Whore or Confused?

Hey guys, who better to get advice from that absolute strangers aye?
I figure this should be okay though cos after all im sure there would be heaps of ppl fitting this description in the music industry! Got this mate who was besotted with this guy lovey dovey shit (sicking really) but anyway it ended and now shes sleeps round all the time says shes truly happy.....do u think she is?......should i worry or just but out?

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Yes.

yes but out...yes worry?

you guys are just reading it cos it sez whore in the title arent u! Admit it!
Whore whore whore....happy boys?

how about - get her really drunk one night, just you and her watching a video or something.
then ask her if she is truly happy!

the truth just oozes out of drunk people.

she sounds like the prime adultress - The Scum, The Arch-Criminal of civilisation.

yeah okay i dont know how much people are going to pay attention to this... i'm only 17 right so how much life experience could i have? anyways...

one of my friends sounds kind of similar... was with a guy she absolutely loved, took a break, he had a new g/f within a week so that meant it was truly over, next thing you know shes met a new guy and its straight in to bed... that ended within a couple of weeks... move on to the next...
all i have to say is dont interfere if you aren't close close friends. you know chicks, we take things the wrong way so so so easily and the last thing you want is her hating you for merely showing concern and expressing your opinion and trying to give some advice....she probably wont see it that way...
iv only had one relationship- that ended a couple of months ago... and even though i hate to admit it, it still hurts. i say im happy when im not. im angry, im hurt... and often its like the ultimate revenge would be to be moving on before the ex is... "see you didnt mean as much to me as you thought... iv got someone new.. i dont need you..." and my friends wonder why im happy to stay single right now...
i dont know- she might actually be happy as she says..maybe she is over it... or maybe this is just how shes dealing with it..

just make sure that you dont alienate her in any way. make sure that you're open to her so that if she ever needs someone to talk to about anything or if she has problems that she knows that she can talk to you and that you; always be there for her no matter what...
and i cant remember who said it- but getting some one trashed just to get info out of them - very very sad... dont do it. if my friends got me drunk just to find out info that i didnt want to tell them, or to find out whether i was telling the truth- it would annoy me so much.. i thought one of the important things in a relationship /friendship was trust... i think you need to trust what she says and trust that shes going to come to yu if/when she needs you..

hope this is on the topic and helps..

Yeah I have a sort of friend like that too. Bad break up and now she's sleeping around a lot, with a bunch of people she both does and does not know, including her ex. There isn't much that you can do. Just be there when she need to talk, keep your eye on her, and make sure she's being safe.

that was the situation with my ex, She told me she was pregnant and for 2 weeks i thought i was gunna become a father..then she tells me that shed been seein another bloke and that the baby was his, i raged out and threatened to beat this fucker who impregenated my g/f to death, so i called it off, havent seen the hoe since.

sounds like she might be too young to actually sleep around with likeminded people and not be doing it for emotional 'i feel like shit, so i'm gonna treat myself like shit' reasons. sounds like she's not doing it for the pure physical reasons, but for the emptyness reasons.

some people sometimes have to make themselves feel bad/empty so that they don't feel the pain of something else, but just be there for her and say that you are, and just give her time to go through it. it's like grieving.

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Now on to your question Classy_gal

First of all, when acting the hypothetical "My Friend" routine please be a bit more original. The mess that is posted up there switches views like a crazywoman. The //(sicking really) // comment was the giveaway. Switching between the third person to the first and then back to the third person shows me that you are really in need of help. Fortunately I can help you in this time of need.

I know exactly why you are behaving in this manner. That boy, it was magic wasn't it? Then it came to a time where you wanted to see more of him but he couldn't give it to you. If you were to spend more time doing the sucky sucky then maybe he would of spent more time with you. Sadly you discovered this valuable lesson a little too late which is leading you to do a lot more sucky sucky with everyone at the moment. You don't want to be left alone again but I'm detecting that your technique is letting you down which is why you are unsure about your happiness. You are actually unsure about the sucky-sucky technique. I will help you with private tutorial free of charge giving you instructions with a full hands on approach. There is nothing wrong with you sleeping around. Its absolutely normal so hit me back with an email and I can help become comfortable with the new you.

said_injest@yahoo.co.nz

// Switching between the third person to the first and then back to the third person shows me that you are really in need of help.
no she doesnt! its 1st, 3rd, 1st... normal in story tellng like this saidinjest... I, she, I... and does it really matter if its a friend or if it IS her...??? either way shes asking for advice/help when she needs it- and personally i think it takes quite a strong person to do that...

while you may not be in to the "friend" senario,im gona go with it...

i forgot to say- she might just be really really really keen... to go al of a sudden from sex to no sex... i dont even have to say it but i will- its not easy.. it could just be for purely physical reasons- i dont think age should be a judge of that- but yeah i agree with the statement earlier about how shes probably feeling empty... and maybe this is just a way of filling the void so to speak..

I was being a prick.

But there is a point in there. She liked him but now its over. She fucks around because of this. Lots of boys will be happy. Shes immature and is not responsible enough to have sex. Yes be worried for your friend because she is going to need it. She doesn't know what she wants and is unhappy. Abortions? Suicide? You should be worried. Just wait til she hits the drugs... She'll have a great time. Only thing worse than a whore is a crack whore.

//I was being a prick.

that much was obvious... i just didnt want to be a bitch and point it out before you did... ;)

buy her a vibrator she'll be less likely to catch anything that way. whore. but in!

But will the vibrator talk to her after bed? She's a whore & who cares, let her do whatever she likes, she's your friend & obviously she's loving what she's doing. Just cos she broke up..tough! She can only look back at her own mistakes & think to herself what a geek she's become. Tell her like it is..let her know that she needs to get into another relationship with someone..fall in love again..sometimes people take the obvious to the nearest limit. They dont realise their potential in taking advantage of daily life. The obvious is always there, we fail to realise what decision we need to make when we really know deep inside what we should do in the first place..
Like I said, let her do her thang, shes loving getting all that sexual attention & at least shes getting hers. Who knows perhaps she might even fall in love with one of her sexual encounters & be happy for a long while.
Of course worry for her but if she stands her own approval then you are only a friend on the side who is there to make comments, give advice - whether she takes it is purely up to her...tell her to check out the forum..little does she know how a lot of people she doesn't even know from a bar of soap care.

If she is such a *life support machine for the penis* then thats all she's good for... eerr, hoped that answered ya question...

Shes a Hoe & we got a lot of them around..Males (ESPECIALLY) & females alike..Okay!

it's okay for guys to do it, and the correct term is *stud* he he he :P

if its not ok for chicks then it aint ok for guys... no double standards thank you.... but actually- you might like to tae note that no "stud" as you call them (player player player) is ever going to get a great girl and keep her... no mater how much he may want her... or he may get in the situation where chicks know his rep so they stay away- so therefore he misses out on all the good chicks...

//no "stud" as you call them (player player player) is ever going to get a great girl and keep her...//
yea not untill he grows up and stops being a player. Player's still manage to get girls no matter what. The guy I've been hooking up with 4 the past few months is one of the biggest players I've ever met, and he still gets plenty of girls (he doesn't sleep around though, he still sees that as meaning a lot more). I dunno why I keep hooking up with him because I'm the last person to want to go around having random hookups, but he has a charm and I'm attracted to him and I can't help myself when I'm around him. At least I've learnt not to let myself get emotionally involved with him and just to enjoy the moment(s) really. But there is no reason why there should b double standards for guys over girls. A guy who sleeps around is no 'stud' he obviously just can't keep a stable relationship where he gets regular sex from his gf.

//Player's still manage to get girls no matter what.
yea ino... thats the crap part... but thats mostly - not because they are better looking or more interesting or nicer and more charming than any other guy in a room- its just that they have the confidence to make all the right moves at just the right times to make sure they get you in to their arms... or be it- in to their beds...
you know what i wished? that every guy had the confidence that players have... there is so many great guys out there and they just dont have the guts to come up and say hi... its sucha shame...

my ex is kinda like the guy you're with... hooked up w/ a million different chicks- amoungst his mates he was known as a 'slut' becasue- for example- at an afterball- one group of girls- he jumped in to the middle of them and danced away... ended up hooking up with about 4 of them i think... cept he wasnt a player when it came to relationships... as soon as he got a g/f that was it and he was with that girl... no one else even entered his line of vision... and no i wasnt one of those 4 girls! hes 5 years older than me, i would have been in intermediate school...and that would have been soo sooo soooooo wrong... ;)

Yea na I'm not 'with' this guy as such. He's had his share of Gf's but at the mo' he just likes his freedom aye. I've already been hurt by him once getting too attached but I've had my time to get my head round things and figure that, I might as well just have a good time with him, cos I do when we're together and it's so comfortable, I don't let him treat me like shit cos I don't put up with that, but if things are working both ways then all's good. I was talking with his mate a cpl of nights ago about how he has found his soulmate, found her when he was 12 but she lives in South Africa (she's over 4 a visit now tho), and hates random hookups..so doesn't really understand what 'my guy' does. It's so true though, when you find somebody u like so much, if you do end up breaking up, the idea of just another 'empty' relationship sucks. Thing's just aren't the same and it feels wrong just hooking up with randoms. But in saying that, I like things being casual at the mo, no pressure no ties just fun.

sometimes you want to be with someone, but they dont wana be with you the best ones are always right under your nose so take another look & stop wasting your time with this one cause 4real he's not worth it
peace...............

If I find someone that I really click with (like I did originally with him) and there is definately something there then this guy will be gone, but in the mean time i can't help myself.

yea il agree with that way of thinking...

Sex will not satisfy love...

we aint talking about sex jotun... we're talking about random hookups... i dont agree with casual sex...

Jotun you said yourself that you're not a whore or a stud but plain right there on this thread you lie! Dont contradict yourself anyway..thats good you got morals, i shall surely hope so.

I am like PINK, misunderstood. I am actually a good person who upholds the truth and justice.

show me some proof of that before i fall asleep on the keyboard, and i just might believe you...

Wakey wakey, ur suppose to be studying, not drooling on da keyboard!

i am awake thank you *just*... i had stats this morning, my next exam is thursday arvo and i have to go to work and teach screaming hyperactive little kids how to swim in 15 mins.. you have 15 mins to proove yourself to me...

and i dont drool or snore or anythng else for that matter... my cat snores though... she lies right beside me and snores... its actually really really funny... =)

you know jotun- if youd bothered to write some proofon here then you might have just gottong someone on to your side... oh well.. bye bye!

Whats the fun in random hookups if u don't carry it through to the *wild monkey dance* stage? (Not that i encourage random hookups!!!)

I thought this was 'bout the whore!!!

but its funny... *looks eagerly*

Oh yeah...about the 'Stud' thang!! Jotun must be the biggest Whore on line cos you simply dont know where to get off. For a male to be doing their thing & getting no reputation for it..thats out of the question. Certainly for sure no double standard anymore - its getting quite old fashioned as females are starting to conquer the world..(haha)..Its the millenium my dear & yes everyone has an equal opportunity & reserves the same rights. If Im a whore, you a whore, if Im a dick, you're a dick, if Im a b*tch, you definitely a b*tch so the flow of things continues..
There is no way you can be a stud & be sleeping around at all!!
Id call it 'Looking for disease please' as opposed to 'stud' wherever you got that idea is absurd. A stud to me is someone who got it going on, got respect for his 1 girl or a bachelor that doesn't give it up..
Anyway...

huh? im too tired jotun... you're gona have to explain yourself better than that...

hahahaha... shes got you there jotun... walked straight in to that one!
i dont do random hookups either- well i do cept the numbers get exchanged so yeah- become slightly less random... jotun- a random hookup where you end up having sex with the stranger- its called a "one night stand"... which equals- casual sex... just thought i better enlighten you- you seem to be struggling to follow this ;) hehehe
theres nothing wrong with living in the moment a bit...but taking it further than just a hookup is being a bit stupid... espech when you're young...
and... shes not a whore... plus...we've moved on from that...

I didn't say im a whore or stud, i have sense of moral u know.

Jotun the liar!! haha. I know you're a good person..Aren't we all????

//it's okay for guys to do it, and the correct term is *stud*
i dont care whether you are one or not- its as before on our little argument over the wieght thing- the fact that you make (stupid) comments like this, whether in jest or not, is what is argued against... you're just asking for me (and everyone else) to disagree with you and have a go at you jotun... no not asking- begging...

I have a serious serious problem with people being labeled whores just because they're having sex with a couple of people. If she's truely having fun, and being good to herself and just genuinely really enjoys sex, then all power to her. If she's regretting what she's doing, and it's hurting her, then she needs to stop. The thing is though, that's a call she has to make herself. All you can do is be there to listen to her, suggest she talk about it if she needs to and insist that she's practising safe sex. Sometimes you gotta hit rockbottom before you can see the big picture. Sometimes it's just nice to get laid.

//Sometimes its just nice to get laid
Yeah it is, now whats her phone number again? *grin*.

Yeah, it is quite possible that she isn't a whore or confused.

Now these comments make me think...Ph*king Whore..but nevertheless, shes lucky...at least she doesnt have a conscience to say what shes doing wrong..of course shes having heaps of fun..if she regrets it then shes a dick for having her cake & eating it too.

comments like these would often end up at DEAR DOTTI - She'd give you the Advice but along with it, a trail of insults, fucking hillarious.

check DEAR DOTTI Out for yourself.

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Ummm maybe i should give u all some more details on the situation........
Shes almost 18, had an abortion at 16 and then tried to commit suicide.
Since then had a lovely guy, really happy then they broke up and now shes sleepiing around(and texting the old boyfriend to tell him).
She refers to herself as a 'player' but shes telling the guys she doesnt want anymore than sex so I think really shes the one getting played...and then the other day she said after sleeping with this guy hes the first one I dont regret. we r close friends and ive tried to subtly and bluntly advise her but its a touchy subject....i started this forum to see if she maybe happy cos i wish she was but i know she isnt.
What do i do now? I cant live her life for her!

//I cant live her life for her!
Ummm...that may be where you might have to leave it. What do you reckon you can say or do to make her try and change her life around? Very little. Best you can offer is probably a combination of:

Occasionally remind her you think she's being dumb and just messing herself up (judging by what you've said of her past, it's obvious she's not happy)
Think of fun stuff for you / her / friends to do that doesn't involve boys and alcohol
Make sure she TAKES PRECAUTIONS (I had a friend in the UK who'd had five abortions. Needing one may be regrettable, two irresponsible, but any more than that is just unspeakably stupid. That shit totally fucks you up).
And be there to help her out when she's in trouble, and make sure she knows you always will be.

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