Im not a fan, I just think it sux!

Ha Ha Russel Crowe, what a dick!
what did he call himself when he was trying to be a rock god ?- Russ Le Croc o'shite or something similar, and whats his band called now - 8 large oiled men grunting or something?
ha ha ha what a fucking Aussie!!

Drummer is the son of Brent Eccles, whom I'm sure is a kiwi that went to Australia, played with The Angels I think.

Personally I don't like the band, but hell if it helps the be succcessfull in Australia good luck to them.

When they start trying to claim The Phoenix Foundation, the D4 or Golden Horse then let bring out the guns...

//famous Ozzie band

yes that's right the singer is the son of Neil Finn, you know of CROWDED HOUSE that famous AUSSIE band!!!

//CROWDED HOUSE that famous AUSSIE band!!!

In crowded house the aussies win 2 - 1

Im in a band formed in Melbourne, based in Melbourne. We are all Kiwis. Figure that one out

further down the page you said this...
//My band can be called Australian bacause 4 out of 5 of us r[sic] born in Aus[sic],I have 2 guitarist[sic], one of Indian decent[sic] and one of Vienamesse[sic].

So it's clear to me now that you can't be in the tranquilizers. It is also clear to me know that you are somewhat relaxed with the truth, saying one thing to me and another thing to someone else. You know, you can't win both sides of an arguement.

[sic] is used to indicate spelling mistake or grammatical error, or indeed an error of fact in a verbatim quote. It's not a forum thing, it's a general language thing.

sorry I was soppssed to say "contains". Some times I type too fast and fuck up, please forgive me for that

Please forgive me for asking, I havent been in forums for very long, and there 4 dont uderstand U when u say [sic]. please explain?
When I mentioned the decent of 2 of my guitarists, they have parents from asia. From an outsiders veiw we look very muticultural, which I love! They were both born in Australia tho.

The linked mp3s r old demo tracks, by the last drummer who was fired directly after recording (I am a new member) We r re-recording soon with our current line up. Very soon I hope

[ http://www.mp3.com.au/sodacrush/ ]

...deny, deny, deny...

Yes, its not really my thing, but I did see them play a good gig a few months ago, so I dont think I hate them. Salmenella dub has been called a local band for a year (maybe cause they do play here a fair bit). I think I actually find that more annoying but Ive had a year to get used to that. One more thing, correct me if Im wrong, but didnt Shihad get called best australian rock band of the year, last year by Rolling Stone??

They moved here (Melbz) about 3 or 4 years ago, but they simply r NOT Australian. Does living in a place change their nationality?

REAALLLY dont think they would have. Im sure they r proud of being nzers, to the point I would feel cheeky asking. When the world notices a talented New Zealander, they r normally seen by NZ then Aus next, which in a way, is a gate way to the rest of the world. If good nz musos r descovered in Aus I dont think that would make them want to be Australian. I sure as hell dont want to lose my kiwiness. All my kiwi friends r all very proud of being nzers. We r in a way representing NZ, and r just trying to make NZ music more accessable to a wider audiance and bigger crowds.

// Aus next, which in a way, is a gate way to the rest of the world.

auckland airport seems fine for most, the very fact that you refer to australia as being a gateway to 'rest of the world' indicates how local it is.

i can never work out why they go to australia first, i guess because it's.............'local'

so you have the same bigoted attitude towards people from new brighton as you do to people from australia?

//If their home is still NZ, they "belong" to NZ technically, + they were born and bread there (except the drummer).

This whole discussion seems to have got a bit out of hand, but you seem to have a couple of factual innaccuracies here. As you note, Matt Eccles was born in Australia, but has still probably spent the better part of his life in Australia (moved here during high school I believe). I'm not sure where Liam was born, but Neil was living in melbourne on a fairly permanent basis for a good part of Liam's life, so I think it's reasonably safe to assume that Liam spent a fair bit of time there as well. I'm not questioning that they don't have strong NZ links, but I think it's also clear that at least half of the band have a fairly clear relationship with Australia. You might also notice that many people tend to play up their links to certain countries depending on where they are at the time. the Lord of the Rings stars tend to gush about NZ, and they may do so overseas, but I think it would be perfectly normal that they would do so more here. Thus, it wouldn't seem terribly outrageous for Betchadupa to emphasize their affinity with Australia when they are in Australia, and to emphasize their affinity with NZ when they are in NZ.

Sorry, MAY be safe...

damn well said limegreen

I have never really lived anywhere else, but i understand well what you mean.
I'm born, breed and still live in Wgtn, there are other places that I feel part of, places that I have family or where they have come from and even some places that i have been.
I feel comfortable in calling myself Scottish/Engilsh/Spanish and a Kiwi because thats my heritage.

No, I just cant believe that u didnt know about the Dux Delux. How long have u lived in Canterbury? Have u ever seen a band in the city??? Or r u quite happy to sit in New Brighton with your blinders on.

If there is a new better live music venue in ChCh THESE DAYS, please inform me? And for Gods sake dont say Rocky Cola!

opps Cristianity is who Im refering to when it comes to Brighton.

The second half of the post above is (by the way...etc) is for u Rope. How dare u assume u know about my personl life while I was living in ChCh, who the fuck do u think u r!!??

personally babushka i don't give a rat's kidney either way, i'm at home with my cultural and national identity to the point i wouldn't complain if sri lanka was going to call me local if it could enhance my career as a snot sculptur. people have the inherent right to claim to be from anywhere if they like, as a post further down points out, betchadupa are themselves actually claiming to to be from australia so it's not like a bunch of aussies formed a lynch mob and collectively hammered an aussie flag up liam's ass

Hang on , R u saying I Im here representing NZ, I have lost my Identity and Culture as a Kiwi??????