## GUITAR AMPS ##

hey howsit goin? just a question for the guitar players out there who know what they r talkin bout........ im just looking at the moment for a new guitar amp - one that i can do gigs with pretty easily. i was told that 2x12" 100W amp would be the best ............what are your thoughts - looking to spend around the $1000 mark......... cheers in advance :D

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also - what brands are good quality at an affordable price. i mean - id love a marshall - but what else is good out there? how bout laney? ...cheers

For bar size venues I'd go for smaller than 100W. If you have a smaller amp than you can drive the amp reasonably hard (as amps are designed to be operated) with out it being too loud for the band/audience.

What style of music are you intending to play? I am actually selling a bloody good amp ideal for gigging.
Its a Laney VC50 (50w) 2x12 combo. Its all tube. It has two channels each with their own drive boost, EQ and reverb. Very nice tone/ gain to burn and plenty loud. I'm looking to get $950 for it. (Brought it for $2000).

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yeah, i wouldn't worry about needing 100 w for regular sized gigs - geez, you can always mike the amp up and put it through the PA if you ever have volume worries. one of the best amps i've seen was a Fender 2 x 12 70w (i think, could be 80w) - farking loud, really effing loud, and in fact the guitarist doesn't play it at full wattage it's so goddamned loud. and some of the best amp sounds i've heard have been through an Orange or a Vox, 50 w, basically the size of a box of raisins, but good onstage foldback sound, and put through a PA just gorgeous.

depends what sound you're after, but i really love the warm British Orange sound.

Orange amps kick copius amounts of arse.

2 x 12 might be a good size if you can't stretch to a half stack .. .
i have heard laney stuff is pretty good,
i also played on a Hughes & Kettner recently .. seemed quite nice and metally, and not tooo expensive ..
avoid Ashton stuff i reckon

yeah im definately thinkin ill stay away from ashton - only heard skectchy things about them. havnt heard of that other brad, ill check em out though. ill also try some marshall and laney. cheers grusome

Hmmm in our two bands respectively we use a 15W amp and an 18W amp... plenty loud enough for practise and gigging anywhere... Just shove 'em though the PA and any volume problems sorted... oh and they're a fuck load easier to lug around...

I'm with Scott- how many watts an amp has is pretty trivial really, and you can get a damn nice sound and plenty of volume from amps in the 15-20 watt range.
Depends on what your ears like too, of course. If you're going for shred/chunk tones, then yes you're more than likely going to need 50-100 + watts of headroom to get that powerful low end, and of course you'll need a speaker cabinet that can handle it.
However, most guitar players/sound engineers will probably agree that a great guitar sound pretty much lives or dies on the clarity of it's mids (mid-range frequencies). And smaller guitar amps can have much sweeter, more musical mids than amps 10 times their size. I remember watching Dave Dobbyn playing 'Language' live on TV ages ago, and he was getting a massive rock guitar sound by plugging a Les Paul into a tiny Fender amp which was leaning on an angle against the drum riser. It was cranking!
I think you should go down to the local music shop and ask about the Fender Pro Junior. Small, light, 15 watts, absolutely golden sound, probably one of the most recorded amps in rock. Yes, it's a tube amp too.

Check out the link below .... nothing like some quality NZ gear. Seriously, if you are looking for the "valve" sound some of these older NZ amps are awesome, if you can find them. May need a little TLC but there are people around who can help with that.

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oooooo... very nice.

Hey, that's actually a great point- you shouldn't limit yourself to only looking for new gear- amps like the one above sound absolutely beautiful.

that jansen one looks pretty mint. cheers for ur help guys

Jansen's are gorgeous - especially for bass guitars and keyboard amplification. not sure about geetar. my dream amp is a Jansen ... one day ...

A lot of Jansen's old amps were based on Fender circuits, right?

We've got a Jansen Bass Twin 100 (valve) stack, twin speakers have been replaced for 1 200w speaker (I think)
Makes funny crackling noices when it on thou, may need valves replaced.
Also got a Jansen Lead 100, its not that great thou

//Makes funny crackling noices when it on thou, may need valves replaced.//

As a general rule of thumb the valves in a guitar amp need replacing about every 18 months for Power Amp Valves and every 3 years for Pre-amp valves. Wen replacing PA valves you need to get matched pairs.

Cost of valves in NZ seems a bit high compared with overseas ... places likie Watford Valves in the UK and the Tube Store in the US offer good value for money and have some interesting articles on their web sites. Note that there is nothing special about the valves that come packaged in Marshall or Groove Tube boxes ... you are paying for some packaging and that is about it.

BTW, crackling could possibly be valves but also in an older amp is quite possible due to other components such as carbon reistors breaking down ... find a reputable techo in your area who knows vlave gear and get him (or her) to check ot out for you ...

http://www.thetubestore.com/

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//A lot of Jansen's old amps were based on Fender circuits, right? //

Yep ... just like jansen guitars ... in fact the Rockshop has some examples in their "Custom Shop" section on their web-site.

Dont buy a Laney man! are you crazy!! and dont buy a peavey either! unless its a 5150

note: don't buy a 5150.

Peavys are ok - they have a very loud clear sound, seem to produce a bigger signal than a lot of other amps, and once you thrash them a little they tend to settle down and produce a distinctive, good sound. well in my experience they do ...

Carvin SX-100 are good, very powerful

i've always used ampegs & oranges a lot- always seperate head & speaker- since i got to nz i use holdens a lot- now own about 3 wasps & 2 graphics- go for either of these- pop smaller valves in them- make them a 40-50 watt