//so how you doin?
pretty shitty really to be completely honest, but you know every time someone says that line it makes me crack up cos its so 'joey off friends' styles...

thats like a topic in its self.

take into acount that the cat has crippled the mouse pretty badly by then.

I could tell some stories about what my cat has dragged in, but it normally horrifies people.

My cat always liked to leave me 'presents' under, or sometimes in, my bed. Cheers Bon

big ups on the mouse catchin.

yeah shes right it is pretty cool.. the words thing is pretty interesting!

welcome paul. i agree about your website, its bloody good!!

// the regulars that aren't friendly are simply comical.

what about the regulars that are less regular at the moment and are usually nice but seem to be going through a bit of a rough sarcastic stretch and aren't that nice to everyone but really do mean well but seem to be caught in a bit of a "the whole world is made of crap so i'm gonna be jaded" spiral? i don't know about these blanket statements heather, better clarify for those of us caught in a bit of a grey zone at the moment :)

aw cheers heather! it's all a bit old pn there, one day i'll own a computer and i'll get the new shit on there.... my latest work was an album covber for this dude in the US, Science Fiction, u can have a lok at it here- http://www.accesshiphop.com/store/?page_name=details&item_id=6344 ...thi picture on there is abit overexposed, but i ain't got it on my site so it'll have to do!!!

cheers to everyone else for making me feel welcome!!! you fucking fucks. i gotta be back at work now, *boing*

I don't think he's talking about you Libelle. You're too 1-dimemsional to be sarcastic.

//you're now a REAL member.
member stage II checklist:

...verbal fist-fight with lena o (don't worry - she's actually the figment of someone else's deranged imagination)
...use of NZ Music forums to organise meeting of other nzmers, then follow-up sifty in-joke-riddled conversation regarding aforementioned event. Optional: friendly suggestion from Aka to use the chat room.
...participation in an argument about NZOA funding; doesn't matter which side you're on
...reference to another topic posted some months ago; subsequent plea to Noizyboy to find the topic
...familiarity and use of the phrases "fuck the fuck off you fucking fucks" or "get your hand off it".
...sending that first timid email to a regular with whom you seem to get along, leading to regular (purely platonic) swapping of emails complaining about more annoying members. Optional: chat.
...creation of an alternate logon. Unless, of course, you're the alternate logon...

yeah we tell what race you are by how you post?? right

//sifty in-joke-riddled conversation

Interesting to see 'sifty' being used by an aucklander. When I was there recently I had a number of people baffled by me using it. But good to see the evil influence spreading....

//Interesting to see 'sifty' being used by an aucklander

Actually, I picked it up a few years back when I lived in Wellington..from someone who grew up in Christchurch.

////you're now a REAL member.
member stage II checklist:

...hedge, you forgot to mention "fuck off bruce."

ah, fuck it, who cares.

Jeez! Jotun's humour is just misunderstood...

Hmmm. I went for a bit of a look around the ever-unreliable interweb. and found the following two definitions for 'sifter'.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sifter
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sifter

Originally describing hard riding stoner mountain bikers from Wellington in the early 90's, and fringe dwellers of the Cuba Street scene, now expanded to cover a wide range of counter culture theorists and urban cruisers.

A bunch of sifters were sifting out in the cafe, smoking hooter and chilling, it was a sifty scene.

sifter

noun. homo sapien specifically originating from lincoln university, canterbury, new zealand.
highly intellectual but actually well spoken pikey.
interests: lsd,pot, farmer scaring, surfing and sifting.
capable of blending in any social circle and only detectable by another sifter.(see sifter)
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Here it looks like we have a few different groups proclaiming genesis of this word extension (it's a new extended meaning for an existing word).
I first came across it in '96 when I started at varsity. Actually it seemed like an uber indoctrination. On saturday nobody knew what it was, and by the end of the week, it was proably the third most common verb after be and have. I've always kind of assumed it originated in Dunedin, as people from all over the place who hadn't used it before suddenly were. It is entirely possible a small sub-group of people had been using it elsewhere and introduced it into dunedin causing a rapid spread. It's all pretty much going to be down to conjecture I think. Certainly from my travels I suspect it gained it's first serious foothold in Dunedin (inasmuchas any scarfie knew what it meant, but students and friends other places didn't).

Oh yeah. Heh. Definition ala limegreen.

Somewhat cheekily I got the following published to try and get the first published record....

Sifting is aimless or subversive wandering.

sift (v)
1. aimless (or apparently aimless) wandering, often in search of excitement or social contact

sift(n)
1. said aimless walk

sifter (n)
1. person who sifts

sifty(adj)
1. person that goes sifting
2. dodgy/dubious/sketchy (moves quite close to the definition of 'shifty')

There is also a somewhat newer trend (although probably still from the late '90s) for it also be somewhat synonymous with sleazy, generating a few new meanings. He was sifting onto her. She's very sifty when she's drunk.
I'm not such a fan of those meanings because I love the sense of the word minus the sleazy connotations (it fills a gap for an activity that had been nameless).

so "sifty" ~= "aimless" ????

I'd be more inclined to say that sifty ~= meandering

¿would shoving my strap-on so hard up your ass that you have rubber on your breath be a serious crime?- or a ¿welcome relief?

jeez Lena, have no morality?!