Thats freaky,
I was just listening to "There is no competition by Dark Tower" & saw this poll.
It sounds american mid western inna "Oh brother where art thou" kind of way.
That's double-freaky. I was just listening to Trillion's Fresh Jams compilation that I got with some of my christmas gift vouchers. I really like it, but I don't know what Trillion would make of me saying I can hear a hella lot of british electronica in there - Massive Attack, Morcheeba, Propellerheads, a bit of Asian Dub Foundation, then there are those irish samples...
I don't really agree entirely with any of the options here - I went for 'catchy with not much content' rather than 'catchy with subtleties' just because I think the main attribute of commercial music is that it's immediately likeable across a fairly broad base of the population. It doesn't depend on self-styled musical genuises to approve it as something superior to what the general populace enjoy listening to.
Although I like to stretch myself sometimes by listening to music that challenges me - stuff that may be initially difficult to listen to, but begins to appeal to me for different reasons than usual, ultimately I don't think the genius in music has so much to do with multi-layered depth and meaning that you might find in literature and some art. While it can be interesting and enlightening to ponder over the underlying metaphors in a good book, or analyse the symbolism in a painting, I usually listen to music just because I like it.
of course the latter process applys to 98% of groups out there, out of maybe 100 groups 2 or 3 will be remembered 10, 15 years later and if lucky one will be in 40 years - judging by todays trends of "music", its not like it was 35 years ago when 7/10 bands are remembered today - but thats another story.
quite frankly christianity i can clearly remember the top bands of 1989.
PAULA ABDUL
MILLI VANILLI
NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK (now Old Balding Men with bulging beer guts collecting Dole Cheques every Tuesday morning)
WET WET WET
WOMAC AND WOMAC
TONI CHILDS
TRACY CHAPMAN
GUNS AND ROSES
POISON
DEF LEPPARD
SKID ROW
only GNR and Def Leppard still have a strong fanbase in 2004.
I adore Tracy Chapman's self-titled debut. It's as perfect as an album can be. I've never liked the rest of her stuff though - especially not "Give me one reason" - gawd, if I had a dollar for every time they play it on Classic Hits FM, I'd be a quadruple-trillionaire.
//NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK (now Old Balding Men with bulging beer guts collecting Dole Cheques every Tuesday morning)
Actually, one of them has a relatively successful acting career (Marky Mark's older brother), and Jordan has had a strong following in the religious pop scene for years. The other ones, I couldn't tell you about. But I CAN tell you they're not collecting the dole on tuesday mornings, because the US doesn't have a dole.
the young one joey mcintyre i think he is, is on boston public or was...jordan's still going strong with his music and donnie as you mentioned is a fairly well respected actor, dunno bout the other two...
are you sure those facts are correct?
i know marky mark has a successful acting career under his origininal name MARK WAHLBERG
PLANET OF THE APES, BOOGIE NIGHTS, THE ITALIAN JOB
but last I heard of DONNIE WAHLBERG he was arrested for ARSON
interesting
i checked out Donnie's career and he is an actor like velocity said
RANSOM, THE SIXTH SENSE, BAND OF BROTHERS and most recently DREAM CATCHER
it says he plays DUDDITS which is amazing because I would never have recognised him (respect)
also says he turned his younger brother Mark into Marky Mark, the bad boy rapper and underwear model,
//"He did a lot of hard work to sustain it, but I hired the directors, wrote the songs, put him in the studios, and recorded those songs with him. (Donnie Wahlberg)
'Profitable music' -I like that one too. I went with 'attractive people' in the end because it's true without exception, but $$$ is the biggest motivator in what I categorise as commercial music- amount of $$$ risked on promoting the artist relative to other artists...
I mean, you would hope for all music to be 'profitable' wouldn't you, in terms of not wanting people to lose money just because they're making music- it's just that some artists are sooooo far from making a loss when soooooo much money is spent on 'packaging' that they (record companies) just can't lose. Laughing like hyennas all the way to the bank. Ching ching.
I keep on saying it ... there are only two kinds of music ... good music and bad music. Or put another way ... music I like and music I don't. Whether it sells or not is irrelevant to the quality of the music.
To me the way the question is posed suggests that there is actually something wrong with music that is commercially successful. I don't subscribe to that theory. Though I will agree that there is plenty of bad music (see above) that sells. Just as there is plenty of good music that sells as well.
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Thats freaky, I was just listening to ...
Thats freaky,
I was just listening to "There is no competition by Dark Tower" & saw this poll.
It sounds american mid western inna "Oh brother where art thou" kind of way.
That's double-freaky. I was just ...
That's double-freaky. I was just listening to Trillion's Fresh Jams compilation that I got with some of my christmas gift vouchers. I really like it, but I don't know what Trillion would make of me saying I can hear a hella lot of british electronica in there - Massive Attack, Morcheeba, Propellerheads, a bit of Asian Dub Foundation, then there are those irish samples...
don't be silly, commercial music is ...
don't be silly, commercial music is music made with commerce in mind ... music made to sell! hence the "commercial"
// Trillion's Fresh Jams I think ...
// Trillion's Fresh Jams
I think it sounds most like Strawpeople.
Strawpeople, really?? I wouldn't have ...
Strawpeople, really?? I wouldn't have picked that at all...
I haven't heard all of it. I dunno... ...
I haven't heard all of it. I dunno... I think Morcheeba sound like Strawpeople too. Hmm.
I think Jet Jaguar sound like a funky ...
I think Jet Jaguar sound like a funky mix of Morcheeba and Dido
1 thing missing. Music made by ...
1 thing missing.
Music made by someone talented enough to make music, then performed by some good looking person witha semi decent voice(eg Britney Spears).
THAT is commercial music
I don't really agree entirely with any ...
I don't really agree entirely with any of the options here - I went for 'catchy with not much content' rather than 'catchy with subtleties' just because I think the main attribute of commercial music is that it's immediately likeable across a fairly broad base of the population. It doesn't depend on self-styled musical genuises to approve it as something superior to what the general populace enjoy listening to.
Although I like to stretch myself sometimes by listening to music that challenges me - stuff that may be initially difficult to listen to, but begins to appeal to me for different reasons than usual, ultimately I don't think the genius in music has so much to do with multi-layered depth and meaning that you might find in literature and some art. While it can be interesting and enlightening to ponder over the underlying metaphors in a good book, or analyse the symbolism in a painting, I usually listen to music just because I like it.
1)Commercial music is music that is ...
1)Commercial music is music that is saleable. 2) Commercially viable and profitable
to the powers that be. 3) Able to be made money from.
Simple as that.
damn straight...
damn straight
tru...
tru
3!- subsequently gets used in ...
3!- subsequently gets used in advertisements
commercial music is: anything that ...
commercial music is:
anything that makes it on to RTR and the NZ Top 40, here goes the process.
RECORDING-RELEASE-MTV-RTR-RADIO-TOP 40 CHARTS-IDLED-DEAD
of course the latter process applys to 98% of groups out there, out of maybe 100 groups 2 or 3 will be remembered 10, 15 years later and if lucky one will be in 40 years - judging by todays trends of "music", its not like it was 35 years ago when 7/10 bands are remembered today - but thats another story.
anyhoo commercial music aint my bag of hemp.
your bag of hemp must be strong ...
your bag of hemp must be strong dude
you only remember 3 from 10-15 years ago?!
and say you pick a year eg 1989 52 ...
and say you pick a year eg 1989
52 weeks in a year, but maybe 35 number 1 acts
with these stats you can barely remember a whole band
how much an o
quite frankly christianity i can ...
quite frankly christianity i can clearly remember the top bands of 1989.
PAULA ABDUL
MILLI VANILLI
NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK (now Old Balding Men with bulging beer guts collecting Dole Cheques every Tuesday morning)
WET WET WET
WOMAC AND WOMAC
TONI CHILDS
TRACY CHAPMAN
GUNS AND ROSES
POISON
DEF LEPPARD
SKID ROW
only GNR and Def Leppard still have a strong fanbase in 2004.
ha ha sorry dude i just don't think ...
ha ha
sorry dude i just don't think you can measure that shit
like 2 out of a hundred
but i agree shit gets more and more disposable
and interesting looking back how the ...
and interesting looking back how the biggest influences seem to have been NYKOTB
FIVE
BLUE
N'SYNC
BACKSTREET BOYS
TAKE THAT
BOYZONE
COLOUR ME BADD
EAST 17...
Sam - Tracy Chapman is still going ...
Sam - Tracy Chapman is still going strong, surprisingly within the hearts of many 19 and 20 year old males I happen to know.
I adore Tracy Chapman's self-titled ...
I adore Tracy Chapman's self-titled debut. It's as perfect as an album can be. I've never liked the rest of her stuff though - especially not "Give me one reason" - gawd, if I had a dollar for every time they play it on Classic Hits FM, I'd be a quadruple-trillionaire.
//NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK (now Old ...
//NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK (now Old Balding Men with bulging beer guts collecting Dole Cheques every Tuesday morning)
Actually, one of them has a relatively successful acting career (Marky Mark's older brother), and Jordan has had a strong following in the religious pop scene for years. The other ones, I couldn't tell you about. But I CAN tell you they're not collecting the dole on tuesday mornings, because the US doesn't have a dole.
the young one joey mcintyre i think he ...
the young one joey mcintyre i think he is, is on boston public or was...jordan's still going strong with his music and donnie as you mentioned is a fairly well respected actor, dunno bout the other two...
shit i forgot about tracey chapman....i ...
shit i forgot about tracey chapman....i dont think she hasnt brought an album out recently hasnt she??
im pretty sure that she hasnt not ...
im pretty sure that she hasnt not unreleased an nonalbum soon
Let it Rain, was released about 14 ...
Let it Rain, was released about 14 months ago
are you sure those facts are ...
are you sure those facts are correct?
i know marky mark has a successful acting career under his origininal name MARK WAHLBERG
PLANET OF THE APES, BOOGIE NIGHTS, THE ITALIAN JOB
but last I heard of DONNIE WAHLBERG he was arrested for ARSON
interesting i checked out Donnie's ...
interesting
i checked out Donnie's career and he is an actor like velocity said
RANSOM, THE SIXTH SENSE, BAND OF BROTHERS and most recently DREAM CATCHER
it says he plays DUDDITS which is amazing because I would never have recognised him (respect)
also says he turned his younger brother Mark into Marky Mark, the bad boy rapper and underwear model,
//"He did a lot of hard work to sustain it, but I hired the directors, wrote the songs, put him in the studios, and recorded those songs with him. (Donnie Wahlberg)
'Profitable music' -I like that one ...
'Profitable music' -I like that one too. I went with 'attractive people' in the end because it's true without exception, but $$$ is the biggest motivator in what I categorise as commercial music- amount of $$$ risked on promoting the artist relative to other artists...
I mean, you would hope for all music to ...
I mean, you would hope for all music to be 'profitable' wouldn't you, in terms of not wanting people to lose money just because they're making music- it's just that some artists are sooooo far from making a loss when soooooo much money is spent on 'packaging' that they (record companies) just can't lose. Laughing like hyennas all the way to the bank. Ching ching.
I keep on saying it ... there are only ...
I keep on saying it ... there are only two kinds of music ... good music and bad music. Or put another way ... music I like and music I don't. Whether it sells or not is irrelevant to the quality of the music.
To me the way the question is posed suggests that there is actually something wrong with music that is commercially successful. I don't subscribe to that theory. Though I will agree that there is plenty of bad music (see above) that sells. Just as there is plenty of good music that sells as well.
and bad music that doesn't sell, ...
and bad music that doesn't sell, causing the proformers to sulk about the evil of commercialism
SO true....
SO true.
anything on top 40 radio & tv is ...
anything on top 40 radio & tv is commercial.
Also if you're on a major label you're commercial
u forgot "artists that sell out to ...
u forgot "artists that sell out to record companies" all commercial bands do that
i believe this poll misses the point....
i believe this poll misses the point.
Tru, U should have put on the poll ...
Tru, U should have put on the poll 'SOMETHING THAT SELLS' because thats basically what it is.