oh yeah...and there are plenty of shows. Some are on the "tape loop" others you need to send to individually...

You can send too (and obviously some shows won't apply to certain bands/genres):

RTR on Saturdays on TV2
Most Wanted on TV3 and TV4
Pepsi Chart Show on TV3 & TV4
Space & Squeeze (after feb 2004)
Juice TV
C4
Mai Time
HUM
Flipside
What Now & WNTV
Good Morning Show
CTV
TelstraSaturn
Upload TV.com (NZM)
Family Television Network
Queer Nation

yeah...the whole beta thing is holding back alot of bands...that and boring video PDs.

accepting on DVD would definately make the whole process a lot simpler and easier...but i don't really see that happening.

If you put a beta tape on the tape loop..it goes to around 5 of the programmers, you then get it back and send it one at a time to the others....it frustratiingly takes time. But you can just do it with one dub.

I'll do the transfer for free if anyone needs it! A 6 minute digibeta tape costs about $25.

DVD is not a solid enough format for broadcast, drop outs glitches, mpeg4 yuckines etc...and you cant expect shows that recieve tonnes of vids to transfer your stuff for you....make yjeir job as easy as poss I rekon

// personally I like to see people do creative things with video clips...u don't need money, just an imagination :)

I'm the oppposite...of course i like to see an original idea, but i think too many bands get obssesed with having a very complex and crazy storyline vid. For me, its about simplicity and making something look good. More time spent grading, less time spent writing scripts.

mmm... imagination is good for sure, but sometimes bands get so dedicated to thinking of ideas that will be radical and cool that they actually never end up making a video. I always feel it best to just go and do it.

grading is working with the colour temperature/colour balance/contrast/levels/grain etc etc...after a video has been shot. Sometimes to try and make DV look like film sometimes to decide if maybe a change in colour temperature might fit the mood of the clip more.

good program is adobe after effects.
find freeware version most places?

hey blink,
didn't i call you a topic nazi today? (on a different thread)
you can deny it if you want...

// didn't i call you a topic nazi today? (on a different thread)

yeah...and i responded on that thread....as well as being a forum topic nazi, i am also a "not carry on conversations in several different forums nazi!"

// What about Beta? How much is it? It sounds expensive from the way you are talking about it. Do you know which shows will accept just DV tape?

I've never actually paid for one...i keep on pulling favours...cept now I've run out of favours, so i guess I'll be finding out soon. Its not THAT expensive. If you got a "dub" shop to do it, it would prob cost around $50 including tape.....its just an annoying expense you ALWAYS forget about...that and couriering it to the shows.

I know HUM accept dv tapes (you'd expect anyone using the hum name to be fair:) You's have to ask individual shows their needs....however i would definately suggest getting at least one beta transfer, If a dub is out of the ordinary they might be less inclined to playlist it ya know.

Adobe Premiere is piss easy to find on the net....its a piece of ass sometimes, but you don't need any manuals or shit if you are good at using photoshop, its easy to find your way around.

Avid is heaps better and more powerful (but without all the effects), but not so intuitive.

Final Cut Pro is highly recommended, though i have never used it.

//// didn't i call you a topic nazi today? (on a different thread)

yeah...and i responded on that thread....as well as being a forum topic nazi, i am also a "not carry on conversations in several different forums nazi!"

only reason i bring it up is cos it's disappeared
and you seem pretty onto it
maybe you know how?

// only reason i bring it up is cos it's disappeared

haha...true. I guess one of the moderators got itchy fingers.

speaking of grading....."o brother where art thou" on tv last night....whenever i think of that movie, the first thing i think of this the beautiful grading on that film.

but is it as easy to convert analogue video data to digital as it would be with a digi cam?

No, her supervisor thought it was funny. Marsha hopes one day to either become a famous musician, or else assistant manager. If you're going to dream, dream big.

... good idea... can I get his email address from someone?

Sounds wicked - what did it cost you? Could you post Ivan's contact details?

what is the song called ..
naked arse?

We've done videos that cost $500 and won awards (CLOUDBOY "Red Rubicon") through to NZOA clips. If you're wanting a clip done check us out. Some of our music videos are online at

www.aminofilms.com/musicvideos.html

Cher

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Thanks Nice Guy. Have never had a bad work about that one, and it was the first video I'd shot (although I had worked in the Film Industry for a few years by then!)

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ha ha - work is a bad word!

I'm going to claim i was being self-referential on that one. How post-modern of me.

well, maybe not.

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NZ video budgets are tiny on an international scale....and no one gets paid on most shoots. My bro has been art directing music vids in England for the last 2 years and well, he gets paid more per video than the sort of budgets a lot of bands in NZ are looking at....this doesn't mean he is over paid, he is payd a wage for a skilled job that has an unreliable quoata of work...IE you get a big pile of cash then no work for 5 weeks...in NZ it doesn't seem like a realistic job to only make music vids.