new metal is a new concept kind of... well I guess itsjust taking rock and rap and sticking it together...

I don't know if its possible to start a completely new kind of music because people will naturally try and link it to something else.... "you know, its metal, but no always that heavy, but its kind of got this classical jazz type thing happening with bits of funk here and there..."

We've been trying to come up with our genres as a band, (Z Amigos) but we still have to start with one that already exists. But usually we just come up with hybrids, like classical/folk/metal or country/ska/rock. We hoped they would become genres of their own, instead of sounding like classical/folk/metal, but unfortunately, people will just say "hey that's cool, it sounds like a cross between classical and folk and metal". It is really hard to do, but then so many genres of music have sprung up over the last century, maybe there's just no more to come up with!

What, do you listen to the Edge? Munters.

Kinda like saying im bored with the colours of the spectrum... All musicians do are mixing colours not inventing new ones. Who cares what genres are other than generalized way of lumping music together..

I worked with some well known London artists who got my friend to write a piece of software to chop up and re-arrange samples in a random way. Its never been released to the public but I got a go on it and made something I've never heard anywhere else.
I'm not the only one of course. A few others are working on the same idea.
All I can say is that if you throught you were hearing the future with Drum n Bass. Just wait for this stuff!

can't you just be happy with the genres - "i like" and "i don't like" ???

I know that this IS mostly true, but for the ones that are just cruisin along with whats popular or the ones who are happy with the current genres, . think about what you would listen to if something that is so new and original it isnt remotely based on any existing genre sprung up, even if that genre is only suited for a particular audience. Would you stick with your current genre or try take up a new one, and by taking up a new type of music you will probably be taking up a new lifestyle.

are you sure you guys are mistaking no new genre's with no new INTERNATIONAL, HUGE GENRE's that get publicity and are in your face? If you bother to look there are plentyl of stlyes of music that have evolved in the last say, twenty years other than hip hop that probably fit your criteria for a new genre, its just that they arn't popular for whatever reason. But also, how many new genre's of music is there room for? We've seen quite a few totally new paradigms of popular music music in the last 100 years or so, jazz, blues (bit older maybe) blues based rock, modern rock, metal, hip hop, rap, creol music, country, pop, there heaps from the last 100 years.

what an irrelevant topic

// since the late seventies/early eighties no new genres have sprung up with the exception of the rise of
// the rap/hip hop genre (which i dont really care about)

For what it's worth hip-hop in the US started in the late seventies/early eighties.

"There are no new genres?"

Isn't that a little bit like saying "I have already heard every kind of music?"

Or is it more like saying "I keep hearing the same song over and over again, just played by different people?"

Either way, I'm hearing you say a lot more about what you've been exposing yourself to than what has been happening with music for the last few years. Where have you been looking?

Ill admit here that i have overlooked many aspects, and that of music and genres, buthat was my point of starting this topic, to find out if this is what people thought, or if everyone was just happy with what was going on in the music world. Also i thougnt of this topic because i just keep on looking at bands like the strokes and the datsuns and all i see is a rock band from the eighties complete with hair and clothes. U have to admit that that is very unorginal.

I cant say i have heard every kind of music, but i have heard alot. Everyones heard the popular and the money making music thats around today. You might think im a hypocrite for starting this topic because i really like listening to my 8foot, slayer etc. and even Led Zep and jimi hendrix.

The next big genre probably exists already, it just hasnt been recognised. Maybe its the talent scouts being dumb or the artists aren't exposing themselves enough.

And il admit i got some (most???) of my facts wrong :)

But still keep this topic going, its interesting