ha, and that was bad. pop idol is WORSE than that!!!!!!!!

as a matter of interest...is win-a-wish still going??? or did they can that years and years ago when what-now was Still a saturday morning show?

some people just have no hearts.

i can understand her misery

//pop tart
MMmmm... pop tarts...

Breakfast time, I think.

everyone knows god's a women and she already won the grammy back in the nineties for 'jagged little pill'. sheesh even kevin smith knows that....

if you need to ask, you don't get it.

there's this wonderful thing called google if you really want to know.

thanks for the tip there
still don't get the joke though
alanis played god in a kevin smith movie...
milking the old gag
and this is 'lmfao' funny how?

What about the poorer people who enter Idol shows? Like, people who want to pursue a career in music, but don't have the time because have to work a couple of jobs to support their families?

Why don't their rich daddies come and bail them out?

Hey Luci!

If you watched the idol thing though, you'd see that most of them aren't actually idol material. I'm actually kinda disapointed that we didn't get someone who fit your description - at least they'd be "pop" material!

rudy huxtable has more tralent than all those wannabe idols

//rudy huxtable has more tralent than all those wannabe idols

hahah - u rock my world christianity bro....keep it real innit? (pulls out lighter, lights up and puts it in the air waving it around like at a gig)

//it wouldn't matter if it was a year long model railway convention
man, I'd so watch that shit.

nofx isn't really punk tho is it??

come to think of it. . .i'd probably be keen on the train thing as well

Well, I for one *love* da spice gurlz, and I think sporty is so f*&@'in punk ! hah lol man you're so not punk dat you don't watch antiques roadshow ! TTYL GUYZ

yeah, you ever seen like, the hard-to-the-mo'friggen-core setups ? I went to a pal's house and he has like, chip controllers with digital signals running down the lines, and like.. this thing is huge, a clone of some swiss town, the "mountains" touch the roof. I mean, compare that to say, DOOM or Crass and tell me what's more punk ?

the best thing about punkrock is like, how everyone fights over what's punk and what isn't. I love it. you could make a gameshow like "Is it punk or isn't it ?" and have like, a crust and a socal kid and a hardcore guy and an emo slug it out over a variety of household and non-household objects. That'd be so goddamn punk it'd hurt.

my grandad was into model trains - he was an official Lionel club member - tell that to your local be-mohawked chaos punk contingent and watch the amazement in their eyes.

// singing what they tell you to sing (ie: zero creative controll, and zero writing royalties to match)

Guy Sebastian, the winner of Australian Idol, has co-written a few songs on his album which I imagine would result in some royalties for him.

// i mean, it's no coincidence that after these few years every manufactured-for-tv pop act has split up except for Liberty X (the band of runners-up from UK popstars)

Oh, and except for Girls Aloud. They haven't broken up either. Pop groups formed through a TV show aren't the only groups who break up. What about all those indie bands who release one album then end up breaking up? Who do we blame for that?

// i can imagine guy sebastian in 6 months time - He will be a familiar face of course - but only just down at the Australian Welfare collection and Jobsearch agency.

Guy Sebastian was a singing teacher before he entered Australian Idol. If his career as a pop singer falls apart, he still has a real job he can go back to and probably no reason to sign on down at his local Centrelink office.

what is it with these stupid half-baked groups - release a single or 2 then 4 months later its back to WINZ. how lame can that be?

if u look at groups such as Black Sabbath, RHCP etc..these bands have been going 35 and 20 years respectively and are still bringing albums out, but the heart of the matter is that With Pop U get nowhere. With Rock 20 or even 40 years down the track you will still be recording new stuff.

//With Pop U get nowhere. With Rock 20 or even 40 years down the track you will still be

many pop acts have had huge shelflives; Michael Jackson, Beegees, Cher, Madonna, Phil Collins, Peter Gabriel....

// With Pop U get nowhere. With Rock 20 or even 40 years
// down the track you will still be recording new stuff.

Bit of an over-generalisation isn't it? Some pop artists seem to have some staying power: Elton John. Fleetwood Mac. Sting. Cliff Richard. Paul McCartney. Michael Jackson. Madonna. Prince. Neil Diamond. Duran Duran. The Bee Gees. All of whom have been releasing new material pretty regularly for at least 20, and in some cases 30 or 40 (or even 50 - arise Sir Cliff) years.

i suppose ur right noizy.....sir cliff has been going 46 years now and still bringing out albums but talk about todays "pop groups" 1 or 2 albums later then its back to collecting welfare, it prooves that music stds have dramatically lowered over the years.