I'm sure that used to be the case (that touring international acts had to have local support). I remember it pissed off a couple of groups (Portishead?) but on the whole it seemed to be a good idea and working well.
A couple of days ago I was talking to a friend who was sure that local support was no longer a requirement . He cited the White Stripes as an example. I didn't go to that 'cos it was too expensive, but does anyone know who the support was?
And the main question. Is it a requirement to have local support if you want to tour in NZ?
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The White Stripes had Rainy Days ...
The White Stripes had Rainy Days opening who are an Auckland act.
they also had whirlwind heat down in ...
they also had whirlwind heat down in welly at least. my band played with the rainy days the night after white stripes and they were awesome! even though we ended up playing at one in the morning! ;)
i think its something of a mark of ...
i think its something of a mark of respect for your hosts that a touring band has local support acts....
yeah, i agree. recently an auckland ...
yeah, i agree. recently an auckland band came to Dunedin, bringing a Christchurch band with it - no local support - people (local musicians) i know all got a bit sniffy at that and as far as i know not many people went along to see them play (not that many people were going along to begin with, as they weren't the type of music Dunners finds riveting right now, but a local act might have helped bring in a few more people, opening their ears to something different).
actually i think this has happened a couple of times in the last 6 months. a local act gets people along to start with usually - gets their entourage in. if a local act isn't picked by a touring band, there is that slight impression there that the touring band doesn't give a flying fark for the local scene, and by extension, the local audience.
Assuming that the band in question ...
Assuming that the band in question didn't go down purely for a single Dunedin gig, are you suggesting that for every city in NZ a (kiwi or not) band plays they should get a different support band?
obviously, if it's an extensive tour, ...
obviously, if it's an extensive tour, it may be difficult to have different support bands at every show, but it's generally a good idea to try... if anything it fills up the programme a bit...
// for every city in NZ a (kiwi or not) ...
// for every city in NZ a (kiwi or not) band plays they should get a different support band?
that's usually what happens/used to happen. usually because a touring band can't lag around all the gear they need to use, and local acts getting a good slot with a well-known touring band do so at the price of providing the backline (bass/drums).
Datsuns wiht aussie band... The ...
Datsuns wiht aussie band... The Cassanovas
so...?
And also The Users, an excellent ...
And also The Users, an excellent Wellington band.
to a degree, you have to ask who ...
to a degree, you have to ask who cares?
People getting worried about being respected again.
so if an overseas band (name any example) brings with it another overseas, or not-from-that-city band (name any example) as support act, does that constitute a lack of respect for the local audience? I dont think so, it probably means other things like maybe they were forced to do it by promoters or perhaps just that they really like the said support band and felt it would add to the tour/gig....
Maybe not a good example for NZ but when the Rolling Stones recently did gigs in Germany with AC/DC, do you think people took that as a dissing of the local audience/local scene or just being the make-up of a great gig.
I think people should be more worried about things like is the performance good, and worth the ticket price etc...
oh, yeah, there are more important ...
oh, yeah, there are more important things in life. but Rolling Stones-AC/DC - i don't expect that lineup is going to make their respective audiences complain. but NZ is small, and local acts have followings by local audiences, i reckon it does help.
Yea, NZ bands should support ...
Yea, NZ bands should support international acts. It would be a great honour for them play along such fine international acts
Any overseas band should give local ...
Any overseas band should give local bands a chance. It's great opportunity for up and comers and really is a basic mark of respect. Big Day Out always have local talent, probably for this reason alone - it's not like we are going to pay $90 odd bucks to see just a local line up is it. All I know is that if my band ever had the opportunity to tour overseas we would return the favour. Coldplay played with Betchadupa and I was really proud of the boys for a) impressing Coldplay enough at last years BDO to get the gig and b) for using the gig to test out some of the new stuff and pulling it off. At any rate if the Dandy Warhols or Flaming Lips need any local support when they are over can they please drop me a line...
//At any rate if the Dandy Warhols or ...
//At any rate if the Dandy Warhols or Flaming Lips need any local support when they are over can they please drop me a line...
Ditto.
hell... if Ghostplane need support, ...
hell... if Ghostplane need support, drop me a line. :)
Of course... the faction boys and the K ...
Of course... the faction boys and the K boys are always welcomed at Ghostplane gigs. We are playing on Sat night at Bodega with the Verlaines, you should come along...
... My sisters 21st... and I'm ...
... My sisters 21st... and I'm MC.
Next time, maybe.
Just to clarify...... Obviously local ...
Just to clarify...... Obviously local support has its pluses and minuses, but I actually thought it was compulsory. As in, if an international band wants to tour NZ, they either book local support or they don't tour (not given a permit or something). Can anybody tell me if that is the case?