Nah, there's bands and then there's individuals. Completely different ramifications.

isint having a band full of individuals an image?

How unshallow of you Heather, so i take it you rather be scotty (elemeno p drummer)'s groupie than *dude from zed*'s groupie?

don't worry tclack, if i were a female or if im gay i do root ya over the other members of the band. *winks at ya*

//when guys get to know someone real well just through personality through like msn or something but then when they actually meet the person do they instantly switch off cuz theyre ugly or fat or whatever

It's something I've been thinking about quite a lot since I started making a lot of friends through the internet *koff*, and I've been pretty consistently surprised that I get along really well with just about all of them as well in real life as I do online. There were a couple of people that I didn't really click with, and I'm still trying to work out whether it's about looks, or whether it's some other kind of clash that just doesn't come across online.

It's a nice thought that talking online is removing the barriers of pre-judgement or the like, but the fact is that people can just as easily hide (or exaggerate) facets of their personality online as they can their looks. Sure, most people are pretty straight up, but you're still only seeing a very narrow view of a person online. In particular there's the body language or social tics; even pauses in conversation that can affect the way you read a person, and obviously those aspects don't come across online at all.

It's kind of off the subject, but in general I don't think it's necessarily a slight on a person's looks if you don't get along with them as well in real life as you were expecting.

I think there is an interesting tendency for people when creating friendships online to model things they don't know about the other person on themselves, or at least what they define as normal. So it's kind of like the similarity that you feel when you're communicating with someone over the net is enhanced because you don't have access to other information which would make you feel different from them. Where you are talking to people from a similar geographic location, with similar interests (eg, NZM), this is perhaps less likely to be an issue.
There is also some interesting research on online communities which suggests that seeing a photograph helps short-term interactions, but is damaging longer term. This could possibly be because seeing a picture of someone initially gives you a lot of extra information about the person, but that over time this relatively shallow source of information inhibits actually getting to know the person.

Yeah I think there's a pretty big difference between online and actuality too Jet ... there's all the social stuff you mentioned, plus just whether or not you ... well I don't wanna simplify it, but click or not.

But I think when I meet people off the net (which ain't often) they're surprised some of the time that I'm pretty quiet ... that doesn't come across online (especially on a message board) when the response isn't instant and you got some time to think about what you're gonna type.

Basically I'm a lot dopier in real life ... if that is possible!

//I'm a lot dopier in real life

i thought "thoughtful", not "dopier"! see you at the Verlaines tonite?

might try and catch up with you guys there. no idea on starting time. think alpha cast and sifty chris opening though which should be worth catching.

Why not marry him now?! Obviously ur still pertty shallow. (feel sorry for the ginge)

...RE genes- I mean, people have no right to judge you based on what you've inherited from your mum & dad.

It's OK I'm not a Darwinist. I never studied anthropology, so I don't really have any knowledge about it. I studied phsycology for a little while. Reading Skinner totally messed with me (as he does) for a whole sermester... free will is an illusion and all that... quite uplifting stuff, really...

haw haw! you reminded me of a comment in ... Real Groovy mag a while ago, pertaining to a three piece Pearl Jam sounding band from these fair shores and their propensity to clean out all the pies in the small towns they tour through ... now, in my circle of mates, they are known as the "pie" band. and also the "mermaids" band, for other, more dodgy, reasons.

I like attractive people. They're nice to look at.

I'd make a b-line to the bar and throw down a dozen tequilas ;)

//I'd make a b-line to the bar and throw down a dozen tequilas ;)
just to get those boozie glad eyes working.

btw heather, is that why i don't see you anymore? i keep geting emails..but never do i get a coffee invite...what happened to us? was it that thing i did with my feet?
if so im reaaallly sorry.

Well it depends- if you're posting on the internet to find a relationship, and at some point you know it's not going to work out (for whatever lame, immature, shallow, conceited, selfish reason) better to knab it earlier than later, right?
Do you think you're just as likely to meet as many lame, immature, shallow, conceited, selfish people on the net as in real life?

Fear not Valliant Sir Ralphie! Us Muppets gotta stick together

Why yes infact I was just about to go and have a tinkle

Ohhhh, Heather and Ralphie, story time!!! I like lesbian stories! *stares with puppy dog eyes*

*slaps you* ow! Broke a nail!