Getting older makes for some nasty depression

Suddenly your 23/24 and you start having trouble sleeping, feeling like shit all the time, paranoid, constantly asessing yourself, 'the best years are gone'....and there's only getting older to look forward to....

Is this depression or just life?, and at the risk of sounding like a nutter I wonder if others recognise this.

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get off the grass mate 23/24
retract
and repost when you're 70

Firstly, having Depression doesn't make you a nutter. I can't stress this enough.

As to whether you're clinically depressed or perhaps "stuck in a rut", ultimately that's something you have to decide for yourself. How long have you been feeling this way? Missing sleep, feeling low and questioning your life are symptons of depression, but they're also kinda normal things to have. It's how long it goes on for that becomes the best way to tell, and also if you change things in your life and still feel like shit, that's when you know that there's something wrong.

When you wanna go about changing it, there's basic things you can do - cut out depressants like pot and alcohol, eat better, get more exercise etc, or you can go for counselling which is great (assuming you hook up with the right counsellor) or go the extreme route and get medicated.

This has been another public service announcement...

Nah rdor, I know exactly what you're on about ... I feel the same way every so often (although I would never have a problem getting to sleep!)

I don't think it's depression ... it's probably a good thing - for me it usually helps me confirm I'm doing what I wanna be doing, that I'm moving forward in my life and I'm not gonna wake up in 40 years and wonder whaere the heck it all went wrong.

//helps me confirm I'm doing what I wanna be doing

yeah, i like that. when you feel like every day is a drag, and you suddenly wake up and dread going to work ... time to change a few things. only get one chance at it, might as well be happy and have a good time. unfortunately, dream jobs are hard to find, and most of the time a lot of us spend our time in jobs where we work towards leisure - we try to earn enough so we can take some time off, we're all buying time. our own time ...

i'm still at work. but at least i'm not really spending all my time working. sorry, i'm tired and rambling.

//when you feel like every day is a drag, and you suddenly wake up and dread going to work ... time to change a few things. only get one chance at it, might as well be happy and have a good time.

Absolutely ... one of the main things I believe ...

//unfortunately, dream jobs are hard to find, and most of the time a lot of us spend our time in jobs where we work towards leisure - we try to earn enough so we can take some time off, we're all buying time. our own time ...

Yeah, that's true too ... it ain't easy. I'm sorta happy I spent a few years after I left school doing random pointless stuff, coz it meant I found something I genuinely wanted to do and could put my full efforts into ... but yeah, I could see that not having happened too ...

I've just finish doing that buzz.

I'm turning a manly 25 in June and quite excited about reaching the dirty thirties.

You've got nothing to worry about. Just go easy on the drugs and decide what kind of lifestyle you want and go get it.

Its not as bad as you think it is.

/quite excited about reaching the dirty thirties/

I'm going to frame that... I don't think I've heard/seen anyone say they're looking forward to being 30.

You should take a photo.

I turned 25 four days ago and was totally dreading it....
From about 23 1/2 till a month ago I'd been getting a average of 4.5 hours of sleep a night and feeling really anxiouse all the time. Got some sleeping pills now so it's all right.
This might all sound a bit pathetic and childish but I think when things stay the same for ages, people around you, the place your in, your brain just can't cope......

Turning 25 is a big one - you realise your looks & youthful lifestyle are pretty much going to deteriorate from here on, you worry about future direction & wether you've done anything worth while so far.

I found turning 25 far scarier than turning 30. But 25 ended up being a liberating experience – I finally moved on from that Smiths “16 clumsy & shy” outlook & started taking some responsibility for my own happiness. I just turned 30 & loved it. I’m actually looking forward to my decline into old saggy ball-dom.

Best cure I’ve found for anxiety is St.Johns Wart (you can get it at pharmacies) &, as
Joanna said, slow down on your use of depressants like pot and alcohol when you find your anxiety is increasing.

// Turning 25 is a big one - you realise your looks & youthful lifestyle are pretty much going to deteriorate from here on//

Gee thanks for that reminder.
Snt Johns wart is supposed to make you go bald.
Can't seem to stop having negative felings, not just about myself but about others. And (can I start a sentence with 'and') watching your parents get older aswell is like torture.

....and I don't use drugs (except ofr alcohol) .....not the type.....

whats 'the type' ? :)

// Turning 25 is a big one - you realise your looks & youthful lifestyle are pretty much going to deteriorate from here on//
//Gee thanks for that reminder.
heh... you just gotta go with it. "Deteriorate" is the wrong word - we... evolve? Sure you lose your school boy looks but it doesn't mean you turn into an ug-nort, the american obession with youth = beauty is bollocks. & it's the same with lifestyle - I'd be so depressed if I was still living like I was 10 years ago. We're not doomed to suburban hell, you make the choice of how you wanna live & do whatevers gonna make you happy now.
25 is a transitional stage for many - just go with it & enjoy it. ain't nothing wrong with change & getting older.
StJohnsWart = baldness. whatever.

....and what if you've done nothing with your life...... I simply don't have broad enough range of experiences to move into adult life, and yet I am an adult now. Take resposibility? I've never done that in my life. FFS I don't even have my full license.

By responsibilty I don't mean start a superannuation fund & get a mortgage, I mean do what ya got to enjoy life.
At 24 I had no idea where I was going, hadn't achieved anything, & hated what I was doing - so I took a pay cut & started working in a cd shop, moved into a flat with people I enjoyed, & DECIDED that I was gonna make the most of my 20s. It made me happy anyway. At 29 I moved onto a 'career job', got married at 30 - & I'm happy 'cause I did it when I was ready to. The only way you're going to get life experience is if you make the most of whats going on around, & if that isnt' much - find something/some people/job/study/drugs/ANYTHING that opens you to a range of experiences.

....but I'm scared...

nah ok

I'm 23 and kinda going through that buzz, it's weird, my 22yr old friends dont understand yet and just think im being negative.

I find actually getting out and acheiving something helps. shit im sounding like my father.

Dunno how "normal" it was, but this is pretty much how I felt when I was in my mid 20's - finished 'varsity, working at what was supposedly my chosen profession, thinking "is this all, oh fuck". I do think that most thinking people will go through a period of severe questioning like you are, without it being depression as such. Of course, if it goes on and on with no variation of mood, no ability to take enjoyment in anything, you have to start thinking of depression. For me, the questioning that hit me mid 20's inspired me eventually to get on a jet plane and do something different: it wasn't really until I was in my thirties that I started to feel comfortable in my own skin/choices, and my late thirties that I thought - shit, these things I'm doing, they're paying off. Not that everything is perfect, but expecting that means either you're unrealistic or complacent: as someone important said, the unexamined life isn't worth living. Mind you, someone else said that many people are too scared to confront the reality of their life of "quiet desperation".

every single bit of what rdor said is true.....im already paranoid, having trouble sleeping, feeling like shit all the time, constantly asessing Myself...although ive had this trouble since i was 17 not 24.

//Paranoid and having trouble sleeping
Heh, I used to have that problem then I stopped doing copious amounts of coke and look, all better now, hahaha.

haven't seen you for a while dg where you been?

//having trouble sleeping.

Sam I recommend a furious belt of personnel exercise just before you go to bed. You'll sleep like a baby.

Myself and a couple friends just opened a store out on the coast, so I've been busy dong this and that, we're also starting up an import company so I've not got as much time to fuck about as I use to (Damn!) but that's how it goes I guess. How's all with you man?

it's good,
national holiday this week,
went rural for a couple of days, rode some horse, poled some boat, drank some beer, ate some sheep
now 27 but feeling invigorated and youthful,

christianity I thought you were way older than that

u old farts are gonna be like Grandpa simpson!

the best years are gone. THE BEST YEARS ARE GONE.

There's no such thing as best years, they all suck.

true in some ways, people tend to remember things with rosey coloured glasses. I think back to when I used to go out wed/thurs/fri/sat drinking and music/bands all the time, sometimes you think 'ahh those where the days' then you think about how it really is and weigh up the pros/cons... hangovers, money, drama's, lots of stupid people..etc

but its like relationships when people break up and get back together - you think of all the good things about the person, its not til later when they say/do that damn annoying thing that you realise why you broke up. Anyway... rant rant... i'm inclined to think the best years are further down the track.

the futures so bright you got to wear shades?

hmm now you mention it

old ppl are old... he he he :P

im looking forward to my second childhood

Another song to thank you for MumO. " recycle my ass".