450,000 is alooot of money for nz on air to b giving out to one show, that money could have been spent on something....i hate to bring my opinion to this but...better!!
yea, what a fkn waste of tax payer money. Over the years the whole population of nz has watched as other idol/search for a popstar/lets form a shitty pop-band programmes from various countries around the world have crashed and burned. then once the programmes end, we all sit back and laugh as we watch the victorious idol sink back into that great hole of nothingness it/he/she crawled out of in the beginning, only to be reserected as the subject of some poor joke about failed or one-minute idols. wat was nz on air thinking??? this idol crap is bringing shame upon new zealand god damnit!!! $450,000 is a fuckload of money to spend for some idiot to become famous for a couple of months. wata waste.
It depends on the terms of the agreement. It has been said that the sum was to be paid back - the terms of this repayment are all important. Certainly the attitude of the head dude seems off!
yet again it comes back down to the linked topic.....
but yeh lets all start a revolt, WHY SHOULD US FUCKEN TAXPAYER HAVE TO PAY FOR SOME SPOILT RICH KID TO GET HIS OR HER UGLY MUG ON TV oh yeh i almost forgot, daddy chipped in as well. i smell a rat here.
lets presume your earning around 39k a year before tax .. which is close to the average wage... well - by my caculations.. you are paying 23 cents a year towards nz idol... and $351 towards defense
well thats sweet samflux, but could that 23 cents have been put towards other performers, who have infinitely less media exposure, but just as much talent, rather than a dull show whose sole purpose is to make a huge profit for it's creators. THIS REALLY FUCKS ME OFF. This better be a loan.
not to mention daddy probably worked hard for many years for his money, rather than sit around smoking pot complaining about people that earn money his whole life
When I say dull, I meant they could have paced the show better, rather than drawing it out for so damn long. maybe it's just having one presenter instead of two like the aussie one. Im all for diversity, I just don't find the idol format particuarly creative.
WHAT THE FUCK? It's bad enough the government taking a cut of my money to pay teachers to tell me what to do, but for this fucking show? I can't believe they're spending taxpayer's money on such a fucking crap show, they could spend it on castrating dangerous criminals, or put it into important stuff that this little country actually NEEDS. All of you, get as many people to not watch NZ Idol, TV3, put a good show on at the same time as NZ Idol so that the Idol viewers don't watch it, someone disrupt the auditions, we need anarchy to stop this bullshit!
how about a bit of that perspective thing again, they just put a couple hundred million bucks into the new auckland hospital, the difference between and $250,000,000 and $250,450,000 isn't a hell of a lot when you look at it like that is it? so logically that would suggest that ... what? come on i can't hear you, you should know this one ... come on, what?
it would suggest that they already *are* putting money into Health, Education, Defence and Law & Order ... of course if we only put money into those things we'd all be commies, so it stands to reason that they'd want to fund a bit of entertainment as well, you know, liven things up a bit, stop us from becoming a depressing coalmining country. after all, that's why NZ on air exists.
//lets presume your earning around 39k a year before tax .. which is close to the average wage... well - by my caculations.. you are paying 23 cents a year towards nz idol... and $351 towards defense
interesting figures there samflux, but every penny counts for essential services - the 23 cents spent on some pointless reality show can be divied up into Health, Education, Defence and Law and Order. sure an extra 5 and 3/4 cents per mentioned service may not be enough but as the man says "every penny counts". and "dont let the money go to waste" especially if its for a reality Show.
" NZ On Air gave the money to NZ IDOL on the proviso that it would get all or some of the money back if the show was a commercial success."
"She (Jo tyndall) would not outline the basis for NZOA's return. "The arrangements are specific to NZ Idol and I'm not going to talk about the details, because they are commercially sensitive,"
how do you know his 23 cents are safe? The details of our 23 cent 'loan' are "commercially sensitive' and NZ Idol aren't releasing any figures. i think highlighting an apparent lack of disclosure over the use or terms of this public funding may have been the point of the original article
I'm not a fan of the show....there i said it....im glad to finally get that off that my chest. :P
So ok, Im thinkin ripple effects here. NZ IDOL cant mass produce and manufacture then distribute the final product, ie the winning bozo's album. They get other kiwi businesses to do it which is creating business, helps the economy blah blah blah you can see where im goin with this. And yeah theres added social benefits as the dude before me said.
I dont see the point in the whol NZ idol thing, waste of money if you ask me,
people need to realise that we arent an offspring of America and we dont need to remake all of their crappy TV shows
LOL i wasnt expecting 89%!!! hehehe i know many people watch nz idol but 89% bahahahahaha anyways most TV station people are fucktards. look at daryl robinson from tv3 or woteva his name is.
That amount is shit though when you think of it on a larger scale..in fact they should have given more..
i mean maybe it was a load of shit but hey it was for a lot of newzealanders out there who like to watch this sort of shit..Its to the customer of the lands benefit & if you didn't like it well you know what to do..not watch it or support it..and as usual keep moaning!
It's fucken outrageous... I'd like to bring up another point right now. If they got all this money from the government, what on earth did they do with the untold shitloads they must have made from the millions of chumps who paid 99c to vote, in some cases numerous times, for about 13 fucken weeks? Not to mention the excess craploads they're going to make from record and single sales? They'd better pay it back, cos' I'm certain they're rubbing their greasy little fingers together with gay abandon, at the absurd amounts of money they're making.
Couldnt agree more, in effect they spent $450,000 on a single artist and whilst he made be talented it is a huge shame that the aforementioned 90 bands who have proboly been working harder for longer will recive crap all.
Good fucking point, bands with talent wouldn't even need $5 grand, it just shows that a little bit goes a long way. Someone should send a letter to them and tell them that this is way more worth the while.
Besides, NZ on Air's funding for NZ Idol wasn't from its music funding but from its television funding. i.e. the funding went to the production of the TV series, not any recording or music videos.
But you have to remember that NZ idol is essentially a childrens show, like What Now. Ben Lummis is product marketed at pre-teen girls, just like the Olsen Twins and Supre. You didn't watch that movie did the Olsen Twins made.... did you? or shop at Supre..... did you? Debate is fine, and I would prefer my 23 cents was spent else where, but bad loans are given out by the government all the time.
Jeez....the more i read of this particular post the more i realize what a bunch of bloody sad souls you are.....the only reason nz idol hasnt exactly taken off like american idol has is because you are all too busy taking the piss out of it! If you all keep critizing it who the hell is guna want to go for it? The next one is coming up now and who would want to stand on that stage after reading this bullshit. Your alltoo worried about ur money! ITS CRAP! money means nothing, music is everything. Music for some people means something, whether that is standing on nz idol stage or singing to themselves in the shower. Where the hell is the good spirit in this country?
thats why we (some of us) diss the show. Its about money, not music. I think even the fans on these forums of the show will realise that.
I don't give a fuck that this show exists. It doens't get in my way, why do i care. But its about money dude. simple as that. nothing else. Its so some celebs can raise their profile and for a label to make a quick buck at the expense of some averagely talented singer.
I'm tempted to stage a protest when the NZ Idol auditions come to town, anybody else keen? The money they refuse to pay back could've funded 90 videos! Cunts!
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450,000 is alooot of money for nz on ...
450,000 is alooot of money for nz on air to b giving out to one show, that money could have been spent on something....i hate to bring my opinion to this but...better!!
yea, what a fkn waste of tax payer ...
yea, what a fkn waste of tax payer money. Over the years the whole population of nz has watched as other idol/search for a popstar/lets form a shitty pop-band programmes from various countries around the world have crashed and burned. then once the programmes end, we all sit back and laugh as we watch the victorious idol sink back into that great hole of nothingness it/he/she crawled out of in the beginning, only to be reserected as the subject of some poor joke about failed or one-minute idols. wat was nz on air thinking??? this idol crap is bringing shame upon new zealand god damnit!!! $450,000 is a fuckload of money to spend for some idiot to become famous for a couple of months. wata waste.
It depends on the terms of the ...
It depends on the terms of the agreement. It has been said that the sum was to be paid back - the terms of this repayment are all important. Certainly the attitude of the head dude seems off!
yet again it comes back down to the ...
yet again it comes back down to the linked topic.....
but yeh lets all start a revolt, WHY SHOULD US FUCKEN TAXPAYER HAVE TO PAY FOR SOME SPOILT RICH KID TO GET HIS OR HER UGLY MUG ON TV oh yeh i almost forgot, daddy chipped in as well. i smell a rat here.
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well lets put things in perspective ...
well lets put things in perspective shall we...
lets presume your earning around 39k a year before tax .. which is close to the average wage... well - by my caculations.. you are paying 23 cents a year towards nz idol... and $351 towards defense
well thats sweet samflux, but could ...
well thats sweet samflux, but could that 23 cents have been put towards other performers, who have infinitely less media exposure, but just as much talent, rather than a dull show whose sole purpose is to make a huge profit for it's creators. THIS REALLY FUCKS ME OFF. This better be a loan.
not to mention daddy probably worked ...
not to mention daddy probably worked hard for many years for his money, rather than sit around smoking pot complaining about people that earn money his whole life
right on. yea, this better fkn be a ...
right on. yea, this better fkn be a loan.
ha - yeah im glad you sensed my hint of ...
ha - yeah im glad you sensed my hint of irony grimmybug
Rusty one: maybe you find it dull, but ...
Rusty one: maybe you find it dull, but there are hundreds of thousands of people who don't. It's this strange concept called "diversity".
ha - yeah Joanna is an idol fiend - for ...
ha - yeah Joanna is an idol fiend - for example
When I say dull, I meant they could ...
When I say dull, I meant they could have paced the show better, rather than drawing it out for so damn long. maybe it's just having one presenter instead of two like the aussie one. Im all for diversity, I just don't find the idol format particuarly creative.
i hate the damm show - doesnt mean they ...
i hate the damm show - doesnt mean they shouldn't make it... or nzonair shouldn't lend them a bit of money...
WHAT THE FUCK? It's bad enough the ...
WHAT THE FUCK? It's bad enough the government taking a cut of my money to pay teachers to tell me what to do, but for this fucking show? I can't believe they're spending taxpayer's money on such a fucking crap show, they could spend it on castrating dangerous criminals, or put it into important stuff that this little country actually NEEDS. All of you, get as many people to not watch NZ Idol, TV3, put a good show on at the same time as NZ Idol so that the Idol viewers don't watch it, someone disrupt the auditions, we need anarchy to stop this bullshit!
how about a bit of that perspective ...
how about a bit of that perspective thing again, they just put a couple hundred million bucks into the new auckland hospital, the difference between and $250,000,000 and $250,450,000 isn't a hell of a lot when you look at it like that is it? so logically that would suggest that ... what? come on i can't hear you, you should know this one ... come on, what?
it would suggest that they already *are* putting money into Health, Education, Defence and Law & Order ... of course if we only put money into those things we'd all be commies, so it stands to reason that they'd want to fund a bit of entertainment as well, you know, liven things up a bit, stop us from becoming a depressing coalmining country. after all, that's why NZ on air exists.
//lets presume your earning around 39k ...
//lets presume your earning around 39k a year before tax .. which is close to the average wage... well - by my caculations.. you are paying 23 cents a year towards nz idol... and $351 towards defense
interesting figures there samflux, but every penny counts for essential services - the 23 cents spent on some pointless reality show can be divied up into Health, Education, Defence and Law and Order. sure an extra 5 and 3/4 cents per mentioned service may not be enough but as the man says "every penny counts". and "dont let the money go to waste" especially if its for a reality Show.
//or nzonair shouldn't lend them a bit ...
//or nzonair shouldn't lend them a bit of money...
lend
does this mean they pay it back????
btw notice that top of the pops is getting NZOA funding as well?
exactly, LEND. I don't care at all if ...
exactly, LEND. I don't care at all if it's a loan, paid back within a certain time. GIVING them the money would really get to me though.
well just chill out then rusty... ...
well just chill out then rusty... becuase it is a loan... so you can sleep soundly tonight.. your 23 cents is safe
" NZ On Air gave the money to NZ IDOL ...
" NZ On Air gave the money to NZ IDOL on the proviso that it would get all or some of the money back if the show was a commercial success."
"She (Jo tyndall) would not outline the basis for NZOA's return. "The arrangements are specific to NZ Idol and I'm not going to talk about the details, because they are commercially sensitive,"
how do you know his 23 cents are safe? The details of our 23 cent 'loan' are "commercially sensitive' and NZ Idol aren't releasing any figures. i think highlighting an apparent lack of disclosure over the use or terms of this public funding may have been the point of the original article
Sweet. thats all I care about. as long ...
Sweet. thats all I care about. as long as my 23 cents sees the light of day some place else... Im in a real shit mood today...
I'm not a fan of the show....there i ...
I'm not a fan of the show....there i said it....im glad to finally get that off that my chest. :P
So ok, Im thinkin ripple effects here. NZ IDOL cant mass produce and manufacture then distribute the final product, ie the winning bozo's album. They get other kiwi businesses to do it which is creating business, helps the economy blah blah blah you can see where im goin with this. And yeah theres added social benefits as the dude before me said.
*Yawn*
NO, Put it towards a decent show, Phuck ...
NO, Put it towards a decent show, Phuck reality TV
keep it real zephyr bro....
keep it real zephyr bro.
I dont see the point in the whol NZ ...
I dont see the point in the whol NZ idol thing, waste of money if you ask me,
people need to realise that we arent an offspring of America and we dont need to remake all of their crappy TV shows
LOL i wasnt expecting 89%!!! hehehe i ...
LOL i wasnt expecting 89%!!! hehehe i know many people watch nz idol but 89% bahahahahaha anyways most TV station people are fucktards. look at daryl robinson from tv3 or woteva his name is.
That amount is shit though when you ...
That amount is shit though when you think of it on a larger scale..in fact they should have given more..
i mean maybe it was a load of shit but hey it was for a lot of newzealanders out there who like to watch this sort of shit..Its to the customer of the lands benefit & if you didn't like it well you know what to do..not watch it or support it..and as usual keep moaning!
It's fucken outrageous... I'd like to ...
It's fucken outrageous... I'd like to bring up another point right now. If they got all this money from the government, what on earth did they do with the untold shitloads they must have made from the millions of chumps who paid 99c to vote, in some cases numerous times, for about 13 fucken weeks? Not to mention the excess craploads they're going to make from record and single sales? They'd better pay it back, cos' I'm certain they're rubbing their greasy little fingers together with gay abandon, at the absurd amounts of money they're making.
Yours please...
They could have given 90 struggling ...
They could have given 90 struggling bands $5000 grants to help fund recordings.
that was my exact first thought when I ...
that was my exact first thought when I heard this too.
POINT MADE....
POINT MADE.
yea an most of those 90 bands could hav ...
yea an most of those 90 bands could hav probly sung an performed way btter than ben
Couldnt agree more, in effect they ...
Couldnt agree more, in effect they spent $450,000 on a single artist and whilst he made be talented it is a huge shame that the aforementioned 90 bands who have proboly been working harder for longer will recive crap all.
Not so wise
Good fucking point, bands with talent ...
Good fucking point, bands with talent wouldn't even need $5 grand, it just shows that a little bit goes a long way. Someone should send a letter to them and tell them that this is way more worth the while.
3 YEARS LATER... WHOS BEN WHATEVER........
3 YEARS LATER...
WHOS BEN WHATEVER.....
wat the phuk, isnt 'IDOL' a ...
wat the phuk, isnt 'IDOL' a profitable American franchise,
u suk NZ on Air
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no!!!! why!!!! waste of money!!...
no!!!! why!!!! waste of money!!
yeah. WTF?!...
yeah. WTF?!
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-1 old Besides, NZ on Air's funding ...
-1 old
Besides, NZ on Air's funding for NZ Idol wasn't from its music funding but from its television funding. i.e. the funding went to the production of the TV series, not any recording or music videos.
But you have to remember that NZ idol ...
But you have to remember that NZ idol is essentially a childrens show, like What Now. Ben Lummis is product marketed at pre-teen girls, just like the Olsen Twins and Supre. You didn't watch that movie did the Olsen Twins made.... did you? or shop at Supre..... did you? Debate is fine, and I would prefer my 23 cents was spent else where, but bad loans are given out by the government all the time.
Jeez....the more i read of this ...
Jeez....the more i read of this particular post the more i realize what a bunch of bloody sad souls you are.....the only reason nz idol hasnt exactly taken off like american idol has is because you are all too busy taking the piss out of it! If you all keep critizing it who the hell is guna want to go for it? The next one is coming up now and who would want to stand on that stage after reading this bullshit. Your alltoo worried about ur money! ITS CRAP! money means nothing, music is everything. Music for some people means something, whether that is standing on nz idol stage or singing to themselves in the shower. Where the hell is the good spirit in this country?
// money means nothing, music is ...
// money means nothing, music is everything.
thats why we (some of us) diss the show. Its about money, not music. I think even the fans on these forums of the show will realise that.
I don't give a fuck that this show exists. It doens't get in my way, why do i care. But its about money dude. simple as that. nothing else. Its so some celebs can raise their profile and for a label to make a quick buck at the expense of some averagely talented singer.
//Music for some people means ...
//Music for some people means something
Errrrrr ........hahaha
It would have made more sense to give ...
It would have made more sense to give the money to VETO (The greatest band in the Universe) or make an epic porno movie about the life of Noddy.
[ http://www.veto.co.nz ]
That porno would be hilarious, although ...
That porno would be hilarious, although it would have to screen after 8.30pm.
EGAD! I THOUGHT THERE WASN'T GONNA BE ...
EGAD! I THOUGHT THERE WASN'T GONNA BE ANYMORE!!!
No!
No!
No!
I'm tempted to stage a protest when ...
I'm tempted to stage a protest when the NZ Idol auditions come to town, anybody else keen? The money they refuse to pay back could've funded 90 videos! Cunts!
//The money they refuse to pay back ...
//The money they refuse to pay back could've funded 90 videos!
No it couldn't have. But they could have made another series of Melody Rules with that money.
Or spent it on booze......
Or spent it on booze...
booze and hookers...
booze and hookers