i guess he's as close to god as he's ever gonna get now
awesome world changing decision
meanwhile mr bush had a run in with his bicycle
i guess he's as close to god as he's ever gonna get now
awesome world changing decision
meanwhile mr bush had a run in with his bicycle
"God"? I think you're confusing the ...
"God"?
I think you're confusing the word "God" with "famous person".
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ha ha, i was waiting for that, i ...
ha ha,
i was waiting for that,
i don't mean god in that he is faultless
just that......well....we'll see...
Cheney was practicing parking his bike, ...
Cheney was practicing parking his bike, got the idea from some sordid Middle-Eastern prison sex video.George got a helluva shock, hence facial abrasions.
The Palm was asurprize, maybe Mike can charge $75000 rather than $50000 for his campus circuit lectures. Still if it gets voting Americans athinkin its good.
Which Mike Moore are you talking ...
Which Mike Moore are you talking about?
The Bowling for Columbine one or The Ex-NZ PM and WTO Chairman?
the mike moore who just won the palm ...
the mike moore who just won the palm d'or at cannes
without a US distributor
Who here mixes that Mike Moore up with ...
Who here mixes that Mike Moore up with John English?
Anyone here ever appear on Romper Room?
Romper Room....Now that brings back ...
Romper Room....Now that brings back Childhood memories (barely).
"did u ever see a dobbie, a doobie, a doobie" - hahahaha no wonder a whole generation of 20 somethings have turned into Longhaired Smelly Peacenik Hippies, just look at the drug references in RR lol what next a kids show with a theme of "Shoot line of Speed, Come trippin with me".
Half of what was brought up in Bowling ...
Half of what was brought up in Bowling for Columbine has not stood the test of closer scrutiny, and the same will almost invariably happen with this new movie.
Mike Moore is a person who wants to be known as the one who is known for finding things out, rather than being one who finds things out. And in his rush he makes many errors of fact.
Personally I'm waiting for the doco that's being made at the moment where some guy is applying the Mike Moore principles of documentary making to a documentary about Mike Moore.
fortunately, it's a prize for ...
fortunately, it's a prize for compelling film making rather than historical accuracy
you seem to know an awful lot about what he thinks.
i reckon he just wants to inspire people to think a little more...
I always assumed that in the face of ...
I always assumed that in the face of masses of propaganda and skewed representations of events he was fighting fire with fire. Counter-propaganda, rather than balanced historical work.
Clear information is obviously the ideal response, but in a world run by PR, I honestly don't think information will cut it if you want to reach a wide (and often fairly illiterate & ignorant) audience and create real change. (Is that uncharitable?)
*shrug* I dunno what to think sometimes. Is being sympathetic to the message enough to excuse someone trying to con people? If you think the world needs to change then I guess it depends how idealistic you want to be about effecting that change, I suppose.
Again thanks to the crew for closing ...
Again thanks to the crew for closing down a topic deemed 'inappropriate'.
I think it's well past time you ...
I think it's well past time you accepted the fact that use of this site is not on your terms, but on the terms of those who run the site. If you don't like the decisions of those people, there is actually nothing more you can do about it.
oops, delete that....
oops, delete that.
//If you think the world needs to ...
//If you think the world needs to change then I guess it depends how idealistic you want to be about effecting that change, I suppose.
Michael Moore annoys me in much the same way that Nicky Hager does - both are masterminds of their own PR coups, but both rant and rave about how evil PR is.
//Michael Moore annoys me in much the ...
//Michael Moore annoys me in much the same way that Nicky Hager does - both are masterminds of their own PR coups, but both rant and rave about how evil PR is.
AMEN, I got threatened with physical violence in my own home for saying exactly the same thing about Mr Hager to one of his fans-I was woefully unprepared for how stroppy those weedy government boys can be.
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what are you guys on? //balanced ...
what are you guys on?
//balanced historical work.
you want balanced historical work, go to a library, the dudes a film maker.
i mean what's the deal?
some dude with a beard wins an american award for a film about talking trees and there's jizz all the way to temuka, this guy wins the most coverted international film award and you argue he is trying to con people because .....there are no talking trees?
//If you think the world needs to change then I guess it depends how idealistic you want to be about effecting that change, I suppose.
who want's change jet?
do you dig seeing iraqi prisoners jizz over other iraqi prisoners?
is that the kind of historical accuracy you prefer to watch?
perhaps you enjoy seeing americans being decapitated...
films move people, if this award means mike moore will be able to find distribution in the US, then people will be moved, one way or another...
//Michael Moore annoys me in much the same way that Nicky Hager does
there's really fuck all comparison, mike moore is a thought provoking and entertaining film maker and like it or not his films are compelling. nick hagar is a shitty writer.
mr fox mulder, dana sculley and scooby doo,
you want the truth etc etc (a few good men)
best just keep those LOTR on repeat play
*applause*...
*applause*
I have to say I have a similar take on ...
I have to say I have a similar take on Michael Moore as jet (above).
I find the grain of salt a lot easier to swallow with Moore, than with most other propaganda we hear.
Woah, hold up. Did you get the ...
Woah, hold up. Did you get the impression I don't like Mike Moore? I think he's great, and would prefer to watch his movies over LotR or whatever. Not that I particularly want repeat viewings of either...
// this guy wins the most coverted international film award and you argue he is trying to
// con people because .....there are no talking trees?
No, because he juxtaposes things in ways that encourage people to conclude things are factually correct that are not, eg. the location of that missile factory and the timing of the Heston speech in which he went on about not having to ply a gun from his dead hand, both from 'Bowling for Columbine'.
You may remember both dudes won stuff in the same American awards ceremonies (albeit different years). But more got best documentary. I think an ideal documentary should report stuff clearly. What do you think?
i think the fault with ...
i think the fault with 'columbine's'interpretation lies with the academy
the folks at cannes are not so easily duped
ultimately i think this is not so important in that it's mike moore or walt disney
just that the french (albeit led by mr tarantino) made such a bold political step
which will affect american politics
even if it's just their ideal of 'freedom of speech' which is affected
i mean there can't be many american academy award winning directors
who have difficulty getting their next film distributed in america
//you want balanced historical work, go ...
//you want balanced historical work, go to a library, the dudes a film maker.
i mean what's the deal?//
ahh he also writes books . . . Stupid White Men, Dude Where's My Country.
... and he has a tv show, and i'm ...
...
and he has a tv show, and i'm sure he's an excellent chef...
appropriate name lughead
Mike moore +video camera = BARSTED...
Mike moore +video camera = BARSTED
in what language?...
in what language?
I just watched Bowling For Columbine ...
I just watched Bowling For Columbine last night for the first time. I didn't really know what to expect, i mean i had heard it was brilliant but i was expecting something serious and depressing but i really found it quite amazing. All that footage from the Columbine shootings just totally had me stunned, i didn't know much about it before, so i was just taken aback by it all.
All the columbine footage has been on ...
All the columbine footage has been on the news networks. I saw the movie for the first time recently too & recognised those bits.
love or hate him , if u take all the ...
love or hate him , if u take all the corporate-ceo/govt bashing/independantfilm-maker type schtick out of the equation - he's still made a paradigm out of (persistantly) asking questions that if passed thru the greater media filters (bbc/cnn/etc) might not get the same attention ... his shit is relevant.
i think his dweeby middle-american demeanour carries enuf desperate conviction for it to be concievable that hes not just in it for the ratings.... (dunno tho - been wrong b4 ) ;P
yeah, sounds bang on, but he stirs ...
yeah, sounds bang on,
but he stirs more shit than most of the other gimps who are only in it for the ratings
just disregard that post, this 16 ...
just disregard that post,
this 16 colour monitor does nothing for reading
He is an anti freedom, anti gun owning, ...
He is an anti freedom, anti gun owning, anti family, anti defence communist. He should emigrate to China
Have you seen anything he's done at ...
Have you seen anything he's done at all?
sha bi! if he's anti family why did ...
sha bi!
if he's anti family why did he return to the US during cannes festival to attend his daughter's graduation?
china is more profamily than any country i've ever visited.
i'd say anti family-live with rdor.
anti gun-i'll concede
as for anti defence....
nuclear missiles aimed at the US since the 60s would probably dispute that
a 1,000,000 strong army also asks a question or two
and communist?
well that's open to definition
he's a liberal through and through, ...
he's a liberal through and through, democracy and freedom are fine as long at it's the terms HE defines. if americans wnat ot pay 60% tax, be told what they can eat, say, do they'll take notice of this leftist dictator
by the way I'm only trolling...
by the way I'm only trolling
homophobe...
homophobe
egg sucking communist...
egg sucking communist
homophobe....
homophobe.
what's wrong with that?...
what's wrong with that?
interesting question...
interesting question
//by the way I'm only ...
//by the way I'm only trolling//
please believe this. I know no facts about Moore, I've never seen any of his docs, only 'The Awful Truth' series.
Pathetic, yes, I should probably use some *Sarc* symbol but that just makes it look even more pathetic.
what do I have against gays?, it's a preference not an orientation, and while there are some truly effeminate guys out there, many others are bisexual pervs with cockiphilia...
What the fuck kind of dumbass troll ...
What the fuck kind of dumbass troll placates his victims? "don't get annoyed, I'm just trying to annoy you". Dummy
Foal and I have a special bond, so ...
Foal and I have a special bond, so kindly die.
//Foal and I have a special bond So ...
//Foal and I have a special bond
So all the gay-bashing is a ruse?
yes and no...
yes and no
//Oh don't pretend like you didn't ...
//Oh don't pretend like you didn't enjoy it, Heath.
Well, I didn't have any choice! I was desperate...I needed the cash...it was a dark, dark period...look bitch, you promised me you'd NEVER let anyone see that K-mart catalogue, I DEMAND MY MONEY BACK!
//it's a preference not an ...
//it's a preference not an orientation
The third institial nucleus of your hypothalamus may beg to differ.
Hey Rope your sounding more and more ...
Hey Rope your sounding more and more like the Big C.
Rdor, why call Moore a communist? Thats a really lazy description and I think you can do a lot better, how about you itemize where Moore's "facts" are contary to what you believe.go to China makes no sense either, surely a patriot fights to make the changes he believes are nessacary. Moore's got a market of sceptics who love his message/style, surely no-one is veiwing/reading his "art" for a balanced, well-rounded disscussion. Bit like Rush Limbaugh eh?Every political movement has its self-promoting cheerleaders, just argue the points raised/made not indulge in pathetic and utterly inaccurate name calling.
Could you list who in your opinion is a reliable, informed and balanced, "news-presenter"? by providing such contacts i think we would be in a better poistion to judge/value your slant.
F9/11 due in NZ July.
Your concern with what other men do with their nether regions seems at odds with our high-minded principles of indvidulism and freedom. By denying Gay rights your immeaditly falling prey to some of the accusations you level at the "Left-Wing", in general. Some clarification needed?
madeleine you crap crap shag, there ...
madeleine you crap crap shag,
there are no victims here,
just a long list of heather pseudonyms
Everyone is me. Me. Me, me, me. And ...
Everyone is me. Me. Me, me, me. And me too.
yeah,after you busted me, i decided not ...
yeah,after you busted me, i decided not to continue any level of pretense
rdor is a very complex man