch the same programme Myshkin? Supposition is counter-productive.

//The National government of the time wanted the space for something else

That would be the great "Let's put the beehive on wheels, roll it backward, and then finish the other planned wing for Parliament buildings next door" plan.

Yes, and a beautiful new wing it is too!!!!

YEs more information please,

Yeh, tht's pretty much it, their lease is up and they've outgrown their current premises in akld so their moving somewhere bigger and giving the space back to radio network, however as said, this could mean the loss of one of the only decent studios we've got left.

Helen Young is a wonderful studio and many great records have been made there over the past 10 years. Its one of the flattest rooms in NZ and has the best microphones in the country. It would be an absolute shame to lose it and history has shown us that the gear will probably be sold off shore never to be seen again in the country. This would be a massive loss.

what it is this best gear in the country business?
what do they got?

microphones.
Neumann M49s (6!)
U67s (heaps)
SM69s
B and K 4011
schopes
STC 4038s
RCA 77s and 44s
etc etc
and 14 channels of NEVE 1073 amp/eq modules

no one other than Mr Gubay has great mics like these.

who is this mr gubay?!

track recording-devonport

//no one other than Mr Gubay has great mics like these

Wat ever bay - your research is good but not that good...

yeh, the guys right those mics mentioned, plus down here in wellington they have heaps more and can use those as well, the room itself has millions of dollars worth of variable acoustic panels, in other words, you can alter the room to have live and dead ends accurately, i don't think any other studios have this.

Helen young is essentially one of the last great studios of Auckland. The mics are one thing, the fact the studio is acoustically variable and completely floating is another, the ProTools rig is top of the line and the mic pres on the outboard neve sidecar are essential into translating NZ music artists recordings into the same we hear from a world commercial music standard. I respect everyone in their preference to recording ideals and production techniques, but Auckland is steadily losing it's ACOUSTIC recording assets. I beleive it to be a reflection of the times where everything from recording budgets to writing songs is influenced by the fact acoustics aren't needed anymore to produce music which is apparently acheivable in a computer. World music hubs such as New York will never lose it's great studios and the fact that the Auckland studio scene is deflating right at the time NZ music is taking off again from an international point of view is figment to the lack of commitment from major labels and now the government. Helen Young is a national treasure that has captured some of NZ's greatest artists in their rawest forms. It is essentially a very great loss to NZ Music if Helen Young disappears.

Out of interest, where did Ben Lummis have his first single recorded?

by the sound of it, his bathroom with a philips karaoke mic

Drums were recorded at Helen Young, weren't they?

Wayne Bell? Recorded by Andre Upston??