Yeah I got chucked out of a Supergroove gig about 10 years ago at The James Caberet in very similar circumstances, it pissed me off 'coz i'd just peeled some young dude off the floor under the mosh so he wouldn't get killed and was using th estage to climb out and drag him with me, and the fuck head little nazi guard chucked us out.

I think most of them have some kind of power trip "i'm too dumb to be in the police force" attitude, not good enough to be in the band, too inarticulate to be a critic and unable to walk with out knuckle protecters.

yeah....you should maybe stop trying to lick people's bass guitars :)

Dude, let it slide.

k, i maybe mistaken, but i mean, i played that night... i even had some crazy mofo jump up and grab my bass... yet, i wanted to sit on the stairs... and some dickhead is like "you arent allowed there, fuck off" im like, "dude, im playing tonight, can i sit?"... "your not allowed there, fuck off".

shud i not be allowed to sit on a stair?

And I think the moral of the story is, 'don't try to lick a musician's bass'. It's unsanitary and will result in you being forcibly removed from the premises.

Of course, the question begs, why would anyone want to lick a musician's bass in the first place? I mean, you've no idea where it's been for a start. In addition, sure security personnel can be royal arseholes on occasion, but when you consider the royal arsehole they're expected to deal with as a matter of course, you can perhaps forgive them for being a little intolerant every now and then.

We were playing at The Cross last month and there was this one security guy, not violent or menacing in any way but just a general plonker. He ID'd a friend of mine when he came in, my friend walked over to us and then 2 minutes later the security guy was over and asking him for ID again!?!

Later that same night I was sitting with my (now ex)girlfriend who's 21 and her friend who's also about 21. The same security guy came over and asked us all for ID. I didn't have any (my wallet was stolen at the start of the year and I haven't replaced my license but I'm a young looking 27) so after checking the girls he asked me outside. When we got out he said that I wouldn't be allowed back in to which I replied that I was the drummer for the second band and walked straight back in. I just thought to myslef IDIOT!! I guess he was just doing his job but numerous people were asked more than once for ID and he spent all night running around talking into an ear/mouth piece... why does the airport need to know what a bouncer at the Cross is doing hahaha....he...hehe... nevermind.

Yea, i know a few bouncers around town, but that guy at the cross is indeed a munter

in the gutter? thats dreadful!! i mean fair enough they're trying to keep people safe but REALLY thats a bit uncalled for!

Hope they have good bouncers at the pacifier gig this weekend. im pretty sure they will be well behaved. if they aint, ill have a word with them.

I agree that over zealous security is an issue. A few years ago at a Superjesus gig I got dragged off the floor and dumped outside...for crowd surfing, so maybe that was fair enough. But the fucker pretty much had me in in a choke-hold-like headlock. Obviously too much WWF (or WWE) for that man! Anyway, it wasn't painful or dangerous or anything (I think falling to the floor at the end of the surfin' crowd hurt more), but being man-handled in such a way was completely uncalled for. Boo to bouncers.
On the other hand though, at bars they're usually the coolest guys, so why are the guys who bounce gigs so dumb? Like at Ben Harper, my mate lights up a ciggie, and then this fat-ass "guard" comes up and pulls it out of his mouth and shakes his head. Hard man! So what about all the people smoking dak during 'Burn One Down'? He was probably smokin' up wit' dem!
I reckon it's probably to do with gig security being so temporary, not like bouncing the same bar every night. Maybe bands should get their own security, like Motley Crue did. Heh, funny that their former bodyguard actually is a wrestler now, unlike that dude at Flashbacks who though he was!

Also I agree with the kittenslayer sentiment expressed by daisygina!

Yeah, ciggarettes are stupid, it's true. But it was just the way he went about it. There was no "please put that out" or "you can't smoke in here", it was 'grab the fag, and lucky I don't smash you for it!'. Dickhead.
That reminds me of a punk gig at the James Cab, I think it was MXPX, and anytime someone jumped on the front of the stage to do a dive (as you do at such a show), if the guard could reach him/her in time they'd just shove them off, who cares where they land, or on whom. (Actually then there was this dude who jumped off the speaker stack, and everyone moved out the way, that was pretty funny!).
Hmm, I can't deny that they're not all bad, usually I don't even notice them. But when I do, it's because they're throwing their weight around. Yeah they're meant to be there to keep things safe for everyone, but surely that includes the people who are supposedly being 'dangerous'?
Still, much to be said for the guards who pull the little girls out of the front row before they get trampled to death.