i 've woken up every single day for bout 4 years thinkin what is hip hop to me as a new zealander. my first hip hop group i ever listen to were tha gravediggas. they were to bad(& i still love them to this day),but i could not relate to them, not as a killer nore as a(excuse my french)niggar.simply cause i was none off thee above. hopefully i can find this out one day for all of us down here in a place called nz


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cool another 'hip hop' ...
cool another 'hip hop' debate!
what hiphop should be to NZers is a template for a unique brand of NZ hip hop.
some people do not agree and think that because hiphop comes from USA it is ok for NZ hiphop to be a direct emulation. this is shallow, and for the advancement of our own culture and identity - very wrong.
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Yes, yes, and New Zealand hip hop ...
Yes, yes, and New Zealand hip hop artists should be issued with an official government regulation pronunciation guide to ensure that all their rapping is done in a standard New Zealand accent.
yes good one robyn - or even just the ...
yes good one robyn - or even just the voice they speak with would be okay.
hip hop to me did come from tha U S of ...
hip hop to me did come from tha U S of A but that dose not mean that i want to be exactly like USA.myself personaly i love hip hop and when i make music i never try and present it in an american way
but am i wrong of i try and fuse a little american style with new zealands own ,cause if i am then i am proud of what i am triyin to do because thats who makes me who i am today.
I agree totally, Kiwi hip hop should ...
I agree totally, Kiwi hip hop should have a kiwi accent, but some words dont rhyme with a kiwi accent that do with an american accent. Still, i guess a tallented artist should be able to overome this
I agree totally, Kiwi hip hop should ...
I agree totally, Kiwi hip hop should have a kiwi accent, but some words dont rhyme with a kiwi accent that do with an american accent. Still, i guess a talented artist should be able to overome this
Horrible music....
Horrible music.
HAHA!!...
HAHA!!
one thing i hate more then anything is ...
one thing i hate more then anything is people who attack what they dont understand, who gives you tha right to judge music.have you ever taken the time to sit down and listen i bet you have'nt because you only hear all the swear words and gangster vibes that come out. Maybe if you hear the soul then you could be true lover of music no matter what type it is, and with this i leave you with a quote by someone you may not have herd of >music and me go togeather like in harmony
P.S fuck what you say
Wow look at you, you're a big tough ...
Wow look at you, you're a big tough gangster. I was giving my opinion on the music. I'm a New Zealander, it asks what music is to New Zealanders, so i stated my opinion. I have actually listened to hip hop r&b and shit, i just grew out of it and realised how bad it was.
define me as what you want, cause at ...
define me as what you want, cause at least i no my words my words are being heard and you didnt stop listening to hip hop, , hip hop stop listening to you. . .
pants down - you are the beast...
pants down - you are the beast
Phobia, dude, your words aren't being ...
Phobia, dude, your words aren't being heard, they are being read. Hip hop did not turn its back on me, as far as i'm concerned, it doesn't have a back to turn.
You like your music, i'll like mine. But hip hop to me is horrible, i'm a new zealander and that is my definition of hip hop.
Chill wit me & you appreciate hip hops ...
Chill wit me & you appreciate hip hops finest then vice versa..I know your type & its all good. Just dont let the devil take over. Just being funny!
I saw nothing funny about that. People ...
I saw nothing funny about that. People are entitled to their opinions of music and that is my opinion of Hip hop.
Did I say that you weren't entitled to ...
Did I say that you weren't entitled to your own opinion?
The devil phrase at the end was what I was referring to as funny, my devil comment not the essence of the thread! Anyway, thats cool you dont dig hiphip..Have you ever listened to trip hop though?
bro hiphop is like a part of our ...
bro hiphop is like a part of our culturte ive grown up listning to hiphop id die if hiphop was banned itz part of my life
i feel the same way as you in some ...
i feel the same way as you in some part, but i would not die if it was banned. but it is good to hear that their is many out their that feel the same as me good on you girl keep hip hop live.
// I would not die Neither would ...
// I would not die
Neither would rewachick, not really anyway, maybe there would be some people who would spent the next couple of weeks moping about the house, some may even dump a brew (40 oz where available) for hip hop but I seriously doubt banning hip hop would prove fatal to anyone.
Rewa hard baby. Love that place....
Rewa hard baby.
Love that place.
Taka all the way....
Taka all the way.
//I seriously doubt banning hip hop ...
//I seriously doubt banning hip hop would prove fatal to anyone.
i believe banning hip hop would benefit people.
//Taka all the way. Are you one of ...
//Taka all the way.
Are you one of those 'nini' girls? Hahahahahaha. And silly me thought you were from 275.
i'm not one of them. i just happen to ...
i'm not one of them. i just happen to be in takanini! you make it sound like a bad thing.
Non Breed...if hip hop was banned then ...
Non Breed...if hip hop was banned then it would take this genre by storm!
No its not a bad thing. One of my very ...
No its not a bad thing. One of my very good friends lives there and shes a bloody nut-case. A crazy 'nini' girl thats lots of fun. I thought you were a tough as nails chick from Mangere.
how would it take any genre by storm if ...
how would it take any genre by storm if it was banned? and how does a genre take over a genre?
// it would take this genre what ...
// it would take this genre
what genre are you talking about man? :S
If hip hop was banned in our country ...
If hip hop was banned in our country then this would take this to a much higher level. All the hip hop fans would be devestated, pissed off & be doing heaps of undercover material for the sake of promoting it to the extreme. Its like cannabis sort of, where its not really allowed but so many people are toking up that shit for real. So it would definitely take our country by storm by way of being private, so "IN" in the world, so rich in its content to be hidden. More cats would appreciate it more & be willing to raise the bar (like Scribe) just to get it on the scene.
something that sells a lot of albums . ...
something that sells a lot of albums . .recently any way . .
which must be a good thing
yeh it may sell good in your eyes but ...
yeh it may sell good in your eyes but thats not what i mean im not intrested in profit. i wanna know the true meaning of new zealand hiphop and what it means to alot of us as a young country trying to inbrace it as our own
Hip hop to me is derived from the ...
Hip hop to me is derived from the States more or less. For me personally hip hop is in the name itself. Its hip, its hop, it makes me want to get up & groovy & do my thang. Its about identity as in all other genres of music. Hip hop is a state of mind, just like metal to another or rock to yet another. Hip hop generates a lifestyle for me. Its about being comfortable, having all that sense of humour thats so whack you wanna get down & laugh cos you can diss yet be approved for expressing your opinion & thats okay. Its about letting others know what type of person you are to an extent & being yourself especially if you are an existing/aspiring lyricist. Its about content of who you are, you want to be like, how you are & how you want to be like as well. Its about having the love for others in the game where respect is given up when it is well deserved. Its about doing your 'thang' & not giving a ph*k what others think of it cos this is how one puts themselves out. Its worldwide & ever so increasingly popular & to those like 'pants down' that dont really dig it, thats cool - everyone has their tastes & opinions & for some they just dont recognize what a musical culture is unless they really get into it.
As I've said in other posts, I love hip hop, its my call, i can relate to it, i love people who dress it..its trendy, its laidback, its solid & its powerful yet i still have my love for other types of music.
I think beyond the circle where all music has its own culture. Metal not particularly my thing but of course I love it..I may sound like Im contradicting myself but its an art for me & you can take one piece of music with another totally different genre of music & theres a definite conclusion every time. I dig punk, rock is the shit, heaps of alternative, classical material..its all the same.
Hip hop is outrageous & is a growing feature in the music industry in our country. It was born elsewhere but we adapt & inflict our own kiwi identity within it thus making it our own.
Love it or leave it, its here to stay.
I like some hip hop, but most are pop, ...
I like some hip hop, but most are pop, talentless shit that should be banned from ever getting into our ear holes!!!
I Can agree to that to an extent where ...
I Can agree to that to an extent where some cats just dont have it...
im with jotun, Hip Hop was ...
im with jotun,
Hip Hop was originally started as an underground movement but its cockweeds like Eminem, Jay-Z and other stupid white kids acting like there black that have given it a bad name. - Not that im racist or nothing, i just hate Wiggers.
beastie boys, bubah sparxx and everlast ...
beastie boys, bubah sparxx and everlast are pertty cool though :)
Dont even mention M&M, he's the one ...
Dont even mention M&M, he's the one that took it to the top for white-boys inparticular..I love him, dont even count him as cheap..he doesn't even come close thinking of his achievements as such. To down one of the best in the world is real absurd of you..Anyhow, Im down with any person involved with hip hop regardless what colour/breed/make/model they are. Rap originates from ghetto-cool type people but thats not to say that different people aint allowed to own it as well. Music is music & if we love it, it doesnt matter bout the identity of the owner..what matters is the identity of the music itself.
Beastie Boys etc...Dam straight..Hip hop is the shit here now, not before as posted on another forum & we shall not diss, dismiss or try & even seperate this newly found kiwi culture of ours from other genres.
We are doing our best & with the new cats on the scene..we are truly hitting the score day in day out as long as hip hop has hit households of Aotearoa...
Dont hate it just have a date with it..Hip hop now in New Zealand is here to stay..
INCREASE THE PEACE MUSIC FANATICS..
Jay-Z is just <i>such</i> a wigga....
Jay-Z is just such a wigga.
yeh im with you there jet DEATH TO ...
yeh im with you there jet
DEATH TO JAY-Z - hes a no-talent fag
Um, you're a complete dick. Click on ...
Um, you're a complete dick. Click on this link and tell me he's a wigga.
[ external link ]
True That! I hate Jay Z but a few of ...
True That! I hate Jay Z but a few of his songs I can listen too..no wait just only 1 where he's singing with Beyonce on this real slow track..he's just the background really & thats it but its a lovely song..real groovy yet so smooth to listen to..its called "Thats Why I Like it Baby" I think (!?).
Anyway he's a dick & even though I have my bit of my passion for hiphop doesn't mean I like every rapper in the game. JayZ is a dick & he will continue to be passed as this as far as Im concerned, so dont get confused because we make individual selections too when we sift through who we think are good artists.
Whats a wigger? i thought it was a ...
Whats a wigger? i thought it was a white nigger, a person who is white but acts black. But last time i saw Jay-Z was black, is my interpretation wrong?
You got it right Hilikus. My post a few ...
You got it right Hilikus. My post a few posts back was supposed to be sarcasm...
A Defenition of a wigga is a white guy ...
A Defenition of a wigga is a white guy trying 2 act black.
I can understand that u think that Enm is a wigga, but Jay-Z? isn't he black?
Theres no such thing as a 'wigga' ...
Theres no such thing as a 'wigga' that shit is gay english..dont even go there! My definitions are a Nigga & a Fly White Gee..Get it right people..you starting to piss me off.
Hiphop to New Zealanders is something ...
Hiphop to New Zealanders is something they like to bag. Now after have been through years of being thrown shit at them , Hiphop still grew into something of subtance that you all should be proud of. Yet New Zealanders still bag it.
10 years ago you were allowed to laugh at them (exception of Dam Native) Today, least we fuckin forget what it was like with little to none being heard. Now it is finally Hiphops turn to be able to get a decent listen have a guess what we do.
We fucking bag it.
You all should be lucky to be hearing NZ hiphop in the first place.
well if we dont as you say "bag it" ...
well if we dont as you say "bag it" then whats tha point of talkin about it at all, i dont mean to express nz hip hop in a negative way only im just another one of many in need for an identity of my own.
Baggin it is what we need to do..like ...
Baggin it is what we need to do..like hello..when was hip hop ever going to become popular on the kiwi scenery? Well, if you ask me it needs to be bagged, thank goodness that it has been bagged & yes of course we should be luckly to have it in the first place but surely with something so phenomenal on the worldwide musical network of course we would get our taste of it eventually..we are part of the globe & we do get every influence from other countries.
If any comment made by you says that its being bagged..well i definitely am happy bout the change..trying to be an artist is hard enough as it is..without it being bagged where would we get our fans? Im with you with the being bagged stuff but also I go with the effect of it.
THANK-YOU FOR HAVING NEW TYPE HIP HOP MADE BY NZ'RS FOR NZ'RS & THE REST OF THE WORLD..
i shouldnt have to defend myself ...
i shouldnt have to defend myself against anybody up in here,cause nothing any of you's say can change my way of thinking.
i bet I could change your way of ...
i bet I could change your way of thinking!