"The U.S. Supreme Court cleared the way on Monday for civil rights icon Rosa Parks to proceed with her lawsuit against OutKast and others over the rap music duo's hit song with her name as its title."
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"The U.S. Supreme Court cleared the way on Monday for civil rights icon Rosa Parks to proceed with her lawsuit against OutKast and others over the rap music duo's hit song with her name as its title."
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haha stupid cRap group, Seriously ...
haha stupid cRap group, Seriously OutKast should change his name to MainStream his "music" is sincerely not the outcast sort.
A few weeks ago one of the "In The ...
A few weeks ago one of the "In The News" boxes on The Onion was "OutKast Universally Accepted". And it's almost true.
It reminds me of how the OMC (Otara Millionaires Club) had that name as an ironic reflection of the low income of that part of Auckland, then went on to rake in the bling when they had an international hit single with "How Bizzare".
P.S. OutKast is "they" not "he".
//OutKast Universally Accepted id ...
//OutKast Universally Accepted
id aggree, i dont like hip hop, but for some reason appreciate black eyed peas and outkast because id call it music (more than 3 things happening at once) and its fun to listen to.
yeah I'm starting to like Outkast & ...
yeah I'm starting to like Outkast & Black Eyed Peas too
I guess that corresponds with them ...
I guess that corresponds with them coming less hip-hop...
It's a pity NonBreed doesn't think someone singing along to a guitar is playing music... what a weirdo. ;)
Um, <i>becoming</i> I mean....
Um, becoming I mean.
haha, you know what i mean:P...
haha, you know what i mean:P
What a silly old cow!!! Wasn't it ...
What a silly old cow!!! Wasn't it supposed to be a dedication to her bravery? or am I mistaken?
well, you'd never guess it from the ...
well, you'd never guess it from the lyrics...
Ah ha, hush that fuss
Everybody move to the back of the bus
Do you wanna bump and slump with us
We the type of people make the club get crunk
verse 1:
Many a day has passed, the night has gone by
But still I find the time to put that bump off in your eye
Total chaos, for these playas, thought we was absent
We takin another route to represent the Dungeon Family
Like Great Day, me and my nigga decide to take the back way
We stabbing every city then we headed to that bat cave
A-T-L, Georgia, what we do for ya
Bull doggin hoes like them Georgetown Hoyas
Boy you sounding silly, thank my Brougham aint sittin pretty
Doing doughnuts round you suckas like then circles around titties
Damn we the committee gone burn it down
But us gone bust you in the mouth with the chorus now
verse 2 is equally non-relevant. so, really, other than the fact they allude to the bus (and you might argue that outkast are actually saying Rosa should have kept quiet and moved to the back of the bus, as required), than there's no real reason the song should be called what it is.
The video clip was all about her and ...
The video clip was all about her and the bus. Which still doesn't make any sense.
// The video clip was all about her and ...
// The video clip was all about her and the bus. Which still doesn't make any sense.
belated attempt at relevancy methinks...
heh, that is so random. i mean why name ...
heh, that is so random. i mean why name a song that if it has no relevance whatsoever....and now they're getting sued for it. wtf were they thinking?
Whadda Bitch....
Whadda Bitch.
Too bad really, it was a pretty cool ...
Too bad really, it was a pretty cool song. The neville brothers did a tribute to Rosa Parks called Sister Rosa... I don't see her jumping up and down on their dicks.
"She had approved a collection of ...
"She had approved a collection of gospel recordings by various artists, released in 1995 and entitled A Tribute to Mrs. Rosa Parks."
No doubt the Neville song fell into the same boat. Nothing wrong with tributes - it's a bit different when you're just using the name to shift units.
"Gee, why's she so pissy about ...
"Gee, why's she so pissy about it?"
Well, here's someone who single-handedly instigated a massive equal rights rewrite, basically through sheer stroppiness. I wouldn't want to cross her.
Man she loses respect just doing that ...
Man she loses respect just doing that knowing that she's a person of her status & also of the same race as the brothers in Outkast (by the way its 2 guys not one person & they are blood brothers Dre & Big Boi). She should be lucky, i would call it promotion, well i didn't know much about her until i heard the song & did a bit of research myself as to who she was. So its a bit handy for me personally but for others who dont get it, perhaps you should get into the minds of what its like to be a black american. I would say its about representing history in a secretive way..you've got to be in the mind of the writer to understand what the song really means. You should know, you guys are writers too.
well i knew who rosa parks ...
well i knew who rosa parks was....she's a very brave woman for doing what she did. I've only heard the song a couple of times, and seen the video once; from the title of the song I thought it might be some tribute piece, and if that was the case, then for the sake of history- cool! however, judging from the lyrics that noizyboy posted above, its almost like they're taking the piss out of her, which when you think about it totally fucking sucks. I mean, she was one of the heroes who ensured their freedom today, if her and others hadn't taken action they wouldn't be stars on TV- they'd probably still be under jim crow segregation. They ought to show her some respect.
// she loses respect *she* loses ...
// she loses respect
*she* loses respect? how so? because she's trying to defend her name from being hijacked by a couple of hip-hop boys trying to sell their song? As her lawyer points out, she was and still is a staunch civil rights advocate, and doesn't want to be associated with a song which "includes profanity and a racial slur".
As the judges at the case stated: "...using Rosa Parks' name was a "good marketing move" since "’Rosa Parks’ was likely to sell far more recordings than ‘Back of the Bus.’”
and after that, you just lose me...
// I would say its about representing history in a secretive way
Please explain.
She's always said that she just ...
She's always said that she just didn't get up cos her feet were sore, so she's totally an accidental hero.
//she's totally an accidental ...
//she's totally an accidental hero.//
I don't know about that. She had actually been an active civil rights worker before the bus incident-- a secretary for the NAACP (national association for the advancement of coloured people) for 12 years before the '55 boycott. And apparently she had similar confrontations with bus drivers before- some bus drivers would even refuse to pick her up.
Simply moving to the back of the bus, ...
Simply moving to the back of the bus, giving it up to the club that rocks, Rosa Parks was the one that gave them notions as to how the chorus goes & therefore what better to name the song but Rosa Parks.
man this is interesting .. . i take ...
man this is interesting .. .
i take a different view to many of you, and think that isn't it just a little petty for a former civil rights activist to sue two of her fellow citizens for using her name in a song. Traditionally, having your name dropped in a hip hop song is a mark of respect and camaraderie, unless you are being outright dissed, which she isn't even though the lyrics are a little bit cryptic and could be construed that way.
Funny that she's waited till now to sue them, that songs been around (and well known) for at least four or five years now.....perhaps old rosa needs a bit more income to supplement her pension.
I hope outkast don't lose this little battle, however 'popular' they are, they are still making some damn fine music, unlike most of their hiphop/rap buddies.
// Funny that she's waited till now to ...
// Funny that she's waited till now to sue them
nah, she tried from the word go, back in 1999, but it got dismissed, and it's taken this long for the case to come up again on appeal.
Yes Grusome I must agree on your wave, ...
Yes Grusome I must agree on your wave, mark of respect is how I would view it. They are too ice cold to even use her name for marketing purposes so how can anyone accuse them for that.
By the way these dudes are M&M's favourite rappers.
// mark of respect is how I would view ...
// mark of respect is how I would view it
you'd be in the minority on that one, I think. Again, the chorus is in total contradiction to the stand Rosa Parks took that day in 1955 (or didn't stand, if you see what I mean). Naming this song 'Rosa Parks' is the same as naming a song about fighting colonial oppression with violence 'Mahatma Gandhi.'
from:
http://www.daveyd.com/newsmay14rosaparks.html
Justice John Holschuh writes that it was "highly questionable" what purpose the title served artistically in regards to the lyrics.
As a result, the panel sent the matter back down to the lower court, and ordered Hackett to hold another hearing to determine whether OutKast's use of Parks' name was really a "disguised commercial advertisement."
"This actually has reaffirmed the rights of other citizens in the United States that others should not appropriate one's name for profit without one's consent," Parks' attorney, Gregory Reed, tells the Associated Press. "It's another stand for which Mrs. Parks has stood tall."
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and...
http://realish.com/misc/outkast.shtml
"...Outkast's claims in this case strain credulity. According to their statement, the song "Rosa Parks" is "educating young people about the heroes in the African-American community." Their lawyer, former Michigan Supreme Court justice Conrad L. Mallett, calls it "an educational song to make young kids aware of [Parks'] accomplishments."
This interpretation of the song has no legs. LaFace Records issued a statement saying that "both the label and Outkast have enormous respect for Ms. Parks and the accomplishments and contributions she has made to the Civil Rights Movement," and they seem to be sincere--but the song's got nothing to do with Parks or civil rights. It's about the rap industry. Maybe there's a thin analogy in there somewhere, but those who know nothing about Rosa Parks will not learn anything about her or the civil rights movement from the song. If Dre and Big Boi feel a responsibility to educate the youth about black civil rights pioneers, they have not translated that obligation into a song about black pioneers.
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and the real kicker...
http://ipcenter.bna.com/pic2/ip.nsf/id/BNAP-5MYL8Y?OpenDocument
It is true that the phrase "move to the back of the bus" is repeatedly used in the "hook" or chorus of the song. When the phrase is considered in the context of the lyrics, however, the phrase has absolutely nothing to do with Rosa Parks. There could be no stronger, no more compelling evidence of this fact than the admission of "Dré" (André "Dré" Benjamin) that, "We (OutKast) never intended for the song to be about Rosa Parks or the civil rights movement. It was just symbolic, meaning that we comin' back out, so all you other MCs move to the back of the bus."
Back of the Bus, for example, would be a title that is obviously relevant to the content of the song, but it also would not have the marketing power of an icon in the civil rights movement. Choosing Rosa Parks' name as the title of the song unquestionably enhanced the song's potential sale to the consuming public.
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// By the way these dudes are M&M's favourite rappers.
I thought 50 cent was eminem's favourite rapper. Or was it DMX? Or Dre? Or LL Cool J? Must depend on the day of the week.
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word. the real shame is it's ...
word.
the real shame is it's actually their best song from their best album. maybe it will give that album more recognition?
// maybe it will give that album more ...
// maybe it will give that album more recognition?
ahaha. all part of their master plan, eh? considering she's only asking for US$75000, it's not a bad way to get a lot of press coverage. clever sods.
It works both ways in the long run. She ...
It works both ways in the long run. She gets double recognition in the end...and so do they.
She should be grateful they wanted to name their song after her.