They get paid a heck of a lot more than originals bands, usually have great gear and score really cool gigs like graduation balls... but is it all it's cracked up to be? What do you think of bands who play songs that other people have written?
Submitted by Disasteradio on Mon, 2003-09-01 19:09.
.. depends on the band.. I mean the novelty value or the artistic place of it.. for example I'd love to start up a soundtracks or twin peaks (badalamenti) covers band.. and bands like The Moog Cookbook are awesome.. it depends on either what they're covering (is it interesting enough to warrant me wanting to watch a whole set?) or the way they're covering it.
but as far as thirtysomething buttrockers playing a bunch of hits, they just make me laff.. until I see their fancy gear, then I just get irate. heh
Submitted by Tama Drummer on Mon, 2003-09-01 19:22.
tell you the truth I'm starting to hate being in cover band, I've been in one most of my life!!
I love to be a orginals band, but I don't know if that will happan in the near future
It's like the old saying goes...when was the last time you went to a wedding and the band actually played a whole set of their own music??? None, because you'd either want music played from your era, or you get a band in that plays music from your younger years.
If a person or group can make a living out of it, than I say all good to them. If not, then you might wanna start playing original stuff, or perhaps there is a calling for you to do something other than music eh?
I think it depends on the venue. I also think it's a great way to get your name out there. Alot of people i have found will often ask if that person has a cd of their own or soemthing - i think it's cool to start as a covers band, and then -if allowed - add in a few randomly of your own, as well as a bit of advertising. Gets your name out there that you're an awesome band / artist, and can do lots of styles, and gets a buzz goign that they've heard a few originals, and they're great! Or you suck. But weather you're playing covers or your own - if you suck, you suck.
And by venue's - i just mean pub scene, weddings, balls, etc, etc. Different variety's. I think you have more freedom if you're doing pubs rather than a specific thing like weddings or balls, where you arn't the main event. The wedding / ball is. Where as in a bar, you're just expected to perform.
The ones up at the empire are great. They do heaps of covers, adn some of their own - and they have a great rep as good musicians, and a sight to see.
Plus on top of that, i think covers (if you only do a couple) are actually a compliment to that song, artist or writer. As long as they're done well. I think K'lee did a great cover of Broken wings. Also i think it allows lots of songs that perhaps didn't make it in years gone by - that are still great songs - finally get their limelight.
Cover bands can be cool. No doubt. But there is too much derivitive note for note stuff around. A cover should encorperate your (or your band's) slant on a track. However this is a difficult thing to achieve, as the majority of cover bands exists to provide people with pretty much straight ahead copies of the originals. Sadly, that's what people want to hear, and bands are well compensated to churn out fleetwood Mac numbers just like the record. Great for the large percenrage of NZ music listeners who don't want to be auraly challenged by their favourite middle of the road/ modern rock stuff. A shame really when people would rather come and see a band play 30 or 40 "hits" from the 80's than see a band performing new music. It all boils down to listening culture. These songs have been heard on radio and in lounge rooms for a range of months to decades, and cover bands will tend to pick up on / cover a tune after it has been rammed down people's throats on commercial radio for a few weeks or choose a classic. Its a natural progression, cover bands exist to play what people want to hear, and good on them it keeps a lot of people happy I'm sure. I like to see bands throw in the odd cover done with their own flavour, and performed because they like it, not because it was the last big creed number, and 40 pissed munters down the bronzy will dig it. Actually there should be a new rule where bands are only allowed to cover Ramones songs. That will sort it out.
I played in a covers band back in Uni for about a year. There were good aspect and bad aspects. To be honest, in the beginning I liked the attention, the crowds, the money. The biggest gig I ever played was covers to about 1000 kids at an interschool graduation ball. I also liked that I was getting a lot of practise in front of people, live. I was becoming a much better player.
But by the end I had some really big questions about the whole thing. I felt like a hollow shell of a musician- worst of all, I felt like I was playing to hollow shells of people. I don't know if I can explain it any better than that, it was just a very depressing mindset to be in.
Submitted by kittenthlyer on Mon, 2003-09-01 21:20.
One of the best cover band i've seen is Narcosis the metallica cover band! The beam bar went off that night!!! Only crap thing about the night was the large amount of hairy freaky guys....
Some good points of playing covers in a cover band are, they help develop a technique, depending on the kind of music you're playing. After all, as a youngster, I always wanted to play the drums 'heavy metal style, and learnt techiques of people I admired back then. I ended up joining a cover band in my late teens, thinking this was the shit. It was back then, but it helped me realise where I am today. I don't play the style I once did, but if it wasn't for then, I wouldn't be playing the band I am now...
Playing covers certainly helps you build confidence, but use it a a learning step only, and you'll realise what real talent is hidden under all color copies of other peoples music.
Submitted by iluvtheclean on Tue, 2003-09-02 15:20.
i know a good covers band (Johnny Fist) who seem to like what they do. they cover 50s and 60s rock 'n' roll mostly, dodgy stuff by Eddie Cochran, Chuck Berry and the usual suspects like Bowie, Cash, Elvis, Beatles etc. they take these dodgy rawkus wee tunes and really make them their own - no obvious reinterpretations, but make them a bit more shreddy (i guess that comes from having played them many times over in many venues over NZ). but the songs they are working from are such a great basis that no matter where they go, people of all ages recognise the tunes and really enjoy them, despite the lyrics changed and the roughness reinserted.
my band Onanon went on tour with them recently, and it was a really good line up - a wee Dunedin-sounds originals band supporting a big, instantly recognisable, dance band. a good time had by all.
I've played in cover bands since I was in high school (I'm 31 now - faarrk) and its great.
Firstly, its a good way to develop a range of playing styles, ie good for actually being able to play well on your instrument.
Secondly, its good money (I guess that depends on how good the band is ) so I should say you can *potentially* make good money ...
And if you are keen on working full time as a musician it can really help having a 'money gig' to subsidise the 'creative gig' or original stuff you're working on.
I'm in a few covers bands, the main one being THAT 80s BAND - 80s pop covers (all the really bad ones - Bon Jovi, Culture Club, Wham, Duran Duran etc) and I have to say that we have had some wicked gigs - so fun seeing everyone remembering the songs they were in high school with. (Well, I am 31)
Anyway, so I guess it depends what you're in it for, but I've found it to be a cool money spinner, and fun as well.....
(except for playing in guitar in a sequenced band (no drums or bass - just me & 2 singers) in the old Bull and Bear to like, 3 people.. uuggghh
Submitted by riotgirlbass on Wed, 2003-09-03 01:16.
Dude, I'm in a band, but I'm trying to start up a side-project covers band with my geetarist, and the drummer and singer from our sister band. It's gonna be 'let's cover random songs and turn them electro-rap'. Electro-rap will be the new The Datsuns.
This whole breakdancing revival is bringing back some real cool old school rap, like Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five, Scorpio, Electric Boogaloo, Freakazoids, etc..... Shit, I even heard " The Smurf " by HH the other day...I'm just waiting for the re-release of the BeatStreet soundtrack....
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.. depends on the band.. I mean the novelty value or the artistic place of it.. for example I'd love to start up a soundtracks or twin peaks (badalamenti) covers band.. and bands like The Moog Cookbook are awesome.. it depends on either what they're covering (is it interesting enough to warrant me wanting to watch a whole set?) or the way they're covering it.
but as far as thirtysomething buttrockers playing a bunch of hits, they just make me laff.. until I see their fancy gear, then I just get irate. heh
(and wazzo clash are awesome, by the by.. heh)
:"...thirtysomething buttrockers..."
Does it really matter who does the cover? Why?
hmm that was just the first image that came into my head. ahem.
tell you the truth I'm starting to hate being in cover band, I've been in one most of my life!!
I love to be a orginals band, but I don't know if that will happan in the near future
Get out while you still can dude.
It's like the old saying goes...when was the last time you went to a wedding and the band actually played a whole set of their own music??? None, because you'd either want music played from your era, or you get a band in that plays music from your younger years.
If a person or group can make a living out of it, than I say all good to them. If not, then you might wanna start playing original stuff, or perhaps there is a calling for you to do something other than music eh?
I think it depends on the venue. I also think it's a great way to get your name out there. Alot of people i have found will often ask if that person has a cd of their own or soemthing - i think it's cool to start as a covers band, and then -if allowed - add in a few randomly of your own, as well as a bit of advertising. Gets your name out there that you're an awesome band / artist, and can do lots of styles, and gets a buzz goign that they've heard a few originals, and they're great! Or you suck. But weather you're playing covers or your own - if you suck, you suck.
And by venue's - i just mean pub scene, weddings, balls, etc, etc. Different variety's. I think you have more freedom if you're doing pubs rather than a specific thing like weddings or balls, where you arn't the main event. The wedding / ball is. Where as in a bar, you're just expected to perform.
The ones up at the empire are great. They do heaps of covers, adn some of their own - and they have a great rep as good musicians, and a sight to see.
Plus on top of that, i think covers (if you only do a couple) are actually a compliment to that song, artist or writer. As long as they're done well. I think K'lee did a great cover of Broken wings. Also i think it allows lots of songs that perhaps didn't make it in years gone by - that are still great songs - finally get their limelight.
Cover bands can be cool. No doubt. But there is too much derivitive note for note stuff around. A cover should encorperate your (or your band's) slant on a track. However this is a difficult thing to achieve, as the majority of cover bands exists to provide people with pretty much straight ahead copies of the originals. Sadly, that's what people want to hear, and bands are well compensated to churn out fleetwood Mac numbers just like the record. Great for the large percenrage of NZ music listeners who don't want to be auraly challenged by their favourite middle of the road/ modern rock stuff. A shame really when people would rather come and see a band play 30 or 40 "hits" from the 80's than see a band performing new music. It all boils down to listening culture. These songs have been heard on radio and in lounge rooms for a range of months to decades, and cover bands will tend to pick up on / cover a tune after it has been rammed down people's throats on commercial radio for a few weeks or choose a classic. Its a natural progression, cover bands exist to play what people want to hear, and good on them it keeps a lot of people happy I'm sure. I like to see bands throw in the odd cover done with their own flavour, and performed because they like it, not because it was the last big creed number, and 40 pissed munters down the bronzy will dig it. Actually there should be a new rule where bands are only allowed to cover Ramones songs. That will sort it out.
Arc is having a Ramones covers night next week!
I played in a covers band back in Uni for about a year. There were good aspect and bad aspects. To be honest, in the beginning I liked the attention, the crowds, the money. The biggest gig I ever played was covers to about 1000 kids at an interschool graduation ball. I also liked that I was getting a lot of practise in front of people, live. I was becoming a much better player.
But by the end I had some really big questions about the whole thing. I felt like a hollow shell of a musician- worst of all, I felt like I was playing to hollow shells of people. I don't know if I can explain it any better than that, it was just a very depressing mindset to be in.
One of the best cover band i've seen is Narcosis the metallica cover band! The beam bar went off that night!!! Only crap thing about the night was the large amount of hairy freaky guys....
THe rock shed in Pakuranga always have cover bands on friday night. Of course the word GOOD may not apply....
Some good points of playing covers in a cover band are, they help develop a technique, depending on the kind of music you're playing. After all, as a youngster, I always wanted to play the drums 'heavy metal style, and learnt techiques of people I admired back then. I ended up joining a cover band in my late teens, thinking this was the shit. It was back then, but it helped me realise where I am today. I don't play the style I once did, but if it wasn't for then, I wouldn't be playing the band I am now...
Playing covers certainly helps you build confidence, but use it a a learning step only, and you'll realise what real talent is hidden under all color copies of other peoples music.
i know a good covers band (Johnny Fist) who seem to like what they do. they cover 50s and 60s rock 'n' roll mostly, dodgy stuff by Eddie Cochran, Chuck Berry and the usual suspects like Bowie, Cash, Elvis, Beatles etc. they take these dodgy rawkus wee tunes and really make them their own - no obvious reinterpretations, but make them a bit more shreddy (i guess that comes from having played them many times over in many venues over NZ). but the songs they are working from are such a great basis that no matter where they go, people of all ages recognise the tunes and really enjoy them, despite the lyrics changed and the roughness reinserted.
my band Onanon went on tour with them recently, and it was a really good line up - a wee Dunedin-sounds originals band supporting a big, instantly recognisable, dance band. a good time had by all.
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Johnny Fist was pretty bad ass, I enjoyed them
Hiya,
I've played in cover bands since I was in high school (I'm 31 now - faarrk) and its great.
Firstly, its a good way to develop a range of playing styles, ie good for actually being able to play well on your instrument.
Secondly, its good money (I guess that depends on how good the band is ) so I should say you can *potentially* make good money ...
And if you are keen on working full time as a musician it can really help having a 'money gig' to subsidise the 'creative gig' or original stuff you're working on.
I'm in a few covers bands, the main one being THAT 80s BAND - 80s pop covers (all the really bad ones - Bon Jovi, Culture Club, Wham, Duran Duran etc) and I have to say that we have had some wicked gigs - so fun seeing everyone remembering the songs they were in high school with. (Well, I am 31)
Anyway, so I guess it depends what you're in it for, but I've found it to be a cool money spinner, and fun as well.....
(except for playing in guitar in a sequenced band (no drums or bass - just me & 2 singers) in the old Bull and Bear to like, 3 people.. uuggghh
Cheers
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what a old fart! Lol
why are you so annoying?
anyway, what's more offensive?
an old fart, or a young shit?
Tell us about the music & bands *you've* played in, kittenthlyer!
Just curious....
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im not in a band dude :P
Oh, ok. a spectator.
yep, a groupie
The Pamela De Barres of this site.
aha, i see.
Mind you, in relative terms, I *am* an old fart, so I can't argue with that....
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Dude, I'm in a band, but I'm trying to start up a side-project covers band with my geetarist, and the drummer and singer from our sister band. It's gonna be 'let's cover random songs and turn them electro-rap'. Electro-rap will be the new The Datsuns.
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This whole breakdancing revival is bringing back some real cool old school rap, like Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five, Scorpio, Electric Boogaloo, Freakazoids, etc..... Shit, I even heard " The Smurf " by HH the other day...I'm just waiting for the re-release of the BeatStreet soundtrack....