Sound and Audio Engineering

Has anyone done a Audio Engineering course at either MAINZ or SAE and how did it go? How easy was it to get a job afterwards?

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i havnt done one but i know a few different graduates from mainz
like any trade etc they came out of school into the live scene a little green but the 2 i know are both excellent at the sound work now

Kirk, if you guys get a recording you gotta keep me informed. I need to get some contacts in the music industry and at the moment i don't have shit. That goes for anyone who has any contacts in the industry.

From what I've heard there are alot more job oppourtunity's coming out of the MAINZ course than the SAE course. Just from the fact that there are more live gigs than there are recording studios.

Yeah, well i've been accepted into S.A.E for Jan 2004. SAE actually does teach about live gigs and shit as well. It teaches all the audio engineering specifics for a diploma. The advantage it has over MAINZ is that you can go overseas and actually do a Degree in audio engineering.

I just wanted to know if anyone that had done a Audio Engineering course had ended up making good $$'s and how long it took them. I know that it's quite a small industry and the only way you really get in is contacts.

My nephew did the SAE course a couple of years back. Towards the end of the course they were basically told not to get their hopes up in regard to getting any sort of sound engineering job in NZ. The problem is there are in fact very few full time jobs in NZ in this field.

My nephew is now in the Navy.

Yeah, i know about that...it's depressing. But that's just like trying to get your band big. It comes with contacts, determination and experience. I'm young so i'm real determined about it. Problem is most people will be looking for older, more experience.

If anyones dopne this course & is interested in working alongside my lyrical melodies. Definitely hook me up. lcajmo@hotmail.com. You wont be dissapointed.

If any SAE students are looking for a band to record, we'd be keen
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ive been accepted into mainz... anyone know what im in for?

What are you in for? lcajmo@hotmail.com...Hit a female lyricist back up..Im very interested to know what you have lined up for yourself...
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Tenacious but keen to get through to the next stage...

A mate of mine is in his..i think its second year @ MAINZ. He's a DJ and he seems to be getting a lot of oppotunities through Mainz. I do, however, know exactly how much work he has to put into it, so i'd say you'd better be prepared to work! I was really looking at going there but i realised it won't really suit me afterall.
I'd defintely reccomend it from what i've seen from my mate, he's doing well and it seems like a really interesting course. :)

S.A.E is better than MAINZ because you get free studio time. You also can go overseas and do a degree, which means, if you're planning on going overseas for your future, you're more likely to get a job with a S.A.E diploma because it is a world recognized institute. MAINZ is basically only N.Z related, costs more (because you have to buy a computer), and you don't get free studio time from what i've explored.
I recommened to anyone, if you're thinking about going into the Audio engineering area, go to SAE over MAINZ

Yeah...i was going to go to SAE but then i was told by a careers advisor that it is not a good course and less than 25% of graduates get jobs and half of those are working from their basements/garages...and was recommended that MAINZ was the way to go...ooh well, didn't really wanna move to Invercargil anyway (where i was going to go do the course at)

Holy fuck i wasn't aware that the stats for the place were that bad. But you can do a degree internationally. I think you'd be more than likely to get a job there than here.

I'm thinking on doing the course down here, but haven't made up my mind thou.

MAINZ course?

not sure

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So i take it no-one on the board has actually done a Audio Engineering Course

ive nearly finished the SAE Studio Sound Certificate and have been accepted for the Diploma staring January. SAE is wicked, top quality stuff
anyone else here doin the course startin jan 2004?

who are you? i did the SSS703 last year if thats the same one as you did. im doin the full time Diploma)started Jan 04)

I did the SAE course at SIT last year, but now Kevin (Harris, head tutor) has dropped SAE and gone with his own 3 year degree.

It comes down to this: a piece of paper isn't going to get you a job. The Studio market is already oversaturated with Engineers, so you survive by reputation. A qualification isn't worth the paper it's written on these days, you need to start out any way you can and build a reputation. Live is a good place to start, I would suggest working with as many bands as possible, and trying to hook up with those who are likely to go somewhere. You may get dragged along for the ride.

As far as SAE over MAINZ, I can't speak for MAINZ, but I've heard good things. I'll vouch for SIT in Invercargill, you're not likely to get too much work outside of the course freelancing, but if you're just starting out then you're not gonna get it regardless. The tutors down there are good, have the neccesary experience that qualifies them to teach the subject, and they're there to teach you, not show off. The one thing I'll stress is this: LEARN ALL YOU CAN. Take every second of Studio time you can get, offer to record every band in the region, take every piece of live work you can get. Be a complete information spunge. This industry goes on experience. If you had a band, who would you choose - the guy who's got an SAE Masters and no practical experience? Or the guy who learnt from the start on the job, has done numerous tours, has a solid reputation, and no qualification other than his name?

Don't be fooled into thinking a qualification will get you a job. I've gotten work in Sound companies and bands not because of my Diploma, but my experience. Sometimes even just having hands and legs gets you work. :)

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Sidenote - if anyone out there is thinking about getting into Sound, feel free to e-mail me (check my site) if you've got any questions about it.