Oh my god. As much as I hated him before, now is the culmination of my desire to see Paul Homes publicly sacked for his horrible crimes against the public in his TV/radio presenting roles. How the fuck does this bigot get paid so much to merely sit on a chair so his feet can't touch the ground and stammer about his little pet prejudices? I'm loathe to admit it but I credited him with more intelligence than his latest tirade displays.
In the words of the esteemed philosopher Richie Benaud, it is 'truly unimaginable Tony'.
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Paul Holmes is a very pathetic man. His ...
Paul Holmes is a very pathetic man. His arrogance and his sarcastic commentary are not wanted by anyone, especially not by the people he is talking to/about. His show on channel one is a waste of time and i don't know why he is still employed. The only good thing about Paul Holmes doing anything on radio is the fact that you don't have to look at his pathetic dull face!
i wouldnt piss on his teeth if his gums ...
i wouldnt piss on his teeth if his gums were on fire - word.
he earns the most at tvnz, but does ...
he earns the most at tvnz, but does nothing there.
he has a tv show which he rarely hosts. he hosts it about once a month.
does he deserve $350,000 for hosting about 12 shows a year!?!
The Holmes Show is good when Holmes ...
The Holmes Show is good when Holmes isn't hosting it.
//he earns the most at tvnz, but does ...
//he earns the most at tvnz, but does nothing there.
im almost envious of him, it would be the sweetest job
i reckon we can sort this out real easy ...
i reckon we can sort this out real easy ...
Holmes versus Annan - chess match.
guess who would win? perhaps that is why the comments are coming out at all?
Time for Sam to blow him up, cause i ...
Time for Sam to blow him up, cause i bet Mr Holmes is against da weed.
chess match? but wouldnt it be more ...
chess match? but wouldnt it be more entertaining if Anan actually beat him up, not just beat him at chess?
"I'm sick in my guts about it ...
"I'm sick in my guts about it actually. It was wrong, it was stupid, it's not how I think, it's just something you toss off in the morning."
The man is a tosser
What was Fleur Revell thinking when she ...
What was Fleur Revell thinking when she decided to mack that bigoted dwarf?
He only has one testicle according to nztabloid.com. If it was on the internet, it must be true.
he he, like Hitler....
he he, like Hitler.
Paul Holmes is More Annoying than ...
Paul Holmes is More Annoying than Telemarketers, W/S TV, and that kid that lives up the road from my house
did u kill the kid?...
did u kill the kid?
Sure the guy is an idiot, but don't ...
Sure the guy is an idiot, but don't you think its a bit of an over-reaction? I think the fact that he said it, shows what a plonker the guy is. I don't really see why some people are so offended?
acidess, u need to goto the 8 foot ...
acidess, u need to goto the 8 foot sativa forum, they need more ppl on it
No, I think it's an entirely ...
No, I think it's an entirely appropriate reaction. Reasons available on request.
an over-reaction? you are kidding, ...
an over-reaction? you are kidding, right? for one of our most high-profile newspeople to be racist and bigoted? i dont' think so.
Okay, let me have these reasons .. why ...
Okay, let me have these reasons .. why not!
Kitty, I'm not really an 8ft fan, but I'll have a look see whats going on!
Holmes's statements were racism of the ...
Holmes's statements were racism of the highest order. They were denigrating all Kofi Annan's accomplishments (e.g. Nobel Peace Prize) and all the respect that he has around the world and within the UN, on the basis that he is a 'cheeky darkie from Ghana', the implication being that Holmes knows better as he's white despite being just a media commentator in a small country far removed from the action. Absolutely disgusting.
And that's ignoring the fact that the entire UN applauded Kofi Annan's speech and were silent for George Bush's. So Holmes's perspective on the role of the UN and Iraq is one not shared be the majority of the UN, nor, I suspect, by the majority of NZ'ers.
Want any more?
In fact, his achievements mean nothing. ...
In fact, his achievements mean nothing. Holmes could have said that about anyone and it would have been as offensive.
If you ignore it, you condone it.
I think Holmes is a wanker full stop, ...
I think Holmes is a wanker full stop, but I'd like to point out one thing about your argument, Anthony - Tony Blair & George Bush have been nominated for teh Nobel Peace Prize, so winning one doesn't necessarily mean anything.
oh.... might have gotten u mixed up ...
oh.... might have gotten u mixed up with someone else... probably evilette....
Why does everything have to be taken so ...
Why does everything have to be taken so seriously? It's almost like you respect his opinion?
Fair point about the Nobels Joanna. ...
Fair point about the Nobels Joanna. Hence my second post above, "he could have said it about anyone and it would have been as offensive".
of course he's a total disgrace. But ...
of course he's a total disgrace.
But Anthony, i think you may be shocked to find Holmes' scummy views are shared by a considerable amount of NZers. There's a lot of folk who actually like it like that.
actually, the guy is beyond disgrace.. ...
actually, the guy is beyond disgrace.. it's outrageous, but he will continue for years
Oughta to thlyed then!!!...
Oughta to thlyed then!!!
actually libra, i'd be very surprised ...
actually libra, i'd be very surprised if, though holmes will most likely stay on the air, he's not severely reprimanded and more controlled from now on.
Do you mean to imply that racism isn't ...
Do you mean to imply that racism isn't an issue I've thought about until now? Or that we should make less noise about this because racism is more prevalent that some people think? I don't exactly know what you're getting at.
//Do you mean to imply that racism ...
//Do you mean to imply that racism isn't an issue I've thought about until now? Or that we should make less noise about this because racism is more prevalent that some people think? I don't exactly know what you're getting at.
no, no. you should make as much noise about it as you want and can. And I'm sure you've thought about racism a good deal.
I guess I was just saying that when somone makes high profile fucked comments like these, it reminds people that these attitudes fester away in all sorts of places. It's reflective, to an extent, of the country that the its top broadcaster says this. It's also reflective of the country that he is the top broadcaster.
In a sense, I am not suprised by his comments. I have long been totally puzzled as to why such sycophantic, bootlicking, patronising and inherently self-obsessed plankton as Holmes has got away with his role in NZ for so long. It is a poor reflection on our airwaves if not our culture. I aint patriotic, I'm just sure we could do better than him.
// sycophantic, bootlicking, ...
// sycophantic, bootlicking, patronising and inherently self-obsessed plankton as Holmes
Word! I like your style.
MP's will drive tractors up parliament ...
MP's will drive tractors up parliament steps, kiddies will go missing and the world will turn. What gets under your skin today will be forgotten once the aroma from your coffee cup fills your nostrils tommorow... it is sadly the kiwi way. Holmes made a faux pas, but has anyone listened to iwi radio stations lately?
//MP's will drive tractors up ...
//MP's will drive tractors up parliament steps
Shane... Arden? is my hero.
he stays employed because people watch ...
he stays employed because people watch his show, he gets the ratings and he makes money for the stations he is employed by. he stays employed becuase he has power and has been around for a long time, becuase he's successful and because despite the fact that many people hate him, many people like him as well. however, if anyone noticed, helen clark and associated people have been shocked and embarrassed by his comments and there is disciplinary action taking place.
My question was based on my hope that ...
My question was based on my hope that maybe NZ's media industry wasn't as removed from reality, in a world of money as some country's industries have become. This is, in hindsight, very naive and it sorta saddens me that the guy will only be forced out because of conscientious objectors within TVNZ (thus indirectly threatening their profitability) rather than because TVNZ felt they could not continue to support a bigot.
we definitely aren't as bad as some ...
we definitely aren't as bad as some places overseas, but unfortunately, money talks and that's beginnign to be the case in nz. about ten-ish years ago tvnz brought in some american consultants to help them figure out how to be more successful, and a lot of the stuff we are seeing happen to our media now is related to that. this is not just related to holmes but the political content of news programming in general - in order to get more ratings teh focus has turned from journalism's role as the fourth estate to being more human interest focussed. its sad, but its true. i suggest the internet as an alternative - reading mainstream and alternative (such as indymedia) news and drawing your own conclusions.
Just watch tv 3 instead of stupid old ...
Just watch tv 3 instead of stupid old 1.
At least Paul Holmes used to be entertaining for mocking value after he brought out his cd ... but these sort of small minded 18th century comments are a freaking disgrace.
Paul Holmes made a mistake and unlike ...
Paul Holmes made a mistake and unlike most people, he admitted it. How much longer would the 'holier than thou-ites' like to sauté his testes?
Get off the well oiled bandwagon and come back down to earth. He's human, you're human (an asumption) and to accept his sincere apology is the most humane, not to mention the most grown-up thing to do.
People make mistakes. We arent paid ...
People make mistakes.
We arent paid to.
He's a public figure. He makes like $300,000 a year.
It's not his job to make mistakes like that.
Racism isn't cool.
Especially when it's towards one of the smartest people in America.
Paul Holmes is a cunt.
He showed his true colours and he doesn't deserve another chance.
So his salary makes him ...
So his salary makes him infailable?
His income has nothing to with it.
Public figures aren't saints, but often become unwilling martyrs for those whose hands are too busy casting stones to accept an olive branch.
The racist labelling gun needs a rest, it gets enough use in parliament.
It's not hard to refrain from saying ...
It's not hard to refrain from saying "Cheeky Darkie".
He went to far and he should feel the burn.
He's lost my respect (which wasn't much), and i'm surprised he hasn't lost yours.
Not only is he a prejudiced motherfucker. But he doesn't do anything special for New Zealand broadcasting/entertainment. Anyone could do a better job.
It's sickening.
Infact. If it had been any other public figure who'd made those comments, Holmes would have been one of the first to jump on the so-called 'bandwagon' and negate the hell out of them. He does a bad job.
Get rid of him.
Yeah I make mistakes, I am human and ...
Yeah I make mistakes, I am human and bleed etc ... but I don't go round saying stuff like that.
Paul Holmes is a satirical sod and he ...
Paul Holmes is a satirical sod and he most definitely said the wrong thing, there is no disputing that.
//But he doesn't do anything special for New Zealand broadcasting/entertainment.
Well he is/ was obviously doing something right as his television and breakfast show has been going for an awfully long time now and as you have already pointed out he "makes like $300,000 a year".
//Infact. If it had been any other public figure who'd made those comments, Holmes would have been one of the first to jump on the so-called 'bandwagon' and negate the hell out of them.
Do you watch the Holmes show? He would've tried to get an interview, said a few satirical comments, smirked, sighed and raised his eyebrows for cheesy dramatic effect and then moved on to the next item.
Can Mike King can throw around the word "honky" and get away with it because he is a comedian? Or is it because he is Maori?
Tune in to your local iwi radio station when talk back is on and see just how peachy things are... Te Mangai Paho te putea tautoko!
//Yeah I make mistakes, I am human and ...
//Yeah I make mistakes, I am human and bleed etc ... but I don't go round saying stuff like that.
'Mistakes' are usually made after the fact, on reflection.
did you guys think that maybe it was ...
did you guys think that maybe it was done on purpose? isn't it ratings gathering time? man holmes ratings have gone throught the roof, you guys are all talking about him, are you tuning in at 7pm to see what is happening?
was is holmes or was it the network?
Well that confirms it. There is no news ...
Well that confirms it. There is no news in New Zealand. The racist remarks of any number of other political commentators on radio and tv could have been discussed ages ago so why give this guy special attention?
Because he is <b>the</b> public figure ...
Because he is the public figure of the moment. If he's willing to take the jobs he does, he should be willing to take the fall for what he said.
He'd be negating anyone else who'd made those comments.
If it had been Helen Clarke, he'd be jumping on her wouldn't he?
yeah, he would be in there I guess. ...
yeah, he would be in there I guess. Guess discussions will continue for some time yet. Be interesting to see what becomes of it all when it settles. My only concern is that there are many more like him that will take up the post if he steps down. not a lot to look forward to really.
I'd been enjoying laying into Holmes ...
I'd been enjoying laying into Holmes as much as anyone, but it was interesting to find a transcript. I don't think this justifies what he said at all, but I think it's a fairly interesting indictment, on his listeners at least, that he said the following at the end of that show.
"Anyway, I've been conducting a test. You see I called Kofi Annan a darkie this morning and people have been phoning up and complaining and moaning and yelling about it this morning.
"All you've been complaining about is my position on the UN is wrong, or my position on Bush is wrong, or my position on Iraq is wrong.
"Of all the calls we've had, only two people have objected to me calling him a darkie.
"You've failed very, very badly.
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Aaaaaaahahahaa! I saw the briefest ...
Aaaaaaahahahaa! I saw the briefest exerpt when the shit originally hit the fan, and I'd thought it was particularly odd that he looked like he was actively pushing the 'darkie' angle - that it wasn't just a one-off throwaway description.
Still not in the best of taste methinks, but I admire his cheeky honky balls.