old skool nzmers vs. newbies

I've been registered with NZMusic.com for about a year now, but have only recently started posting regularly.
From what I gather, you lot are a rather close knit bunch, people who have been talking to each other for years! What I can't help but notice, is the lack of support for new people on your site. If any user name who you haven't seen before makes a statement you vaguely disagree with, its like 'fuck you, you're an idiot' - its not the greatest now is it?
i dunno. just an observation... what are your thoughts?

Forums: The Bar,

Anyone who says intelligent stuff isn't treated like that. If a newbie gets 'flamed', it's probably because they are a fucking idiot. Has that happened to you?

ummm....well ive seen quite a few incidences of it. (yes its happened to me, over a certain 'are rammstein neo-nazis debate, which is too big to copy/paste here)
but here's an example...

"18:18 · Yesterday Reply to this post
Ok they bet Supergroove, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Guns N Roses, Led Zeppelin WHO CARES helllloo those bands are old, OUT WITH THE OLD, IN WITH THE NEW!!!! had to admit it would of been close with blindspott and linkin park!! Wahooooooo for da BLINDSPOTT YA GO BOYZ!!
-->Cassidy
18:29 · Yesterday  
fucking teenybobber
-->Tama Drummer "

even the site administration has noted it.

"Sheesh we're a rough crowd. Everyone tends to start off a little harsh in the forums, so maybe we could go a little easy on the newbies. How bout it - Peace love and understanding?
Can i get a kum-bay-ya?
teina "

i can find more if you need more evidence. didn't want to flood the post thats all.

Tama Drummer- im sorry that wasn't intended as a personal affront, but it was an example that didn't take up too much space-- a lot of people do it.

You got shit on the Rammstein thing for being racist. What do you expect?

//Tama Drummer- im sorry that wasn't intended as a personal affront,

Nah thats fine, its all good.
But that comment you said about Rammstein being Nazi's was stupid, I knew Prozaco would set you stright

hmm.
im not racist. my nan's german so its hard to be, i have it in me! im truly sorry if i came across that way.

the idea that rammstein are neo-nazis is a common misconception. but i am glad someone pointed out the truth :)

I don’t want to give the impression that I’m whinging about it, but it seems to me that people aren’t respecting other peoples’ rights to their own opinions, and are complaining more about members than posting about the topic at hand. I support constructive critisism, but not flat out abuse

get over yourself man

sure

^ my new nzm counsellor

I've been lurking for a longish while and have just started actually posting and I haven't experienced it. It's common everywhere though, you kinda have to see what sort of people are here and try not to piss anyone off with HI GUYS ASL U LIEK HIPHOP STYLZ???? :) LOLZ.

This is the internet, some people just are fucking idiots and there's no changing that, but I see where you're coming from :D

yeah there's that :)
on a positive note, this is definitely the best music forum ive been on. i really admire the knowledge and dedication of a lot of the members its great...so nice to talk to people who aren't obsessed with how sexy justin timberlake is and avrils new outfit. soooo nice.

If someone's doesn't make stupid comments, I have no problems. There seem to be more and more stupid people on internet forums. My problem is with them, not newbies.

Ummm this thing we do here really doesn't mean a fucking thing in the real world (I suspect that is why we do it) so don't let any of it get to you.
I quite honestly give two fucks about most people's opinions of me or my tastes (epecially people I don't even fucking know) its nice if they agree but if they don't its like that one guy said "oh well whatever nevermind".

yes. kurt cobain did have some pearls of wisdom amongst all the bullshit.

checked out his diary?

sheesh its the best diary ive ever seen! he's a rad cartoonist, honestly.

I wouldn't be so sure of that discgolfer ;) You'd be surprised at who lurks these forums and the reach they have had.

Nope I can't say that I have read the whole thing, Ive flipped throught it while waiting for a friend of mine to get her shit together so we could go out. I guess I'll have to borrow it and give it a read.
I don't really go in for diaries and bio's to much although John Lydon's "No Irish No Blacks No Dogs" was really good.

As for the long arm of internet forums... I'll take my chances *grin*.

people shouldn't be reading his dairy, if he wanted you to he would have relased them himself!!
Fuck Courtney the money hungry whore

//he would have relased them himself!!

When he was alive that is, these are his own private thoughts, none our business

where do i go to have a read?

As it is I think right across the internet landscape it's generally accepted that newbies get lashed for a little while. It's nothing personal. I try to be really encouraging if a newbie logs in and seems friendly, even if they say something silly, but if a newbie logs in and says something patently stupid in an offensive manner then - hell, fair game.

Wooo...hairy upper lip....

For years people told me that I wasn't allowed to grow a moustache just because I was a girl. Well I showed them! Grrrrl powa!

It's the law of the forum. All must endure the baptism of flame and if they survive, then they are worthy. :P

//patently stupid in an offensive manner

Hey she's talkin' about me!

It's all a matter of manners, innit? Look at all these nice people -- they had the right idea: a nice unconfrontational introduction...

http://www.nzmusic.com/topic.cfm?=5637
http://www.nzmusic.com/topic.cfm?=5252
http://www.nzmusic.com/topic.cfm?=3778
http://www.nzmusic.com/topic.cfm?=3252

Or, you can take the assholes approach...

http://www.nzmusic.com/topic.cfm?i=4320

...and reap the wrath of the nzmusic massif.

It is a weird phenomenon that a lot of newbies start off their online musings with a stupid and/or confronational statement or three, which naturally leads to a bit of flaming from the old hands. I think that's a pretty common problem with any forum, and a bit of lurking is recommended to get a feel for things before you jump in. Some people though, are just idiots.

It took me a while to get involved in my first online discussion/flame.
I'm too diplomatic.

Funny, I still think of myself as a newbie, even though there are twice as many people here as when I signed up.

Intelligent conversation deserves to be praised, while dumb convo needs to be killed by suicide bombing!

yeah ... so I should probably let you know, seeing as how you're new and all, we've already had a few extremist/terrorist/al queda - esque type members on the forums and they weren't really that funny or controversial either.... Just a helpful tip to make your stay here a better one.

>>Funny, I still think of myself as a newbie, even though there are twice as many people here as when I signed up.<<

I've got an oldschool number for some reason ... but I am still a newbie.

so how about them shoes......

yeah- i remember a lot of the oldies being mean to me when i started- it was funny- i steamrolledem- ¿where is dj will?

you're nothing lena. you didn't burn anyone. the closest you came was smoke, but that all goes up your own ass anyway.

does steamrolledem = boredem ?

if i'm nothing- ¿why do you both make a point of checking my posts?- ¿& how come you don't reply?- my little feathery friends

// ¿where is dj will?

I think he has found his calling/ distraction in coming up with NZM polls.

// why do you both make a point of checking my posts?

hey don't flatter yourself, i just read whatever is current at the time. Sorry if i don't reply all the time, but it grosses me out when you shit the bed.

Hey that's really ot very nice at all, you guys need to have a virtual hug, your souring the whole forum experience.
Manama you sound like a meany.

Seriously lena o had a mush right to say whatever he likes whitout any unneccesary nastiness.

& on the other hand, old posters who are idiots also get shit. It has nothing to do with newbieness, it's stupidness that attracts insults.

¿what’s with all the crazy spanish double question marks?

//Manama you sound like a meany.

yeah, i'm a real cunt, ask anyone. no seriously i'll buy you a beer.

Just the one, you really are a cunt *grin*

once everyone realised DJ will was a silly little boy
he changed his log-on and now people think hes a a silly little man

JJ was that ment to be funny?

¿hey don't flatter yourself?- hm... i'm not sure that it's all that flattering having you guys reading my stuff

who really cares.

I remember the day when I stumbled across NZM.com as if it were yesterday...how excited I was to register and log on...how nervous I felt when I first posted...the fear and trembling that followed when waiting for a reply...the teething stages of realising that you have to click on "reply to this post" to keep the conversation flow...then I began to figure out all the wee little secret tricks that nzm provides...
Oh yes, I remember that day...

still a newbie but.

I remember too - along the lines of "ummm...I'm just new, and I'm not sure whether I'm doing this right but anyway...you're all totally wrong and stupid! ...and here is why..."

er...are you talking about me or you heather mate?
nah - can't be me...I wouldn't tell anyone they were wrong, would I?
(*)