Just can't shake dem blues

Hey hey,

In all seriousness, I think I have depression- without any reason or warning, I start feeling overwhelmingly sad, depressed, negative, lethargic, and I just can't shake it off. Even while it's happening, I know that there's no reason for it; I know that the feelings have no substance behind them, if you know what I mean... but sometimes it just hangs around for ages. It isn't having an impact on the rest of my life -yet- and I seem to be able to control it by taking time out, or deliberately having a chuckle at myself... Does anyone think I might be nuts??? I mean, clinically??? Or is it just a case o dem blues?

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just go smoke some weed man

For real split up some reefer on your own or with someone you can laugh with!

Well that's the thing though- if your not careful about that (paranoia) you could wind up worse off!

Hugs not Drugs.

is satan lucifier sam?

True dat man! I get paranoid everytime..sometimes I just have a real nice greenage & then kick back. i prefer hitting up on my own or just have my quick rounds with the crew & then quickly dissapear in my room where I can just kick back & be high by myself...Get high with someone then spend time alone or just split up your reef on your own..i do it all the time.
I get the meanest paranoia blues but then sometimes I get this wacked buzz where Im so out of my mind I feel like im the shit & just laugh & buzz out on how extreme the world is.
When Im high I accept what goes on around us daily, i take everything as it comes, i go through problems for the saking of just needing to pass through it to get it over & done with.
Needless to say, dont need to smoke weed to get you feeling all hyped & happy..its just a nice buzz to get you relaxed & not take shit to heart.
I feel what you feel all the time but I hold my own head up off the ground, I wake my own self up when Im lethargic, I look the world in the eye & think ..."Ph*k this shit man! I'm not going to feel this way..I'm laughing my way through" It gets silly when you chuckle at yourself but its a self healing where you can feel sane about the stuff that happens to everyone alike.
You not the only one feeling your shit, what about the chick next door? What about the dude across the road? We take it as it comes but we shall not let it eat us inside. You have all the essential parts to function well...use them..you control your own mind..you control your own feelings & perceptions.
I feel like shit at the moment but nevertheless I keep sustainable so that I can continue my routine & just live cos I am & Im happy cos I may not be feeling good today but I know in the weekend or next week something good is always bound to happen.
We dont always have the best of life. Shake of dem blues & lift your head up..cos life is good..

i know how you feel foetusboy...
no, you're not crazy...

im in the same boat as you foetusboy, when it happens i usually take a few days to myself and settle down, for me its being saturated by people that causes it. chances are we could be like the ads on tv say, and have a type of clinical depression and not know it ?does depression run in blood lines?

I'm pretty sure it does run in the genetic makeup, yes, since some families are waaaaaaaaaay more likely to have it than others. (Although try telling that to my mum and you'll get an earful - apparently it's merely a coincidence that her three daughters have all had problems, and that she's fine, and some people just need a kick in the ass to get them going. Right).

Nonbreed- yeah, I guess so bro. I mean, I know somethings not right, cause I could be just minding my own business sometimes and suddenly it starts happening. It's not right to suddenly get that way, you know, it's not normal. Like I say, it's understandable if you just got dumped or something- cause & effect -but I can't understand it if you're just tidying your room up or pottering about the house.
I'm glad that I know when it happens that it's not my fault/I haven't caused it, otherwise I could see it getting complicated. If you can't/won't differentiate 'the feeling' from 'the reasons for it', this thing could seriously mess with you.

Libelle- maybe I'm so crazy that I 've convinced myself I'm Ok!

Mwaa hah hah... ;)

//Libelle- maybe I'm so crazy that I 've convinced myself I'm Ok!
hahaha ...no no no...iv tried that one already and it doesnt work!

There is some evidence of heritability in depression, about 15% between first degree relatives (sibling, parent, child). However, you have to bear in mind that this might also be influenced by environmental influences shared within a family as well. There are a lot of other issues beside family related stuff.

While I'm doing my geeky, the point prevalence is 4% (ie, at any point in time, around 4% of people are depressed), and 10% of people were depressed at some time during any given year.

In terms of theories of cause there are a number of very plausible possibilities. Most likely, depression can be caused by one or more of the following features: physiological stress, genetic predisposition, psychosocial stress (eg, negative life event), developmental experience (eg, how your parents might have treated while you were down etc.). This things in turn cause a change in the balance of a variety of neurotransmitters (noradrenalin, serotonin, and possibly dopamine), and this imbalance gives the feeling of depression.

Thanks for the statistics limegreen.

Depression sucks man. I was pretty messed up when my girl broke up with me. I know how bad being depressed can be. I feel your pain.

Well I'm glad it's not just me anyway.

Have you noticed how many topics here have been in this sort of vein lately (eg 'punching bag,' etc) Must be the whole year end thing, tired stressed out people looking for a hug? Not that it's a bad thing- it's great that we're all feeling the aroha ;)

Gah, i hate the end of year, especially xmas. Most miserable time of the year.

We all go through pain & thats what helps us to be better understanding people.
We look out for each other because it is our duty.
We need pain so to realise not to be a dickhead to others in need.
Pain is deep, it is our within our own self development that we need to feel this at some stage in our lives.. Pain does go away..& so does depression.
Smile guys, theres always better days ahead and thats a fact of life..

//Most miserable time of the year.

its weird that isint it! christmas is about giving, but christmas gives people depression. :S

Maybe you'd pass as clinically depressed (although try and avoid the "nuts" label - haven't you seen the ads, hmmm?) but it's really a question of *how* serious the problem is. I seem to have a lot of friends on anti-depressants (male and female, pretty normal backgrounds); most of them seem to have a pretty serious problem with it, and they benefit a great deal from being on medication. I doubt I was ever as bad as any of them, but probably I would have benefitted from antidepressants a few years back. I've since discovered some very positive side-effects of oral contraceptives.

err.. you could try aromatherapy. Get some sandalwood or bergamot or something and just put a drop or two on your desklamp when you're going to bed. You can work out the best oil to get by finding out which ones are good for depression, then just having a sniff and getting the one you like best. They help straight away (or at least they did for me), and if you use them two or three times a week they have a more lasting effect.

...also just try and keep yourself occupied. I find I get most depressed when I'm by myself without anything to do. Just forcing yourself to focus on reading a book, phoning a friend, or even household chores when you get the first alarm bells can be really helpful.

Thanks Heather- I like the aromatherapy idea. My other half suggested lighting some candles and pouring myself a warm bath... oral contraceptives? Safe?

Ha, I wouldn't recommend the pill. I doubt it'd have the same effect for boys as it does for me. It doesn't even have the same effect for a lot of girls I know. Turns them into psychos.

What put you on to the idea?

Well, oddly enough I started taking it because I didn't want to get pregnant...

(Blushes) Errg... I got confused there for a bit, I don't know what I was thinking...

I hated the pill -
My boobs grew 2 sizes, and I went from 50kg to 55kg, my libido was reduced, on the other hand, my skin was really clear, I didn't get period pain, My periods were regular and only 3 days long...

Yeah, I've gained some weight, but my moods are way better and I don't need that half-day off work every month, so it's worth it. My doctor told me the main reason I'd gain weight is because the pill makes me feel more hungry so I eat more. I think the main problem is because I'm not very busy at work. Boredom=painfully aware of stomach gurgling=snacking.

The odd thing is that I've noticed that the weight, depression and outbreaks of spots are now all militantly cyclic. I get a few spots over a week, I'm really hungry mid-cycle for about three days, get PMT for two days, gain a kilo for about a week, and feel quite euphoric for about three days.

//(Blushes) Errg...

hee hee..

sucha shame the pill doesnt work for all females...
i seriously couldnt go without it these days... clears skin, shortens, lightens, halves pain- so now is almost bareable with very very very strong anti inflams...
i never knew it improved moods though... you lucky thing heather...

i know this is kind of off the topic but does anyone know anything about endometriosis or can someone recommend a good place to read up on it? i googled it but it didnt help... all this medical crap which the normal person cant understand...

Yeah, for a while I thought maybe my moods improved because I was only ever on the pill when I was happy with my life (stable relationship etc), but that doesn't seem to be the case now. I assume my particular mood swings must be caused by the kind of chemical imbalances that are altered by taking the pill.

Is that a dodgy chick aliment?! Sounds pertty skudgey, u got it?

Oh no... now calm down Heather, i thought u were christian cause u said it one of the old thread ages ago, i can't remember which. U were married?! How old are you?! Please don't exert any violence on poor jotun if u see him in the real world, for he is a kind gentle pacifist who only know how to turn the other cheek... :(

umm, why are u taking birth controlling pills heather? Aren't u faithful christian?

I took them when I was MARRIED to stop from getting pregnant. I keep taking them now because they smooth out my moods and I don't get horrid nasty cramps; something you may think you don't have to deal with, but wait until I see you next, and I'll give you a first-hand demonstration.

And I'm not a christian.

chick ailment.. yes it is one of those... and god i hope not... no im just trying to do some research... dont worry i found a easy to understand site today... finally!

I was depressed as a young teenager, and more severely than what you're talking about. I never spoke, pretty much, and when I did, people would be like, "wow". All I could think of was that life sucked, and I couldn't see it getting any better. I had really low self esteem and considered suicide often. But now, things are better, and I have my future all planned out. If something gets me down these days, I use it to fuel my determination, I won't let anything make me feel that way again. So, foetusboy, just remember that there is always the future to think of, and you won't always be sad, things will brighten as long as you remember the good things.

//I was depressed as a young teenager, and more severely than what you're talking about.

Oh I don't know that for sure of course, only you know how you're feeling.

I don't think it's problematic for me, in that it's not causing me serious harm and it's not harming anyone I love. I sure there's plenty of people who have it worse than me- But I am aware of it when it happens, and sometimes it's very hard to shake.
Like I said, there's no reasons behind these moods, and it only happens every now and then, but they're just SO intense. I can be making the bed or walking to work and boom, here it comes... The only thing I can think of that's triggering it is if I have some kind of biological/chemical thing going on inside. It reminds me of how when you're stoned or something, you experience intense feelings of happiness, but you're also conscious of the fact that they're coming from the herb- real feelings, but no substance behind them. I don't smoke, by the way- I mean I have in the past, but it's not a part of my life.
I'm not worried enough to officially get up and see a doctor just yet. I'm interested if anyone's had the same thing going on and what they've done about it ( if anything?!)

Peace

Does it come on like an attack, all of the sudden out of the blue, or a descent, feeling great - feeling good - feeling alright - feeling bad - feeling shattered?

It takes about 2 or three minutes to go from normal to depressed, but it doesn't get 'as bad as it gets' all at once- it sort of comes on in waves, like layers. Then it just fades. I mean I don't start feeling normal again in waves, I just slowly come right again.

I get depressed a bit, then I relise life does suck & theres not much I can do about it.
Playing music makes me feel better thou, nothing like bashing away on the drums to take your anger out

Hey drummer...nice one..you do your thang with you instruments...Music brings out the healing in me. Perhaps foetus listen to more different melodies, not suited to your exact taste but just to bring out the flow in you..different music..different feeling..

Oh I have some wack music on the cd at the moment dude, some Indian raga's, Lady Sings The Blues, the new Shihad live- I really dig the indian stuff, but I don't put it on nearly enough though. The compromises of flatting/married life...

Dude, can you start listening to some Tupac please for me, if it makes me feel better I sure hope you feel better. He has some really good songs that would suit your tastes. Please listen to him. Its worth it.

Depression is really very common. The lifetime prevalence is estimated to be between 25 and 50% (ie, perhaps half of all people are clinically depressed at some stage in their life).
St John's Wort is very effective. I know a number of people who have used it with success. Even though it's "just a herb", it can react quite badly with other medications, so if you're on other stuff might pay to check with a doctor. Otherwise, you can just get it from the supermarket, a health food shop, or even the warehouse....

You dont have to be depressed & also FOR HEAVENS SAKE..DONT REFER YOURSELF TO A SHRINK..never hand your problem to someone else who isn't your mind or heart to tell you how you're feeling..NEVER! Dont depend on some so called "Professional" to let you know what your brain is thinking..have a little depression time, its okay but you make sure you snap out of it when you're ready. Think straight & never let you conscience be controlled by others. Think for yourself. The obvious is right there..its hard but you train yourself to love yourself before you give yourself up to the world..
Peace & Much Thuggish Ruggish Huggish.

Err...psychologists aren't there to dictate how you're feeling or what you're thinking - they're there to offer ways to help you try and work it out for yourself, and to work through your problems in your own time. Some are good at it, some aren't so good.

Thats why we have problems in life because we need to refer ourselves to people closer than close instead of relying on a system where you are paying a person to make you feel better. Its all about being strong for yourself & thank goodness we have this forum because I would say its a fantastic form of healing for foetus..we are your shrinks..we care & you are getting your feedback for free..dont rely on these people..they get paid to care!