I'll avoid going into a long dragged on rant.
But did any of you feel that the people in the doco, who were meant to represent the majority of twenty somethings were just not reflecting the way most of us are?
Just looking at my self (I know I'm odd though), and then looking at a lot of the people I know, and it just didn't add up to me.
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Those people were twats! I hope ...
Those people were twats! I hope they're getting harassed at work today.
"Generation Next" is a stupid sounding name too. Whatever!
Retards!
thats the spirit tclak...
thats the spirit tclak
some slagging about this going on over ...
some slagging about this going on over at biggie as well...
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pa - funny - good lesson .. don't go ...
pa - funny - good lesson .. don't go on crap shows like 60 mins.. they gotta make a story out of something... so if what you say is not sensational enough.. they will edit around it.. by cut and pasting your sentances.. they can more or less could have edited that piece to prove any piece of 'market research'
i was far more concerned about that ...
i was far more concerned about that Hydrogen powered car thing, and the general Motors PR guy, who was rather good at dodging tricky questions
experts at dodging tricky sticky ...
experts at dodging tricky sticky questions end up owning the company / running the country
in 'fog of war' macnamara (ex us sec. ...
in 'fog of war' macnamara (ex us sec. of defence) said he never answer sticky questions - instead, he'd ignore their questions and give answers to his own questions =) turn the interview around into press conference
i hate when people do that . .. .most ...
i hate when people do that . .. .most politicians do it all the time
that try hard skater chick gave me the ...
that try hard skater chick gave me the wind up... i was wanting her to shut up and let the others talk... and if i go anywhere near a nightclub like the one on that show... please kill me...
i quite liked the guy who was in tv mind (might be biased)..
i was thinking the whole time.. wow - these guys are totally not like anyone i know.. what fuckers.. but then i worked it out - they were all aucklanders... imagine a wellington version... or a dunedin one... very different...
yes - this doco made me mad
I watched that item thinking I can't ...
I watched that item thinking I can't even relate to those 4 people - anyway, you can't trust people who don't know how to stack vinyl properly.
I couldnt relate to any of them either. ...
I couldnt relate to any of them either. They symbolised the person that i dont wish to become.
I also dont believe that generation next is extremely "camera savvy" either, the social groups at this bar were all out for attention. If a camera turned up in a bar I was dancing at I would probably leave.
//"They symbolised the person that i ...
//"They symbolised the person that i dont wish to become."
that pretty much sums it up for everyone here i think... They were an ad man's wet dream, an over stylised enditement that showed everything wrong with mainstream NZ culture. And I don't give a shit what anyone else here thinks, they were mainstream.
I had to turn the tv off when one of them blurted out some empty catchphrase when they were talking about clevage like "go the chicks!" then immediately realised afterwards just how stupid that sounded.
I went to Uni with one of the guys and ...
I went to Uni with one of the guys and I think one of the girls was a couple of years behind us, so I'm going ot have to say that I really really really hope that they were taking the piss.
Then again, he did use to like Limp Bizkit before he became a house bunny, so perhaps they don't have a sense of irony...
I got quite enraged watching it. I have ...
I got quite enraged watching it. I have assesed that at least 90% of members of the age group in question are clueless idiots.
i know this might sound partially off ...
i know this might sound partially off topic but its a related post so why not??
i just dont get it.....
just what the fuck is wrong with my generation?? do they have to go as far to the extent as where they want to expose themselves - naked or not - on national television?? come on us 20-somethings can do better than that, its giving our age group a bad name, cant us 20-somethings be like our parents genewration ie. protest, trip, listen to heavy as music, grow our hair long etc, etc.....sweet heyzoos, i wish i was born in 1950 and not 1980.
yeah - but nothing is black and ...
yeah - but nothing is black and white... are generation are not robots.. we are all different... infact we're all so different and unique that i shouldnt even say 'we'
Yeah, jeez LSam why don't you take ...
Yeah, jeez LSam why don't you take that concept even further.... go back to feudal times. Course you might get burned at the stake looking like you do, but.... there won't be any preps around.
// there won't be any preps ...
// there won't be any preps around.
sure there will .. they were called 'the aristocracy'
the aristcracy?wtf?...
the aristcracy?wtf?
ar·is·toc·ra·cy n. pl. ...
ar·is·toc·ra·cy
n. pl. ar·is·toc·ra·cies
A hereditary ruling class; nobility.
Government by a ruling class.
A state or country having this form of government.
Government by the citizens deemed to be best qualified to lead.
A state having such a government.
A group or class considered superior to others.
//go back to feudal times Yes ...
//go back to feudal times
Yes let's! Then I can hold court on the Isle of Sky.
younger generation see AristoCATS...
younger generation see AristoCATS
whatevvvvver...
whatevvvvver
yeah about that - "whatever" belongs to ...
yeah about that - "whatever" belongs to the gen x slacker thank you very much. That and the attitude of "fuck you and your marketing/labels/ definitions".. that's why it's "x" for chrissakes. We rejected all labels and burst the utopian bubble that the older genreation was feeding us - finish school, get a degree and you'll get a great job.
winner of an idea though - assemble a non-representative sample of 'up for it' kids and ask them 'probing lifestyle' questions for an hour so at the end of it we get a one word summation of an entire generation's pysche.
//cant us 20-somethings be like our ...
//cant us 20-somethings be like our parents genewration//
But your parents generation are the ones to blame for the state of the present generation ... that is if you accept that people are the result of their up-bringing to a certain extent. So basically your parents generation fucked up by creating these little monsters. Now I am not specifically taking a dig at your parents LS; they have clearly done a fine job of bringing you up.
As to the actual show in question I must admit I didn't watch it ... however if it was like other shows of its ilk I suspect that the programme makers started out with a particular thesis and then sought out the evidence to support it. It is highly unlikely that the particpants chose were truly representative of their generation ... I assume they had half a dozen or so participants; what was the demographic spread? Male/female, Pakeha/Maori/Pacific Islander/Asian/South African/European/North American, straight/gay/confused, rich/poor, employed/unemployed/student ... just thinking about my own boys circle of friends.
//We rejected all labels and burst the ...
//We rejected all labels and burst the utopian bubble that the older genreation was feeding us - finish school, get a degree and you'll get a great job.
ya reckon?
hands up if right NOW if you're ...
hands up if right NOW if you're wearing clothing with merchandising / logos visible on it
hands up if right NOW if you're wearing clothing with "subversive" messages on it
generation "whatever" is a walking advertisement OR trite punchline
hands up if you don't own any clothing with logos / messages etc on them
// hands up if you don't own any ...
// hands up if you don't own any clothing with logos / messages etc on them
me.
My shirt has a Farmers "own brand" tag ...
My shirt has a Farmers "own brand" tag in a subtle location... but it is visible if you look hard enough.
Me. My shoes used to have their ...
Me.
My shoes used to have their name on the back of them, but that's scuffed off and also covered by the bottoms of my (generic) jeans.
Um that was me sticking my hand up for ...
Um that was me sticking my hand up for not owning anything with visible labels or slogans, except that I thought it was just "wearing", but since it's owning, I will admit to having another pair of shoes with their name on it, but that's pretty hard to read too.
the makers own branding tastefully ...
the makers own branding tastefully presented on their own clothes is sort of ok - but it's gotta be classily understated
whatever happened to classily understated merchandising tactics?
The clothes I own that have no labels ...
The clothes I own that have no labels or tiny obscured labels either came from glassons, or I paid more money for them than you really should pay for clothes. Which is most of my wardrobe.
... of course then there is my Nike ...
... of course then there is my Nike combo outfit, with swooshes and headbands aplenty... You have to be careful to not add any other sports branded clothing to your ensemble if you are being a Nike guy for the day. Reeboks and Nikes together at the same time fucks with your personal Feng Shui.
i won't go out of my way to get label ...
i won't go out of my way to get label stuff but i give it the same chance as everything else, if i like the shirt, but it has a tiny logo, i still like the shirt ... i mean sheesh, if it really bothers you then it still has some kind of power over you right?
noizyboy I thought you had a shirt with ...
noizyboy I thought you had a shirt with noizyboy on it?
// being staunchly anti-logos is just ...
// being staunchly anti-logos is just as trite as being a logo hound.
i don't see being "staunchly anti-logos" as trite... reclaim responsibility for the impression you make on others... branding is information pollution... turn the tv off / step outside the merchandising circus = have a life... VS. suck the devils cock / whore yourself to ideas dreamt up by advertising bozos
// it's still all about making some sort of statement.
WHOS STATEMENT?
if you don't have your own statement to make then align yourself with someone elses? - ZIEK HEIL!
// Some brands have got soul. some logos have got soul.
no brands nor logos have got soul - people have soul / animals (i reckon) have soul... but if you feel a warm conjuring of soul when you read the name 'coca-cola' (for instance) then UH-OHHH... every attempt an advertising campaign makes to inject soul into their brand just adds to the smoke screen clouding their earth-resource raping / sweatshop child-labour/ 3rd world exploiting / capitalist opportunism...
// wear whatever the hell you want to.
and forget the fact that YOU are part of a system of re-iteration which is leading / being lead deeper and deeper into surface-conscious materialism...
if we are all walking billboards - we should be wearing our heart on our sleeves - if we can find it under all the fridge magnets
// hands up if you don't own any ...
// hands up if you don't own any clothing with logos / messages
doesn't really count as either of those, does it?
not particularly corporate, at the very least.
when I release my custom noizyboy brand ...
when I release my custom noizyboy brand of hoodies with baseball caps sewn into the hood, then there might be an argument...
being staunchly anti-logos is just as ...
being staunchly anti-logos is just as trite as being a logo hound. it's still all about making some sort of statement. Some brands have got soul. some logos have got soul. wear whatever the hell you want to.
fuck dat- ahole- im gonna wear what YOU ...
fuck dat- ahole- im gonna wear what YOU want me to wear
and just this afternoon I wondered ...
and just this afternoon I wondered aloud where Lena had gotten to. now look I gotta go delete you
I do, just got them ...
I do, just got them today:
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those dudes didn't even have their ...
those dudes didn't even have their vinyl properly stacked..
..gah yeah it was an awful piece. shoddy sensationalising over so little actual content..
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//shoddy sensationalising over so ...
//shoddy sensationalising over so little actual content..
sums up all there is all around u every frikkin where u look
a big smoke-screen of hype and useless information s'posed to fire my imagination
it was fucken pants. every generation ...
it was fucken pants. every generation comes of age and achieves self awareness and postions itself in opposition to what came before. then, we grow up and realise that basically we are all the same. its ridiculous.
strange how those chosen for the doco seemed to be swept up in some consumerist whirlwind whilst CLAIMING to be insusceptible to the tools of marketing.
people like stuff. my dad who is 73 can not only programme a video, he runs a Mac users club and teaches people half his age how to navigate the internet!
everyone should read "All families are Psychotic" by Douglas Coupland. strangely, he wrote Generation X back in the day. this book treats every person as valid and individual, the antithesis of some saddo marketing research.
What happened to Generation ME?...
What happened to Generation ME?
From public address:...
From public address:
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thanks heather - great overview of the ...
thanks heather - great overview of the topic above