um...so tell me, what radio station do you listen to? (...channel z) yep thought so. and how many live acts have you seen lately?? (...none) yep, thought so.
you need to get out more dude.
theres so much awesome nz music out there. blindspott & savant are given a lot of airplay, maybe you just need to dig deeper.
I'm just stating my oppinion, I dont like all that gay shit that gets airplay on tv and radio, what NZ needs is more metal, Not blindspott metal but Extol/crimson moonlight kind of metal.... I be you've never heard of these bands because you probably cant get over your NZ music
buddy, i dont think you seem to understand my point. with only listening to stuff that gets played on tv or radio, you're completely shutting yourself off to the possibilty of finding some new zealand music you like. there are heaps of great nz metal bands out there! have you tried 8 foot sativa or ramekin? listen to the axe attack on the rock (sunday nights) and thats a start...consciously make an effort to go out and support local acts.
I dont like 8-foot sativa (although have tonns of respect for them), I mean, have you guys ever heard great international metal bands like Stratovarius, Extol, Killswitch Engage, Underoath... If you actually listen to it, this is the kind of music that has class..... no comparison to your ramikans and zeds
I love the axe attack, but only because they play stuff like pantera and rammstein and shit, name a new zealand band similar to any of tha bands I've mentioned
i guess that just makes me i another victim of media propaganda then doesnt it? *sigh* Thanks for clearing that up Prozaco. The information i was fed was from a couple of german students are our school so....i guess it could be VAGUELY inaccurate... haha you know this should really be a separate thread as it is kind of irrelevant! ;-)
Leni Riefenstahl is a widely admired film maker, not because she was a Nazi, but because she was very good at her job.
Also: topics are generally the most interesting when they veer away from the actual title subject. Especially when the title subject is as lame as this one.
:-( well thanx for the love and support guys...."Rammstein whipped up a storm of controversy after they used footage from Olympia, Leni Riefenstahl's infamous film of the 1936 Berlin Olympics for the promo clip for 'Stripped', their contribution to the Depeche Mode tribute album 'Various Artists For The Masses'. "
using nazi footage in a music video is just bad taste
i was mistakenly lead to believe that the people who post on this site were not abusive fucks who actually had something intelligent to say, unlike many other similar sites...
im disappointed
// you ought to look at a few rammstein videos and notice the blatant nazi imagery they use.
i've seen them all. i think you're confused.
// using nazi footage in a music video is just bad taste
// "Leni Riefenstahl's infamous film of the 1936 Berlin Olympics "
not nazi footage. originally filmed for hitler, yes, but its just footage of the berlin olympics. good footage at that.
have you ever heard the rammstein song "links"? its about how everyone thinks they're nazis but they're actually not. would you like me to translate it for you?
"Q:
Speaking about contexts, how do you react to accusations of nazi connotations in your music and videos? As far as I know especially in the US you were heavily criticized for that....
A:
The problem was that in the US our lyrics were understood in a completely wrong way. That is where the false evaluation of what we represent with ourselves comes from. To avoid it once and for all we want to give a really good translations of our lyrics on the internet. So everyone can understand them in a more or less right way."
The German press promptly accused Rammstein of supporting neo-Nazi "master race" ideals. The goose-stepping rhythms, Lindemann's sharply enunciated vocals sung entirely in German and song titles like "Weisses Fleisch" ("White Flesh") didn't help matters.
"Those accusations were absurd," says Landers, who notes that Rammstein is managed by a black man, Emu Fialik. "We have problems because our music is hard and heavy and because we are not British or hippies. If we were Spanish we wouldn't have to deal with this hassle. None of us are typically German. We're not even really big fans of this country, and we're certainly not waving the flag for Germany or any political cause."
Nor are the members of Rammstein Socialists, as a recent Details article suggested. Kruspe and Landers laugh at these assumptions, particularly since the author reasoned that the band's rechanneling of profits back into the stage show was proof of their Socialist leanings. Using that logic, they argue, then Kiss and Mötley Crüe are socialists as well, and everyone knows that you aren't going to hear Marxist rhetoric coming from the mouths of Gene Simmons or Tommy Lee any time soon.
"If some of the journalists want to stick us in the Nazi corner, we can’t help it. It’s the same they did with Kraftwerk twenty years ago...”
Rammstein whipped up a storm of controversy after they used footage from Olympia, Leni Riefenstahl's infamous film of the 1936 Berlin Olympics for the promo clip for 'Stripped', their contribution to the Depeche Mode tribute album 'Various Artists For The Masses'. In a statement they declared: "We are not Nazis, Neo-Nazis, or any other kind of Nazi. We are against racism, bigotry or any other type of discrimination." They added that they had used the film simply as an example of a visionary work of art, rather than to endorse Nazism or fascism.
i feel sorry for you. you have no taste and you don't get out(or maybe you have no taste because you don't get out...but if you were to go out, you would go nowhere because you have no taste). sad, sad, sad.
So much things you know about me from one comment, amazing!!! In case you havent noticed im being sarcastic, I've got more taste then you'll ever have, ......anyway, i didnt mean to offend anyone, if I have im sorry.... just saying what I feel
Maybe instead of just shooting your mouth off at people responding to an inflammatory comment, you should pay attention to the people telling you to go to more live gigs. Have you heard Subtract?
If you guys actually understood something about beautiful music or music at all, It would be worth my time arguing with you, but sinse your heads are too far up your asses not to see past the shit fed to you, im outties, I shouldnt have even started this thread, you guys suck
well, its not that we have our heads far up our own asses....just, in case you hadn't noticed, this is a new zealand music website and the people who post here are really quite passionate about nz music. when you make comments like 'all nz music sucks except blindspott and savant' i find it almost...painful. its already bad enough that great bands who deserve airplay don't get it, but when you make comments like THAT it just makes it ten times worse to think that there are people out there who think the only nz music there is is the stuff they play on channel z!!! look im not trying to critisise you even though it may seem like it, just trying to point at that you should actually check some local talent out for yourself before you make that kind of judgement call. and watch yourself saying shit like that on a nzmusic website.
Look dudes, like I said before I didnt mean to offend anyone and if i did im sorry.
All I really wanted is for you guys to list some underground bands in a similag style to savant and blindspott, but yous got all offensive, and so did I......
Holy shit! You're BEYOND help, ...
Holy shit!
You're BEYOND help, buddy.
new zeland music rules and channel z ...
new zeland music rules and channel z rules and most oz music sux
new zealand music rules and channel z ...
new zealand music rules and channel z rules and most oz music sux
Looks like you need some help too. . ....
Looks like you need some help too. . .
um...so tell me, what radio station do ...
um...so tell me, what radio station do you listen to? (...channel z) yep thought so. and how many live acts have you seen lately?? (...none) yep, thought so.
you need to get out more dude.
theres so much awesome nz music out there. blindspott & savant are given a lot of airplay, maybe you just need to dig deeper.
I'm just wondering what he means by ...
I'm just wondering what he means by "relatively". Relative to what? Limp Bizkit and Creed?
This has to be a piss take....
This has to be a piss take.
I'm just stating my oppinion, I dont ...
I'm just stating my oppinion, I dont like all that gay shit that gets airplay on tv and radio, what NZ needs is more metal, Not blindspott metal but Extol/crimson moonlight kind of metal.... I be you've never heard of these bands because you probably cant get over your NZ music
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buddy, i dont think you seem to ...
buddy, i dont think you seem to understand my point. with only listening to stuff that gets played on tv or radio, you're completely shutting yourself off to the possibilty of finding some new zealand music you like. there are heaps of great nz metal bands out there! have you tried 8 foot sativa or ramekin? listen to the axe attack on the rock (sunday nights) and thats a start...consciously make an effort to go out and support local acts.
There are lots of metal/hardcore gigs ...
There are lots of metal/hardcore gigs around. All you have to do is leave the house from time to time.
I dont like 8-foot sativa (although ...
I dont like 8-foot sativa (although have tonns of respect for them), I mean, have you guys ever heard great international metal bands like Stratovarius, Extol, Killswitch Engage, Underoath... If you actually listen to it, this is the kind of music that has class..... no comparison to your ramikans and zeds
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Hey, leave Zed out of this! (I'll ...
Hey, leave Zed out of this!
(I'll tell you all about my new solo project a bit later on)
I love the axe attack, but only because ...
I love the axe attack, but only because they play stuff like pantera and rammstein and shit, name a new zealand band similar to any of tha bands I've mentioned
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hmmm. nu-metal and nazi metal. cant say ...
hmmm. nu-metal and nazi metal. cant say theyre my passions :S
nazi metal?? Has Hitler started a new ...
nazi metal?? Has Hitler started a new genre, wow
err... nazi metal? oh! because they're ...
err... nazi metal? oh! because they're german, right? you're so smart!
no, really, you're a fucking idiot.
NAZI METAL???!!! lol I hate nazis, got ...
NAZI METAL???!!! lol I hate nazis, got nothing to do with nazi, same goes for nu metal
wow.. gayshit = Savant & ...
wow..
gayshit = Savant & Blindspott... are you on crack or what? You lose all credibility with statements like that.. my next question.. are you 12?
i guess that just makes me i another ...
i guess that just makes me i another victim of media propaganda then doesnt it? *sigh* Thanks for clearing that up Prozaco. The information i was fed was from a couple of german students are our school so....i guess it could be VAGUELY inaccurate... haha you know this should really be a separate thread as it is kind of irrelevant! ;-)
Leni Riefenstahl is a widely admired ...
Leni Riefenstahl is a widely admired film maker, not because she was a Nazi, but because she was very good at her job.
Also: topics are generally the most interesting when they veer away from the actual title subject. Especially when the title subject is as lame as this one.
Rammstein are neo-nazis....
Rammstein are neo-nazis.
and please dont call me a fucking ...
and please dont call me a fucking idiot. you ought to look at a few rammstein videos and notice the blatant nazi imagery they use.
you're a fucking idiot....
you're a fucking idiot.
:-( well thanx for the love and support ...
:-( well thanx for the love and support guys...."Rammstein whipped up a storm of controversy after they used footage from Olympia, Leni Riefenstahl's infamous film of the 1936 Berlin Olympics for the promo clip for 'Stripped', their contribution to the Depeche Mode tribute album 'Various Artists For The Masses'. "
using nazi footage in a music video is just bad taste
i was mistakenly lead to believe that ...
i was mistakenly lead to believe that the people who post on this site were not abusive fucks who actually had something intelligent to say, unlike many other similar sites...
im disappointed
// you ought to look at a few rammstein ...
// you ought to look at a few rammstein videos and notice the blatant nazi imagery they use.
i've seen them all. i think you're confused.
// using nazi footage in a music video is just bad taste
// "Leni Riefenstahl's infamous film of the 1936 Berlin Olympics "
not nazi footage. originally filmed for hitler, yes, but its just footage of the berlin olympics. good footage at that.
have you ever heard the rammstein song "links"? its about how everyone thinks they're nazis but they're actually not. would you like me to translate it for you?
<B>"Q: Speaking about contexts, how do ...
"Q:
Speaking about contexts, how do you react to accusations of nazi connotations in your music and videos? As far as I know especially in the US you were heavily criticized for that....
A:
The problem was that in the US our lyrics were understood in a completely wrong way. That is where the false evaluation of what we represent with ourselves comes from. To avoid it once and for all we want to give a really good translations of our lyrics on the internet. So everyone can understand them in a more or less right way."
The German press promptly accused Rammstein of supporting neo-Nazi "master race" ideals. The goose-stepping rhythms, Lindemann's sharply enunciated vocals sung entirely in German and song titles like "Weisses Fleisch" ("White Flesh") didn't help matters.
"Those accusations were absurd," says Landers, who notes that Rammstein is managed by a black man, Emu Fialik. "We have problems because our music is hard and heavy and because we are not British or hippies. If we were Spanish we wouldn't have to deal with this hassle. None of us are typically German. We're not even really big fans of this country, and we're certainly not waving the flag for Germany or any political cause."
Nor are the members of Rammstein Socialists, as a recent Details article suggested. Kruspe and Landers laugh at these assumptions, particularly since the author reasoned that the band's rechanneling of profits back into the stage show was proof of their Socialist leanings. Using that logic, they argue, then Kiss and Mötley Crüe are socialists as well, and everyone knows that you aren't going to hear Marxist rhetoric coming from the mouths of Gene Simmons or Tommy Lee any time soon.
"If some of the journalists want to stick us in the Nazi corner, we can’t help it. It’s the same they did with Kraftwerk twenty years ago...”
Rammstein whipped up a storm of controversy after they used footage from Olympia, Leni Riefenstahl's infamous film of the 1936 Berlin Olympics for the promo clip for 'Stripped', their contribution to the Depeche Mode tribute album 'Various Artists For The Masses'. In a statement they declared: "We are not Nazis, Neo-Nazis, or any other kind of Nazi. We are against racism, bigotry or any other type of discrimination." They added that they had used the film simply as an example of a visionary work of art, rather than to endorse Nazism or fascism.
hey, love thy neighbour - nazis ...
hey, love thy neighbour - nazis included!
i feel sorry for you. you have no taste ...
i feel sorry for you. you have no taste and you don't get out(or maybe you have no taste because you don't get out...but if you were to go out, you would go nowhere because you have no taste). sad, sad, sad.
I had to read that twice....
I had to read that twice.
So much things you know about me from ...
So much things you know about me from one comment, amazing!!! In case you havent noticed im being sarcastic, I've got more taste then you'll ever have, ......anyway, i didnt mean to offend anyone, if I have im sorry.... just saying what I feel
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//In case you havent noticed im being ...
//In case you havent noticed im being sarcastic, I've got more taste then you'll ever have//
dude, you're in for a serious ear bashing.
//I've got more taste then you'll ...
//I've got more taste then you'll ever have
HAW HAW HAW HAW!!!!!!
//The only relatively good bands in NZ are Savant and Blindspott
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! AAHHHHH!! HAWHAWHAW HAW HAW!!
Twat! (I know that I use that word a lot but he soooooooo deserves it this time!)
yeah, gays seem to use that word alot...
yeah, gays seem to use that word alot
Maybe instead of just shooting your ...
Maybe instead of just shooting your mouth off at people responding to an inflammatory comment, you should pay attention to the people telling you to go to more live gigs. Have you heard Subtract?
...or ANYONE other than Savant and ...
...or ANYONE other than Savant and Blindspott?
subtract are the premier nz metal band...
subtract are the premier nz metal band
If you guys actually understood ...
If you guys actually understood something about beautiful music or music at all, It would be worth my time arguing with you, but sinse your heads are too far up your asses not to see past the shit fed to you, im outties, I shouldnt have even started this thread, you guys suck
This is brilliant stuff! Brilliant ...
This is brilliant stuff! Brilliant stuff I tell you! You're a comic genius!
May day has been made!
My day! (tclak you're a bit dyslexic ...
My day! (tclak you're a bit dyslexic today, aren'tcha?)
//not to see past the shit fed to ...
//not to see past the shit fed to you
Sweetmarymotherofjesus!
Are you joking?!
well, its not that we have our heads ...
well, its not that we have our heads far up our own asses....just, in case you hadn't noticed, this is a new zealand music website and the people who post here are really quite passionate about nz music. when you make comments like 'all nz music sucks except blindspott and savant' i find it almost...painful. its already bad enough that great bands who deserve airplay don't get it, but when you make comments like THAT it just makes it ten times worse to think that there are people out there who think the only nz music there is is the stuff they play on channel z!!! look im not trying to critisise you even though it may seem like it, just trying to point at that you should actually check some local talent out for yourself before you make that kind of judgement call. and watch yourself saying shit like that on a nzmusic website.
caps4life, You're a dumb cunt and ...
caps4life, You're a dumb cunt and you're giving christians a real bad name.
whats christianity got to do with the ...
whats christianity got to do with the price of fish?
Wait to you hear about my solo project!...
Wait to you hear about my solo project!
do you have a mullet by any chance??...
do you have a mullet by any chance??
Look dudes, like I said before I didnt ...
Look dudes, like I said before I didnt mean to offend anyone and if i did im sorry.
All I really wanted is for you guys to list some underground bands in a similag style to savant and blindspott, but yous got all offensive, and so did I......
Hopefuly topic closed
Thanks for the laughs bro....
Thanks for the laughs bro.
Dude, if you don't wanna insult no ...
Dude, if you don't wanna insult no one, change your attitude.
And don't make it out like your the only one that listens to good music.
And when listing similar "good music", i warn, be careful naming Blindspott.
// All I really wanted is for you guys ...
// All I really wanted is for you guys to list some underground bands in a similag style to savant and blindspott
then why didn't you ask for that? i'm sure you would've had a better response. simple, really.