So just as i was thinking how nice Salmonella dub was for giving away free bonus disks with every preorder of One Drop East, I find that virgin/emi have "copy controlled" the latest release.
Which means
I can't play it on my locked down desktop (PC).
I can't copy it to my mp3 player
I haven't tried it in the car yet, but I'll be slutted if it does n't work.
Has anyone else struck these problems.?
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Copy Controlled cds crash windows media ...
Copy Controlled cds crash windows media player after the second track, and don't work on the regular cd player feature of my pc, but iTunes loves them and can import and burn them just as quick as any other cd.
I've found the Copy Control CDs I've ...
I've found the Copy Control CDs I've imported into iTunes have all had weird crackling/scratchy noises over the songs - even though the CD is in perfect, unscratched condition - they kinda make the sound you get when you put an mp3 cd into a stereo and try to play it (not that I've ever done that...my,uh, mate did that once...really)
Of course, most Mac products I've used are pieces of shit anyway, and it may just be my machine.
It's horses for courses - the actual ...
It's horses for courses - the actual cd tracks have errors in them that most CD players can correct while playing. CD-ROM drives are a bit more fickle - some will play perfectly, some with pops & scratches and others won't work at all.
The Player program that comes with EMI cds is a bit funny too. The Radiohead one plays in my work machine no problem. The one on the Thrills CD uses 100% of the CPU and I can't really get anything else done while listening. The one on the Ceasars album crashes with a C++ error message.
The consumer guarantees act says you can take a copy controlled cd back and get a refund if it doesn't play. And you can let EMI know about your problems too.
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i found that copy controlled CDs will ...
i found that copy controlled CDs will churn and crackle, but importing via iTunes gets rid of the crackle ... so far so good anyway.
recently i've been putting all my music on my first generation iPod. bloody hell it's great. i've currently got 5 days of continuous music in my pocket. fark. heavenly, striding along Cumberland St to very very very very very loud Able Tasmans Bailterspace 3Ds Clean Headless Chickens Chicane Bats Beastie Boys Beck Blur etc etc etc etc.
so you gave in to the Radiohead CD, eh ...
so you gave in to the Radiohead CD, eh Joe?
How about this guy in Australia?
paranoia = we are screwed
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Cleanie - how much did the iPod set you ...
Cleanie - how much did the iPod set you back? Worth the cost?
As much as I dislike Macs I am ...
As much as I dislike Macs I am seriously considering buying an iPod.
[ http://www.apple.co.nz/ipod/default.html ]
yup...my gf is heading to japan for a ...
yup...my gf is heading to japan for a short holiday soon, she ain't coming back in the house without an i-pod.
// my gf is heading to japan for a ...
// my gf is heading to japan for a short holiday soon
!!! grrr. Japan rules.
Blink...WHERE THE HELL ARE THE ...
Blink...WHERE THE HELL ARE THE ALHs?!
You're bustin ma balls, mac
sorry dude....i've sent you email. my ...
sorry dude....i've sent you email. my bad.
//how much did the iPod set you back? ...
//how much did the iPod set you back? Worth the cost?
i managed to get it cheapo - $595 - but it was a first generation iPod, lacked a few bells and extraneous whistles of the 2nd gen ones. so worth it - we've been plugging it into mixing desks at gigs, people's PAs and stereos/parties over the holiday season - all thru the headphone jack. sweet. and i really need the harddrive space, and the bus timetable - i farking hate handbags or crap in my pockets, so yeah, the 'Pod's become my auxiliary brain.
booyah. I want one:...
booyah.
I want one:
[ http://www.apple.com/ipodmini/ ]
I am now holding out for the mini ...
I am now holding out for the mini i-pod, if the rumours are true.
i-pods aren't small enough for you ...
i-pods aren't small enough for you already stefan?
they're so ridiculously overpriced now thanks to them being the trendiest thing since umm.. Kelly Osbourne... I still want one though.
relevant link below
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what I meant to say was, they're gonna ...
what I meant to say was, they're gonna REMAIN ridiculously overpriced due to their recent 'hipness'. but I must have one. I MUST
dude I'm not sure if it is in ...
dude I'm not sure if it is in reference to the size or the storage capacity but the mini i-pods hold less thus are cheaper thus affordable and really do you need all the space of a conventional i-pod?
I'm not sure if it'll be the same ...
I'm not sure if it'll be the same type of disc that made headlines a while back, and I doubt you're willing to do this, but one of the big copy protection cds they came up with last year could be bypassed by scribbling on the outer track with a Vivid marker :)
Has anyone actually tried this? I ...
Has anyone actually tried this?
I don't want to stuff the disc if I'm going to return it..
if the vivid don't work spray the ...
if the vivid don't work
spray the disk with a bit of deoderant and quickly wipe clean
copy protection is futile if it ...
copy protection is futile
if it produces any audible noise, it can be copied.....it just takes an hour or so instead of a couple of minutes...
ironically the copy protected cd's will often work in computer drives, but not CD players...
Try this ...
Try this link:
http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/answerstips/story/0,24330,3426623,00....
This program can bypass the copy-control, not sure if it's entirely legal but if your copying a cd you own I guess it's not too immorral.
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It's not illegal to copy CD's. Nor is ...
It's not illegal to copy CD's. Nor is it illegal to run programs on your computer. (Most of the time.)
and I thought salmonella dub were a ...
and I thought salmonella dub were a bunch of idiots _before_ this. here's another interesting way to "crack" sony's copy protect shizzle (Warchild kinda beat me to it, but here's a URL)
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theu will alwas try but never stop ...
theu will alwas try but never stop copying.
Maybe the problem is your atempt to ...
Maybe the problem is your atempt to copy it in the first place.
They put in the effort to come up with an official release and peple just want to rip it off.
Oh no your mates won't be able to get it from you for $2 (don't pretend that's not the intention).
Boo Hoo. How unfortunate for you.
The problem is they don't play in ...
The problem is they don't play in anything apart from a proper cd player ... and sometimes they don't play in them. It's stupid - it only encourages copying, so you can make a copy that will play in your car, discman, etc.
rdor, pull your socks up boy & wipe ...
rdor, pull your socks up boy & wipe that brown stuff of your nose.
but as a purchaser, we actually have ...
but as a purchaser, we actually have the right to make a copy for ourselves for our own use, whether that be for sitting on our work computer, our mp3 player etc.
might be about time that someone posted that Courtney Love rant about revenue from music and record company profits (though i'm not sure that it's so applicable today, especially in NZ).
//but as a purchaser, we actually have ...
//but as a purchaser, we actually have the right to make a copy for ourselves for our own use, whether that be for sitting on our work computer, our mp3 player etc.
Actually, that's not true. The proposed amendments to NZ's copyright laws will allow format shifting, but under current NZ law, making *any* copy of a recording, even if it's for your own personal use, is illegal. Not that I think anyone really cares, which is one of the reasons the law is being amended.
i think i'm thinking that what applies ...
i think i'm thinking that what applies to software applies to music then. which it doesn't. NZ is a bit behind the times then, i guess.
Funny you should mention that ...
Funny you should mention that "Iluvtheclean' this from there website
It is possible, just as with any software, that compatibility issues may exist with obscure hardware
So is it software? & therefore legally it can be backed up.
The files on the disk are data files as opposed to audio files, which in my limited legal knowledge, me thinks there be a loop hole.
Well it doesn't play in my car. ( ...
Well it doesn't play in my car.
( having just spent $600 bucks upgrading the shitty CD player I had, this kind of pisses me of.)
Thanks for the suggestions all.
Yesterday I got pretty fucked off by ...
Yesterday I got pretty fucked off by the fact I couldn't put a song on a mix cd I was making because of the goddamn copy protection. The cd won't play in my cd player, or my computer.... I can only listen to it at my friends house on their cd player which doesn't have a problem with the cd.... fucking waste of $30 if I own an album I can't even listen to at home
Take it back. Consumer Guarantees Act, ...
Take it back. Consumer Guarantees Act, it's not fit for the purpose for which it was sold.
So the consumer loses....they don't ...
So the consumer loses....they don't have the music they want
The artist loses...another sale lost
The consumer's already lost if they ...
The consumer's already lost if they pay $30 for something they can't listen to and then have to swallow it because you guilt tripped them about starving artists on the internet. If you knew beforehand that a CD wouldn't play in any of your CD players, would you buy it anyway?
If you don't take it back, the label wins.
That sounds kinda harsh, and I know ...
That sounds kinda harsh, and I know it's your thread and all - sorry. It would be better for me to have a solution of course, but what ends up happening here is that the copy protection gets trickier, the means to copy or play gets less accessible (technically trickier), and it's a pain in the arse for all. Wouldn't we be better off to make a stand on it now?
I agree with your points & I'm picking ...
I agree with your points & I'm picking EMI & the larger Virgin have gone through this in other countries.
The legislation Heather mentioned should fix this.
Unfortunately, it's EMI standing in front of the fridge & I want a beer.
//I'm picking EMI & the larger Virgin ...
//I'm picking EMI & the larger Virgin have gone through this in other countries.
Possibly. However, NZ is often treated as a bit of a testing ground. We were the first country to get the whole extra annoying microsatan encrypted registration process. I remember also talking to one guy late one night while drunk, who was saying that BPs rebranding is being trialled here for public reaction before they take it overseas. So it's possible they might be messing with us to see how we take it.
Copy protection pretty much works in ...
Copy protection pretty much works in reverse for, it basically encourages me to copy the CD straight away so that I can be sure it will work on all my CD/DVD players and computers...
I'm probably just showing my age here ... shuffle ... move walking frame forward ... shuffle ... but I remember when CDs had only been available in NZ for a little while and tapes were the dominant medium, any clown can copy a tape but no big fuss from the record companies ... but my main point is back then tapes (which most people bought) were $20 and CDs $30 which was reasonable since CD's were more expensive to produce but now CDs are cheaper than tapes ever were to produce yet they still cost $30, record companies are ripping us off big time. And this is with the recording process itself getting cheaper thanks to technological advances...
In my experience copy controlled CDs ...
In my experience copy controlled CDs actually encourage downloading.... people resort to downloading the tracks simply so they can get them to play on their computer or ipod. And they can justify it by the fact that they've already bought the CD anyway.
Copy controlled CDs are a knee jerk solution from an embattled music industry. They're penalising the people who are actually buying the product - they're actually pissing off the good guys!
You can't fight the evolution of technology by forcing people to revert back to older methods. The only way to win this game is to keep ahead of it . Dishing out penalties won't work because we the consumers won't put up with it, because we don't have to put up with it. To win our hearts and our wallets, the music industry simply needs to come up with something better than what's currently on offer.
You think this is bad , soon the music ...
You think this is bad , soon the music and movie companys will want all our hardware copy controlled.
New buisiness models are starting to appear as in Apples success with downloadable mp3z.
Still to expensive. It doesn't make sense to pay more for a whole cd of mp3 songs off the net than the
cd from the shop. Especially when they are not the same quality. May be a premium for brand new songs but old songs should be sold for a song.
Do they replace your songs if your hard drive crashes ? Can I play the mp3z in the player of my choice ? Can you pick what bit rate or encoder you want ? Can I get any song from the last 50 years ?
Can I burn the mp3z to cd? Are the mp3z portable
This is what we have now, it's hard to settle for less
Try this- Lite on or Plexter drive
Latest version clonecd, latest version EAC.
Copy with clonecd. Right click Audio icon set audio extraction to (Best,slowest)
Mount image in clonecd virtual drive
Extract tracks with EAC
I used a program called CDEX to rip the ...
I used a program called CDEX to rip the Pacifier Live album. worked like a charm.
the player than comes on the CD was bloody awful. it completely annihilated the sound quality. I really have no idea what the record companies think they're achieving other than alienating consumers
cdex is awesome, v. nice mr...
cdex is awesome, v. nice mr
"we dont need no water let the ...
"we dont need no water let the motherf..."
I bought Now That's What I Call Music ...
I bought Now That's What I Call Music 12 earlier this year mainly to test out the copy control on the CD.
The CD states that you need a CD, DVD player or a PC running Windows 95 or later, P2-233 and 64MB of RAM. The question is what if you have a slower computer than that or if you use Linux instead of Windows.
So that is why I decided to test out the copy protection on this CD. I found that when I insert the CD into computer Windows asks you to install software, the software is some audio player. I noticed the CD did not contain the .cda files that are normally found on the CD when you view the contents of the CD through My Computer instead just the files that for the player.
Next I tried ripping the tracks to mp3 using MusicMatch JukeBox and I found the songs ripped with no errors and playing them back there was no noticable change in the quality of the song. I also tried the same using Windows Media Player 9 but this time ripping to WMA files and once again no noticable loss in quality. I then copied the whole CD using Nero Burning ROM and the CD copied fine but the player program was not on the copy of the CD. The copied CD could be played in my stereo just like the original. The only thing I didn't try was copying the CD to an XBox but I assume it would have worked fine.
The question I have to ask is whether a warning stating there is copy protection on this CD was just put there because this CD does not appear to have any copy protection.