so C4 Has been on air for the last 3 weeks and despite optimism about more Heavy Rock and less commercial chart crap, Im Reletively disappointed.
Heres what we have had:
- Too much Chart/Pop crap
- Too much Dance "Music"
- Too Much rap "Music"
- No Metal whatsoever
- MTV-Cloned with Too Much reality TV.
i have made some recommendations to improve C4
- Start a Heavy Metal Show (hey if you can saturate it with pop, why cant you add some Slayer, Megadeth, Pantera Stuff too aye)
- Less Reality TV
- Less Top 40 Pop
I Give the geezers/Geezerettez at C4 30 days to read through these recommendations, i also welcome comments from any C4 Staff members in this thread, i would like to talk to you more about placing a Heavy Metal Show on C4, it will make the day of Thousands of Kiwis


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yep, very dissaponted w/ Amp'd You'd ...
yep, very dissaponted w/ Amp'd You'd think w/ the Rock afiliation they'd have Paul Martin from the axe attack have a metal show
it'd be the beast if paul martin took ...
it'd be the beast if paul martin took over the entire C4 Network - It'd be a headbangers ball 24/7
jono isint doing to bad a job, its a ...
jono isint doing to bad a job, its a hell of alot better than juices 'rock' programme
and i wonder what the definition of ...
and i wonder what the definition of 'rock' is to juice
Britney Spears Killing the 1980 hit "i love rock and roll" or Avril being a pain in the arse as usual.
Juice rock show is better because they ...
Juice rock show is better because they play better range of videos, but Jono is a better presenter than that dizzy blonde
Yeah, the channel is a bit too ...
Yeah, the channel is a bit too pop-orientated for my liking ... that texting scrollbar thing is really annoying, and it isn't on late enough, either.
On the positive side, though, they got some variety with the set, I have seen some cool vids I would have no chance off getting a look at otherwise, and the Flashbacks show is funny.
ive tried very hard to support C4 and ...
ive tried very hard to support C4 and watch it but its hard when they play the same stupid POP songs, repeating every half an hour. gggrrrr if i wanted to watch pop music i would just watch juicetv.
so i say YES to more metal shows.
C4 has become boring, the same old ...
C4 has become boring, the same old video over & over again
Yup yup i agree... SAME VIDEO CLIPS ...
Yup yup i agree... SAME VIDEO CLIPS OVER AND OVER. Its not boring. Its just dat when they play tha same things over and over makes it BORING... Com'on C4..............
yeah select plays the same videos over ...
yeah select plays the same videos over and over again i now just switch the tv off when its on or change the channel
I can't stand Select. I foolishly ...
I can't stand Select. I foolishly texted in requesting The Strokes and didn't see it played at all. However they do manage to repeat other songs (such as I'll Be Missing You by Puff Daddy which is at least 5 years old!) and play numerous songs by the same artist, namely Justin Timberlake, Linkin Park and Elemeno P, yuk! Also I think we could do without The Hijak being repeated 3 times a week, and Jackass being repeated twice. How about giving the specialist shows another hour each, cause every time I watch Intellectual Property, (great job Camilla!!) one hour just seems far too short! And is it just me or do they only play your video on Freestyle if you request either rap or hip hop?
yer the hijack is repeated way to ...
yer the hijack is repeated way to often, they could be NZ bands to do two a week easily enough, then wed get to really unknown bands etc
hello MTV-Clone - that is how i can ...
hello MTV-Clone - that is how i can describe C4.
nothing more than a regurgitated MTV but with Kiwi Hosts.
Uh, what exactly were you expecting? ...
Uh, what exactly were you expecting? They need to do away with "shows" as such. They should just have solid music videos, with perhaps an announcement of new releases/concert dates etc. every few hours.
Of course, the content wouldn't change, but at least we wouldn't have to listen to people telling us that 'this next video is awesome' when it just involves some guy surrounded by women and lots of expansive arm movements.
Why is Select even called a request ...
Why is Select even called a request show? You only have the option of chosing the songs that they give you! Crock of shit! and most of the time they'll show almost all the songs that they scroll anyway.
I don't know how commercially sensible the whole Select thing is either. With Juice now being free-to-air in Auckland C4 needs a point of difference to catch the after school prime time. The kids that want to watch Hillary Duff, J-Tim, Elemeno P, Pharrel etc can get their fill from the already established Juice TV.
A lot of the bits-and-pieces shows don't seem to able to sustain themselves either. They keep repeating the same things on 'Clipped' over and over. If they want all those flashy infotainment bits they're gonna have to keep finding new stuff.
The specialist shows are good though. They're just too short and on too late to attract any kind of regular audience.
metal sucks. not having metal is the ...
metal sucks. not having metal is the best thing about c4.
you suck....lol Pop fans like you ...
you suck....lol
Pop fans like you are retards!!
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I don't like metal but I definitely ...
I don't like metal but I definitely think there should be a metal show on C4. All the other major genres are covered so why shouldn't metal get its own show? It would be much better than the pop crap they repeat every hour or so. They'd be better to start the specialist shows at 10:00pm and run them til midnight. Then it would save us seeing the same videos over and over again on clipped and the A-List.
I Reckon heavvy metal 7.30pm - midnight ...
I Reckon heavvy metal 7.30pm - midnight everynight - at the expense of those dumbo reality shows and excessive no-talent pop AKA Lameoid robots in need of prozac
thats not going to happen, metal isn't ...
thats not going to happen, metal isn't the best type of music around
hey come on tama, show a little more ...
hey come on tama, show a little more support for the greatest Genre on earth woould youz?
//thats not going to happen, metal ...
//thats not going to happen, metal isn't the best type of music around
and pop or hip hop is ?
Metal does suck I'm glad c4 has ...
Metal does suck
I'm glad c4 has avoided putting a metal show on
how many times do we have to squirm ...
how many times do we have to squirm while the presenters try and be funny. Look, it just hardly ever works, so why waste two minutes being facecious and ironic? Particularly Jacqui and whatshisname, who are they kidding with their "chemistry"... I woulda thought the straight approach would work best initially, becoz they should be informative at best, then if those idiots ever have something humourous to add it'll come in its own time. Dont force it. It is so lame.
yer presenters should be behaved on set ...
yer presenters should be behaved on set really, theres having chemistry, and then there is being a fuckwit, jackie and (insert name here) are just fuckwits
Yeeep ... if there's someone out there ...
Yeeep ... if there's someone out there that finds that pair funny then I don't want to meet them!
if you compare jacqui 'rougemeister' ...
if you compare jacqui 'rougemeister' brown and clark 'wandering eyes' gayford with their competition on Juice which amounts to Dennis ' Kidz Kingz' Katsanos and 'Dizzy' Dana . . .then the C4 guys win hands down. . .. at least they have some idea what they're on about, occasionally they are funny as well,
theres been a few classic moments there .. . c4 has way more variety than juice, as long as you watch after 7.30pm . .. . Sound Lab is a wicked show, as is Intellectual Property, and home grown is okay as well (did anyone see the supergroove thing this week) . .
on the issue of there being not enough metal . . .
probably true, in fact definitely true, but not surprising in the slightest .. .
theres no proper punk videos either,
J2 is the best music channel hands down (if you can get it)
all it needs is a Fleetwood Mac filter
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I actually like Jaquie and Clarke. ...
I actually like Jaquie and Clarke. Clarke knows his shit and I think Jaquie is hilarious. At first they were a little bit awkward (esp. Clarke) but they seem a lot more comfortable with it.
I have to say that C4 does play too much pop and r&b music but we get to see a lot of vids that we'd never get to see on tv - if you can't afford Sky or live in Akld and get juice free to air.
C4 is on pretty much all the time at our house after work. I mean, if it's a choice between "Celebrity" treasure island, or Aussie Idol, then it's a no brainer.
I hate the entire C4 except ...
I hate the entire C4 except "intellectual properties" and "flashback", otherwise, it's a waste of time like juice tv.
yeh flashback is cool as....when those ...
yeh flashback is cool as....when those mid 80s videos come on i just laugh at there dopey haircuts but the cool as computer graphics are timeless masterpeices.
In the 80's, Madonna and Michale ...
In the 80's, Madonna and Michale jackson's music were actually GOOD!
i know - i wasnt dissing them, i just ...
i know - i wasnt dissing them, i just find the 1980s a hillarious decade in terms of fashion and music, even though it was the decade i grew up in.
for some reason they've got AC/DCs ...
for some reason they've got AC/DCs Thunderstruck in Select, so looks like thats the closet to Metal there (excepting "Nu Metal" Like Linkin Park)
i saw that, i wouldnt call linkin park ...
i saw that, i wouldnt call linkin park even close to "nu-metal" id call them a boy-band with instruments.
i did note that Select was exactly the ...
i did note that Select was exactly the same two days in a row late last week. i hate that Puff Daddy video, stupid self-aggrandising arsehole. Biggie would still be eating steaks the size of bathmats today if Puff hadn't got involved.
anyhoo, i don't care what C4 play : as long as it's free, they can play what they damn well like. it's still better than reality TV, soaps or Japanese cartoons... now, if they combined all three of those elements that'd be a different matter entirely.
(that Wham! special last week was pushing things though)
C4 Would be alot better if they played ...
C4 Would be alot better if they played less pop and more metal but i agree that Reality TV is a waste of TV Space.
if i wanted to watch pop id've ...
if i wanted to watch pop id've committed suicide years ago.
why on earth does EVERY Single TV Station in New Zealand play this talentless junk on our TV Sets???? GET A GRIP - not everyone likes pop, Not everyone is stuck in intermediate school, and who's it trying to dictate whats cool?? surely these people are bloody mad. (i will not mention my old methods here anymore).
surely if less pop was played on C4 yet alone any form of media, everybody will be happier
"surely if less pop was played on C4 ...
"surely if less pop was played on C4 yet alone any form of media, everybody will be happier"
pop = popular = sells more units = $$$
i think Satan came up with that equation... just before he invented boy bands and Puff Daddy.
democracy is happiness dude, everyone gets what no-one wants :-)
but at least we can still complain about it.
//pop = popular = sells more units = ...
//pop = popular = sells more units = $$$
And so it was / Our beloved corporate gods/Claimed they created rock video
Allowing it to sink as low in one year/As commercial TV has it in 25
"It's the new frontier," they say/It's wide open, anything can happen
But you've got a lot of nerve/To call yourself a pioneer/when you're to god-dammed conservative
To take real chances
Tin-eared/Graph-paper brained accountants
Instead of music fans/Call all the shots at giant record companies now/
The lowest commen denominater rules/Forget honesty/Forget creativity
The dumbest buy the mostest/That's the name of the game
But sales are slumping/And no one will say why
Could it they put out/One to many lousy records?!?
"Could it they put out/One to many ...
"Could it they put out/One to many lousy records?!?"
bingo!
"Start a Heavy Metal Show (hey if you ...
"Start a Heavy Metal Show (hey if you can saturate it with pop, why cant you add some Slayer, Megadeth, Pantera Stuff too aye)"
and then when they are done with the easy listening they could play some real metal ;) but seriously, they are never going to put on a decent metal show, even a tame one like Paul Martin might host. Metal listeners are not part of their target audience... C4 is commercial radio on tv for a reason, as mentioned above - unit shifters = cash money from advertisers - metal show = happy bogans, but no money... if I had my way we'd be watching metal videos 24x7 - just as well I don't run things I guess.
He he, too true, thats the whole ...
He he, too true, thats the whole problem aye. This is a wakeup call for all u lazy bogans out there! Stop complaining about no metal being on radio and tv! Instead go out and get a hair, take those studs outta ur face (tattos rule though) and get a better paying job or education. Then when u have enough money to endorse the (evil) entertainment market, u might get better covrage of metal! Personally i don't mind the current state at all, if i want to listen to metal, i go out and buy the cd.
we aint demanding special treatment but ...
we aint demanding special treatment but fair play - youd probably already know that pop is no-talent noise that me 2 y.o cousin can make a better example of and the artists are nothing but dicktease attention-starved lamers who in 3 months down the track will become shining examples of amway salespeople but listen up - The Rock has heavy metal every sunday maybe they should have the equal amount of time on C4 - 2 hours might not be enough at first but hey at least its a start.
*hair cut*...
*hair cut*
do they not have a metal show on C4 ...
do they not have a metal show on C4 anyway? or is not any good? the hip-hop show that phil sir-vere does is brilliant... as is gay little nick D's 'dance' show :-)
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i might be the only one here but Rap is ...
i might be the only one here but Rap is not my Cup of Weed.
i didn't mean that... i meant C4's ...
i didn't mean that... i meant C4's other 'genre' shows are pretty good... i assumed the metal one (if indeed they do have one) would be too...
ok i get da picture now, thank you....
ok i get da picture now, thank you.
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Well, they could harden up the supposed ...
Well, they could harden up the supposed 'rock' show for a start. They should be able to cram a couple of metal vids into that hour. C4's good from 10pm onwards. Before that, unfortunately, it's worse than Juice. I don't know if anyone's noticed, but Juice has stepped up, playing more rock etc.
They're both free... better than the void of music post-m2. It could be better though.
oh how i miss m2 :(...
oh how i miss m2 :(