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It's meeting the man of my dreams and then meeting his beautiful wife...
And isn't it ironic... don't you think?
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They wish

[nods]

Well, it seems that they mention the year 1984 quite often in that lyric. Why that year specifically - "gee, I dunno"? And the camera imagery also points to the novel.

I can also make out a Phillip K. Dick/ Blade Runner reference - "electric sheep" and all.

Jeez, these guys would've loved it in Soviet Russia.

//I think there is some confusion here. Just to clarify - Incubus are referring to current American society with their lyrical nods to 1984, right? And your issue is with the fact that the society in question is not really that similar to a truly totalitarian state?

Right. The reference to 1984 is so trite; it's as if the band is trying to show their fans how smart they are. Another instance of this kind of faux-precocity is in Silverchair's godawful (and thankfully out of date) Anthem of the Year 2000.

Put down the crack pipe Lena, only one of them is hot, and that's only if he's got his shirt off.

That's the reason for Incubus putting out songs right? So the guy can take his shirt off in the video?

You're all so cynical. tsk tsk.

lenas post is about a person with a person-ality disorder-&but because he/she/dominatrix desires forum cred so much-he/she/mistress constructs this crazily complex pseudo-unimpressed mistresspersona- &its really quite weird that she spends so much time -not only on the net-but on these forums-o yes-bleating about others' taste when she doesn't seem to be havin fun- quite comical. of course- nothing will satisfy he/she/s&m so much as me replying - course we both agree for diff'rent reasons-i think it's because i justify some little kid deep down inside&she maintains i'm a steaming pile of horse poo -&and makes up a playfully degrading moniker based on my username that will no doubt reel me in summore

gee jimi- youre sharp today- sharp as an aubergine

leave me out of that threesome.

//leave me out of that threesome

don't sweat it rdor, it's not a gay thing.
just quietly i've felt lena's posts to be a smidgen more accommodating in the last couple of weeks

yeah, foal ... I dont get what u mean "c1937"? .... I imagine u mean "Homenage to Catalonia" , a good book by George Orwell if u like to know his experience in the spanish civil war

many people like him came to spain, .. they fought against Franco (the future dictator). They were called "International Brigadists" Brigadistas Internacionales
http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/SPinternational.htm
http://www.international-brigades.org.uk/
today some people would call them "terrorists"

unluckly, Republic lost the war ... and we got 40 years of dictatorship and repression

Its ironic, now I remember this news:

//UN conceals Picasso’s “Guernica” for Powell’s presentation
In an act with extraordinary historical resonance, United Nations officials covered up a tapestry reproduction of Pablo Picasso’s anti-war mural “Guernica” during US Secretary of State Colin Powell’s February 5 presentation of the American case for war against Iraq.

Picasso’s painting commemorates a small Basque village bombed by German forces in April 1937 during the Spanish Civil War. The painter, in desolate black, white and grey, depicts a nightmarish scene of men, women, children and animals under bombardment. The twisted, writhing forms include images of a screaming mother holding a dead child, a corpse with wide-open eyes and a gored horse. Art historian Herbert Read described the work as “a cry of outrage and horror amplified by a great genius.”//
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/feb2003/guer-f08.shtml read the whole news

Anyway, if u want to read this book, "Homenage to Catalonia" u can do it here
http://www.george-orwell.org/Homage_to_Catalonia/index.html

and this essay will help u to understand it lit bit better:
http://www.george-orwell.org/Spilling_The_Spanish_Beans/0.html

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You’re right, a good intro really, and yeah, Stalin was not a Bro of charity ... he killed so many people ...

Im not sincerely a great book reader ... but I dont like to lose what we call “the historical memory” ... ..as a song of a singer-songwriter say: “he who loses his origins, loses his identity”

and u’r right with Noam Chomsky:
http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/19950321.htm

btw ... about civil war ... brothers killing brothers, and families fighting amongst themselves... that’s a civil war ... those are the miseries of a civil war

I believe in the republican cause, not the American meaning ... but republican as in opposed to the monarchy and those who defended the Republic during the Civil War.
Ironically my grandma’s father was killed by so-called “republicans” (those who the day after maybe were “nationals” .. u know), using ideology as just an excuse for a non-sense “vendetta”...not gangster movie vendetta, but vendetta in its original meaning of a non orthodox way to resolve conflicts in the pre-industrial societies of the Mediterranean

Anyway, in my modest opinion “nationals” and Franco had no right to do what they did, because there was an established democracy where people could vote and with a high level of federalism and civil rights (woman’s vote for example). They opened the, what we call, “thunders box” also well known as Pandora’s Box and u all know how it ended

Stalin was a monster ... he killed something like 10 times as many people as Hitler didn't he?

Yes, further proof if any was needed of Lena's words being food for thought.
Please ensure your sitting... New trumpet player in Equus has met Bryan Adams.
I thought that would cheer you up in case you'd fallen in a tar pit or suffering incleminant weather.
Hows that recording?
//In the timing?
Sortta that you got points to make, why loose your effect/turn people off with insults?. if you had nothing to say i'd understand, it seems self-defeating and in some cases churlish otherwise.
Uncle Joe worse than Hitler?
On a straight body count yeah. Its arguable that he saved the world from American Domination for 40 years,re: policy of "Dont fuck with us", a lesson KimJung II seems to have picked up on.Wether the familes of the starved, enslaved, and murderd feel it was worth it is another thing.Theirs also records emerging from the Kremlin that his "Jewish" policy was going to have grave repercussions for that community. His death was timely , Krucshchev was a killer too, slightly more trustworthy with a HBomb methinks. And I know hindsights wonderful but aint it sad that our defenders of the Free world all did business with these murderes? Bush family brokering Nazi Bonds as late as 1941 etc...

ok- lena says the primary objective is not to speak the truth or make a point or insult- its just to have fun

read something which engenders a response in you- write that response- get emotionally involved tho- so if someone writes something rilly stupid- like- lost poobits own you- use all the pity & scorn you feel for the total jerk in your post- remember- the fact that such a band is even allowed to exist is an insult to humanity- anyway- get it out of your system- enjoy the release

if you write the truth a point will always be made- the 1upmanship thing is not an issue- its a given that im way more than 1 up- so it stings some when yall recognize this- too bad- ¿why should i pander to idiots when im the only 1 here that can lift the fuckin xwing outta the swamp?

you bore me to death

Not Solo Lena, Ronald James has taken to quoting you.
This is the problem with proclaiming for yourself a leadership role, you end up with freeloaders, fuck-ups and all round losers as your support cast.
Maybe another V.U namedrop for quick cred fix?

// you end up with freeloaders, fuck-ups and all round losers as your support cast.//

I'm not smart enough to know who/where that was directed, but if it includes me then I hate you foal, forever.

what have you got against Ronald James?, I can't remember any of his posts.

If I may comment ,being lena os bum boy, could there be any lower form of life?

I do not/have not bummed anything or one. Quite why these accusations of Homosexual fancys are posted on a music site is to me odd. "Ass of covet" is a name bestowed on Lena for her particularry humorous quote in a thread about The passion of The Christ. It was a cracker, excuse the pun.
As for RJ, i think progress has been made, hes apparantly going to "put up", which is quite marvollus as i thought he was just another school boy who after learning their Bbm7 bestowed upon themselves the mantle of "Music legend". So until I hear him i'll pay him the compliment of abstaining from inciting him further.It is my opinion that casting aspertions on what others do in their bedrooms is un-neccassary, often offensive, and frankly shows that the commentator of such trash has their mind on things that they shouldnt.
So team, lets keep it positive, i'll endevour to keep my end up. [in a non-sexual way].

//you bore me to death

get fucked//

I was refering to lena o

Bum boy is not neccesarilly a homophobic comment, refers to someone who is a lacky - didn't you ever hear this in school? Its was rhetorical, not YOU but ronald james....whatever this is dumb