I've heard by all accounts the scene there is pretty quiet at the moment... someone was saying theres a really strong noise rock ala. Dead c etc... scene at the moment though.
not noise, i don't reckon - there's a few good drone bands (Futurians etc), but i haven't seen a noise band around these parts for a while. yeah, art-drone. which i guess is kinda noise with a heap of melody - yeah there are about 4 or so bands around like that ...
there's a thriving punk scene too - not crap nouveau-glossy-technically-proficient punk either. but old "shout out of tune" punk. and decent hard rock like the Blistering Tongues.
the scene aint quiet - there's a heap going on in a lot of genres. i don't think the scene will ever be quiet - too many long term musos spending their lives jamming with each other.
it is pretty quiet in terms of venues and exposure though. quiet not meaning that there aren't talented people around but quiet as in most of them are doing their thing quietly and only a small niche market ever hears about it. which can be both a good thing and a bad thing...
some venues are desperate for acts at the moment - the crown for instance - i imagine chicks is keen to get the ball rolling out there - and these are venues that don't rely on the fluctuating seasonal student population - these are venues that play to people who live in the city and usually live here because of the music.
(we had such an awesome gig with the Remains (Bob Scott's pseudo-covers band) at Chicks just before Xmas. a real decent crowd too. was most enjoyable.)
there are some fantstic bands struggling to get the gigs at the moment.....flak, ritalin, sifty chris and the glad eyes, the ken nagas extreme band (or just nagas) gestalt switch. all of them quite capable of doing bigger things.
venues are the issue...we have ummm three. the crown, arc, and refuel.
amates of mine band played at the captian cook pub and ahd a wicked set with people lining up to get in because it was live music for a change....at the end of the gig the manager said that the we looking for something more like dave dobbyn (GRRRRRR)
hey now, ritalin are good. Well, they're ok. I think they'll be going up to wellington again soon. They're one of those bands who'll be touring for the rest of there existence.
This is a good idea for a column mike. Thumbs up buddy
i really dunno. stu (ritalin drummer) lives across from ashley (gestalt switch). At least i think he does, so it wouldn't be that hard to find out. And yeah, i hear they're going to aus as well.
true. i think the whole industry has changed since then though. i mean the sneaky feelings got signed after playing a gig to one audience member in christchurch (luckily that audience member was rodger shepherd). and now there's fifty million new zealand bands who can actually string a few chords together so it's a whole different kettle of fish. in terms of current (or recent) artists with flying nun, they aren't going too badly - i.e. the d4, pan am, betchadupa, and recent signing the mint chicks. does that stack up against the clean, the verlaines, the chills, the 3ds, sneaky feelings, and then later straightjacket fits? no. not really. but still not a bad line up at present, and it has to peak at certain times. but at least you know the current flying nun bands. compare that with which dunedin bands are known outside of dunedin now... and that's not a criticism of dunedin bands... because i play in one. well perhaps just a slight criticism, because it's not that hard to get out of dunedin and play. it should be done more often. but really it's just an observation of the way things are at the moment.
interesting you start with the Sneaky Feelings example - shows that even in the past, Flying Nun had duds on their catalogue. not that they were bad-bad, they were just not that good.
though i was forced to rethink that when Matthew Bannister played up a storm with the Muttonbirds when they toured a few years ago. but then i went back and listened to the Sneakys ... couldn't understand why they got signed and bands like the Puddle got overlooked.
// interesting you start with the Sneaky Feelings example - shows that even in the past, Flying Nun had duds on their catalogue. not that they were bad-bad, they were just not that good.
Totally disagree, I love the Sneakies, 'Sentimental Education' & 'Send You' are classic albums, andI once had a very nice dream that the Sneakies reformed and I went to their gig.
Matthew Bannister, if you're out there and want a clip for the Weather - who ya gonna call?
//and now there's fifty million new zealand bands who can actually string a few chords together so it's a whole different kettle of fish//
yeah but the songwriting has gone downhill
Sneaky Feelings were a great band, love the album "Waiting for Touchdown", amazing songs, just not of the art-noise vartiey some people associate with the label.
I think that people tend to ignore the effect of the rock school on the music scene in dunedin, the rock school seems to produce a slew of uninspiring bands who treat music as a commodity, don't get me wrong theres still heaps of great, and i mean fucken excellent bands in dunedin but they are generally ignored by the public and never as prominint as the super mega crappy bands that rock school mass produces. Dunedin suffers greatly from the viking syndrome, drunken rich kids who crash come to duneidn to burn couchs and fuck shit up with no regard to culture, they might goto drum n bass gigs. But non of that really matters, everyone who sticks it out understands that music is and should be for the people who really appreciate it. No poser cunts. The dunedin music scene kicks ass at the moment, just avoid rock school bands and you should be sweet.
i don't know which bands you consider 'rock school' bands. there are a number of people who study contemporary music at otago who also play in bands that gig regularly (myself included). do you mean these bands? i try to judge bands on their abilities, not where they studied.
2drunk2fuk: what do you think of bands who have members from said 'rock school' (which it ain't, it's the dept. of music at otago uni), but aren't rock school bands. Cos there is a lot of them about at the moment: Alpha Cast, Nagas, Sifty Chris And The Gladeyes, Gestalt Switch, El Scholng, ShatterFace, and from what i've heard and read, many people consider these bands, plus a few others, to be Dunedin's 'top' current bands
Onanon are an exception: (i think) no one from onanon attends the contemproray music course at otago uni, and maybe you can here it, maybe you can't. Does it matter?
No.
Just as long as the music is good. Right?
nope, us in Onanon have never been taught anything.
(ps gestalter, try the 'Reply to this post' link - it help people follow the argument if replies follow on from each other directly, instead of jumping ahead via 'Add Comment')
there should be an option in the poll for "all the Dunedin musicians I know aren't in Dunedin anymore." And seeing as we're Nun-bashing as well, now that I think about it, the notable Nun musicians aren't with the Nun anymore either. Except Bob Scott, who's stayed with both.
i know this dude who used to get lessons off bob. This dude told me bob has an entire room in his house devoted to tapes with unreleased songs on them. He's written over a 1000, so they say.
I think rip it up said there was enuff for 9 albums.
that's nothing. i hear Martin Phillips has even more.
it's good hearing Bob's stuff on ads and soundtracks though. but then again, i like Bob's stuff. Harmonic Delux was great. i saw a good student film about the development in the Catlins, how things are changing, some good Bob music was used for that.
Just want to say that their are good bands around Dunedin from Rock to Pacific reggae beats. Music down here is still buzzing but agree that bands stay low and keep to themselves. If you are into reggae island style there has been a band around since early 90's. They have had a few name changes over the years but today they are known as "KOILE". The mixture of Tokeluan, Cook Island and Maori talent within this band is awesome. Recently they played supporting act for Rhombus and Katchafire at the Otago University for Orientation week. If Dunedin has not heard of them before they certainly have now. The Band rocked!!! There guitarist is the best I have heard in a long time playing pacific reggae in the first part of there set, then playing heavy metal solo to sign off. Look out for them!!!
Hi there
I am a songwriter based in Birmingham, England. I'm coming over to NZ in March/April (staying in Dunedin) and would love to get a gig while I'm there. Any suggestions as to where to play an acoustic set? I know about the Arc and am planning to give them a call. Are there any other venues I should try?
Also, I may not be bringing my own guitar (left handed), so if anyone knows of any hiring places in Dunedin I'd be grateful.
Thanks
David
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I've heard by all accounts the scene ...
I've heard by all accounts the scene there is pretty quiet at the moment... someone was saying theres a really strong noise rock ala. Dead c etc... scene at the moment though.
not noise, i don't reckon - there's a ...
not noise, i don't reckon - there's a few good drone bands (Futurians etc), but i haven't seen a noise band around these parts for a while. yeah, art-drone. which i guess is kinda noise with a heap of melody - yeah there are about 4 or so bands around like that ...
there's a thriving punk scene too - not crap nouveau-glossy-technically-proficient punk either. but old "shout out of tune" punk. and decent hard rock like the Blistering Tongues.
the scene aint quiet - there's a heap going on in a lot of genres. i don't think the scene will ever be quiet - too many long term musos spending their lives jamming with each other.
it is pretty quiet in terms of venues ...
it is pretty quiet in terms of venues and exposure though. quiet not meaning that there aren't talented people around but quiet as in most of them are doing their thing quietly and only a small niche market ever hears about it. which can be both a good thing and a bad thing...
some venues are desperate for acts at ...
some venues are desperate for acts at the moment - the crown for instance - i imagine chicks is keen to get the ball rolling out there - and these are venues that don't rely on the fluctuating seasonal student population - these are venues that play to people who live in the city and usually live here because of the music.
(we had such an awesome gig with the Remains (Bob Scott's pseudo-covers band) at Chicks just before Xmas. a real decent crowd too. was most enjoyable.)
where's chicks?...
where's chicks?
Port Chalmers. otherwise known as ...
Port Chalmers. otherwise known as 'port'. i'm tempted to say it's the musical and art heart of Dunners actually ...
i wish i could have played a gig in ...
i wish i could have played a gig in port chalmers. im sure they love their bad metal there.
there are some fantstic bands ...
there are some fantstic bands struggling to get the gigs at the moment.....flak, ritalin, sifty chris and the glad eyes, the ken nagas extreme band (or just nagas) gestalt switch. all of them quite capable of doing bigger things.
venues are the issue...we have ummm three. the crown, arc, and refuel.
amates of mine band played at the captian cook pub and ahd a wicked set with people lining up to get in because it was live music for a change....at the end of the gig the manager said that the we looking for something more like dave dobbyn (GRRRRRR)
ritalin are great. i hear they're ...
ritalin are great. i hear they're coming to wellington soon though...:)
im pretty sure ritalin were the worst ...
im pretty sure ritalin were the worst band ive ever heard. have they improved in the last couple of years?
yeah they've improved heaps....
yeah they've improved heaps.
yes come to wellington. we are ...
yes come to wellington. we are judgemental mofo's here. in all the right wrong ways.
hey now, ritalin are good. Well, ...
hey now, ritalin are good. Well, they're ok. I think they'll be going up to wellington again soon. They're one of those bands who'll be touring for the rest of there existence.
This is a good idea for a column mike. Thumbs up buddy
i hear they're fully moving to ...
i hear they're fully moving to wellington! (before making their way to aussie next year)
rumours, mind.
thanks sam. might see you this ...
thanks sam. might see you this weekend. catch up over a herbal tea? or a manly beer?
i really dunno. stu (ritalin drummer) ...
i really dunno. stu (ritalin drummer) lives across from ashley (gestalt switch). At least i think he does, so it wouldn't be that hard to find out. And yeah, i hear they're going to aus as well.
....you could say the same about Flying ...
....you could say the same about Flying Nun Records...
true. i think the whole industry has ...
true. i think the whole industry has changed since then though. i mean the sneaky feelings got signed after playing a gig to one audience member in christchurch (luckily that audience member was rodger shepherd). and now there's fifty million new zealand bands who can actually string a few chords together so it's a whole different kettle of fish. in terms of current (or recent) artists with flying nun, they aren't going too badly - i.e. the d4, pan am, betchadupa, and recent signing the mint chicks. does that stack up against the clean, the verlaines, the chills, the 3ds, sneaky feelings, and then later straightjacket fits? no. not really. but still not a bad line up at present, and it has to peak at certain times. but at least you know the current flying nun bands. compare that with which dunedin bands are known outside of dunedin now... and that's not a criticism of dunedin bands... because i play in one. well perhaps just a slight criticism, because it's not that hard to get out of dunedin and play. it should be done more often. but really it's just an observation of the way things are at the moment.
interesting you start with the Sneaky ...
interesting you start with the Sneaky Feelings example - shows that even in the past, Flying Nun had duds on their catalogue. not that they were bad-bad, they were just not that good.
though i was forced to rethink that when Matthew Bannister played up a storm with the Muttonbirds when they toured a few years ago. but then i went back and listened to the Sneakys ... couldn't understand why they got signed and bands like the Puddle got overlooked.
// interesting you start with the ...
// interesting you start with the Sneaky Feelings example - shows that even in the past, Flying Nun had duds on their catalogue. not that they were bad-bad, they were just not that good.
Totally disagree, I love the Sneakies, 'Sentimental Education' & 'Send You' are classic albums, andI once had a very nice dream that the Sneakies reformed and I went to their gig.
Matthew Bannister, if you're out there and want a clip for the Weather - who ya gonna call?
[ http://www.aminofilms.com ]
apart from pines the pit song i do find ...
apart from pines the pit song i do find the sneakys pretty mediocre
//and now there's fifty million new ...
//and now there's fifty million new zealand bands who can actually string a few chords together so it's a whole different kettle of fish//
yeah but the songwriting has gone downhill
Sneaky Feelings were a great band, love the album "Waiting for Touchdown", amazing songs, just not of the art-noise vartiey some people associate with the label.
for art-noise read 99% squidgies...
for art-noise read 99% squidgies
why not a herbal beer. nah fuck it, ...
why not a herbal beer.
nah fuck it, just beer
I think that people tend to ignore the ...
I think that people tend to ignore the effect of the rock school on the music scene in dunedin, the rock school seems to produce a slew of uninspiring bands who treat music as a commodity, don't get me wrong theres still heaps of great, and i mean fucken excellent bands in dunedin but they are generally ignored by the public and never as prominint as the super mega crappy bands that rock school mass produces. Dunedin suffers greatly from the viking syndrome, drunken rich kids who crash come to duneidn to burn couchs and fuck shit up with no regard to culture, they might goto drum n bass gigs. But non of that really matters, everyone who sticks it out understands that music is and should be for the people who really appreciate it. No poser cunts. The dunedin music scene kicks ass at the moment, just avoid rock school bands and you should be sweet.
i don't know which bands you consider ...
i don't know which bands you consider 'rock school' bands. there are a number of people who study contemporary music at otago who also play in bands that gig regularly (myself included). do you mean these bands? i try to judge bands on their abilities, not where they studied.
2drunk2fuk: what do you think of bands ...
2drunk2fuk: what do you think of bands who have members from said 'rock school' (which it ain't, it's the dept. of music at otago uni), but aren't rock school bands. Cos there is a lot of them about at the moment: Alpha Cast, Nagas, Sifty Chris And The Gladeyes, Gestalt Switch, El Scholng, ShatterFace, and from what i've heard and read, many people consider these bands, plus a few others, to be Dunedin's 'top' current bands
Onanon are an exception: (i think) no one from onanon attends the contemproray music course at otago uni, and maybe you can here it, maybe you can't. Does it matter?
No.
Just as long as the music is good. Right?
nope, us in Onanon have never been ...
nope, us in Onanon have never been taught anything.
(ps gestalter, try the 'Reply to this post' link - it help people follow the argument if replies follow on from each other directly, instead of jumping ahead via 'Add Comment')
there should be an option in the poll ...
there should be an option in the poll for "all the Dunedin musicians I know aren't in Dunedin anymore." And seeing as we're Nun-bashing as well, now that I think about it, the notable Nun musicians aren't with the Nun anymore either. Except Bob Scott, who's stayed with both.
i know this dude who used to get ...
i know this dude who used to get lessons off bob. This dude told me bob has an entire room in his house devoted to tapes with unreleased songs on them. He's written over a 1000, so they say.
I think rip it up said there was enuff for 9 albums.
that's nothing. i hear Martin ...
that's nothing. i hear Martin Phillips has even more.
it's good hearing Bob's stuff on ads and soundtracks though. but then again, i like Bob's stuff. Harmonic Delux was great. i saw a good student film about the development in the Catlins, how things are changing, some good Bob music was used for that.
Just want to say that their are good ...
Just want to say that their are good bands around Dunedin from Rock to Pacific reggae beats. Music down here is still buzzing but agree that bands stay low and keep to themselves. If you are into reggae island style there has been a band around since early 90's. They have had a few name changes over the years but today they are known as "KOILE". The mixture of Tokeluan, Cook Island and Maori talent within this band is awesome. Recently they played supporting act for Rhombus and Katchafire at the Otago University for Orientation week. If Dunedin has not heard of them before they certainly have now. The Band rocked!!! There guitarist is the best I have heard in a long time playing pacific reggae in the first part of there set, then playing heavy metal solo to sign off. Look out for them!!!
Hi there I am a songwriter based in ...
Hi there
I am a songwriter based in Birmingham, England. I'm coming over to NZ in March/April (staying in Dunedin) and would love to get a gig while I'm there. Any suggestions as to where to play an acoustic set? I know about the Arc and am planning to give them a call. Are there any other venues I should try?
Also, I may not be bringing my own guitar (left handed), so if anyone knows of any hiring places in Dunedin I'd be grateful.
Thanks
David
[ http://www.davidgarside.com ]