Man I'm sure some of you noticed Fud battling off idiots in the "NZ's best Bassist" thread, It kind of made me angry to see people (even seasoned veterans) hassle Fud when they probably havent even heard CMO's album >> not to mention everything else this genious bassist does/has done. I personally am waiting for CMO to get snapped up by a heavyweight Label because they are, in fact, AMAZING.
Anyone aggree/dissaggree?


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From what I've heard they're great ...
From what I've heard they're great (from the free downloads on there site), saw an interview with them on space, and they all seem like pretty good guys as well.
fud has a nice phaser, and he plays an ...
fud has a nice phaser, and he plays an 8 string bass i believe, with the upper 2 strings being fretless above the 12th fret. he has a beatiful ring modulator custom made by some dude, and a delay pedal set on some insane amount of feedback. and he uses all this, he does. ive seen him.
No phaser here. I don't know where you ...
No phaser here. I don't know where you guys think you're hearing phasers.
yeah it's a chorus! !! "nice mellow ...
yeah it's a chorus! !! "nice mellow sound"
fucking bad what ever it is.
disagree...
disagree
you seem to be all talk, you always ...
you seem to be all talk, you always knock him and his band, yet we never hear anything to prove your self... is there a place where we can hear you play?
idiot, do some research....
idiot, do some research.
After reading ur posts in NZ's best ...
After reading ur posts in NZ's best bassist we are all too aware of your tendency to dissaggree. I dont really know why you think cmo AREN'T amazing though. I am sure you could break it right down for us, I am also nearly certain that you wont.
gladly- the great thing about an ...
gladly- the great thing about an ensemble playing together is that you have 2 or more individuals serving the 'music' or 'piece' or 'song' or whatever you wanna call it- it's like one becomes part of a collective ego- the individual ego becomes secondary- the old 'whole is greater than the sum of the parts' thing- when playing- the members of cmo only serve their own individual egos
//the great thing about an ensemble ...
//the great thing about an ensemble playing together is that you have 2 or more individuals serving the 'music' or 'piece' or 'song' or whatever you wanna call it- it's like one becomes part of a collective ego- the individual ego becomes secondary- the old 'whole is greater than the sum of the parts' thing- when playing...
Lena, that's exactly the way we see our music, it's the sole reason we throw so much of ourselves at every song. I don't know where you got the idea that our material is self-serving from, you obviously don't know any of us even if you think you do.
If I had time to spare, I'd love to refute this comment in detail, plus many others you have made about us for reasons known only to yourself, but for now at least, I have more important things to do. Maybe some other time...
Andy.
C^M^O
[ http://www.cripple.co.nz ]
okay... maybe i'm wrong- ...
okay... maybe i'm wrong- sorry......... still- ¡¡¡arguing is fun!!! ¿ey?- fud & enema & i have had a blast
He is a fucking wicked bassist... and ...
He is a fucking wicked bassist... and he's lucky, coz he is sitting right on the line of being a bassist, not a show off. Lucky. Mind you, the ablum is cooool.
thank you sweetie...
thank you sweetie
when were they on space?!! I farkin ...
when were they on space?!! I farkin missed it!!!
last friday (the most recent one)...
last friday (the most recent one)
no wonder, i was out watching "tears of ...
no wonder, i was out watching "tears of the sun" a good movie too!
Cripple would be allright if they had a ...
Cripple would be allright if they had a normal bassist and bearable lyrics.
What is it exactly that you find ...
What is it exactly that you find unbearable about my lyrics?
Just out of interest really, 'cos if you don't like them, that's just too bad, ay bro... Can't please everyone.
[ http://www.cripple.co.nz/lyrics.asp ]
You have nothing to say, my mate says ...
You have nothing to say, my mate says she met you and you were kinda shy, didn't talk much.
You lyrics are noticeably bad, there is no theme, no vision>> and hey no-ones ever hears what ur saying (screaming(good scream btw andy)) at a gig so who cares.
I'm curious. When did you stop raving ...
I'm curious. When did you stop raving about us and start slagging us off? Was there some monumental disaster you befell at our hands that has since turned you to a path of indignation? Or did you just wake up one morning and say to yourself "I think I don't like CMO anymore"?
Because you've posted some very positive stuff about us in the past, and you obviously LOVE Rene, so what's the story? Have we offended you in some measurable way? Or are you just having a wee hissy fit at us for no reason?
You say a friend of yours met Andy once and said he was kinda shy. That's hardly cause for outcry, is it. If you ever come to any of our gigs I think you'll find that we're all very approachable, so introduce yourself. We're not going to bite.
So instead of just masturbating in front of your computer in between Counterstrike games and CMO bitch-slap sessions, why don't you redirect your energy into something more positive. Because you're getting boring, Ron. Boring as all fuck.
so boring in fact that you (God of ...
so boring in fact that you (God of Confused bassists) actual blessed us with your presence.
Go for it Fud, show THE WORLD who you are, give it your "all".
When you do make sure to notice what the critics say, especially regarding your astonishing style.
and for THE last time, my posts are pure assistance to ur type.
So basically you're saying you don't ...
So basically you're saying you don't like my lyrical style, and the meaning in my writing is lost on you. There are plenty of other people who can relate to the "theme and vision" in what I'm saying who have told me the exact opposite of what you're trying to.
That's ok with me man, you don't have to like everything about what we do, but I'd ask that you respect the fact that music is, to a musician, an extremely personal journey - telling someone that the music that comes from within themself is shite is basically like saying that they are.
If there's a suggestion you have to make, then make it constructive, don't waste your creative energy dissing someones sound, of all things... What's so offensive about a bit of chorus that you just can't get past, anyway? I've been playing in bands with Fud for over ten years now, I've seen him move from what may have been the type of technical focus you're all accusing him of having now, to what I consider to be a strong emphasis on "the song"/"the music". Slap ruckus is used where appropriate, not gratuitously, along with the rest of his array of technique, to create degrees of light and shade. If you're still coming to our gigs, try to listen to it that way.
It's much more rewarding to find things you like about something than looking for things to dislike bro... Or if there's something you just can't get around to liking, and you feel you have to say something publicly about it, at least do Fud the courtesy of backing up your statements with some kind of reason. You seem to be of the opinion that you're doing him some great favour by dissing him like this, maybe you could explain to nzmusic.com readers how this is supposed to work? Or at least explain to us all why your opinion is so much more valid than everyone elses...
It's not such a shit-hot world to be in, why make it worse by flinging negativity all over the place?
[ http://www.cripple.co.nz ]
Fud & Andy, I wouldn't give a rats ...
Fud & Andy, I wouldn't give a rats arse what some paedophile with a name like Ronald,or that Troll-face Lena O, has to say.
They are a bunch of tiny insignificant fuckwits.Fuck them.
odometer's right- when you defend ...
odometer's right- when you defend yourselves it looks like you really worry about what other people think- so don't- if you get criticized either ignore or give them the unsubstantiated finger
I'd say the cmo lads do care much ...
I'd say the cmo lads do care much about what others think but this is a thing which will serve them very well as they will grow to suit as many punters as they can.
So i wish you fellows all the best at your great journey. I will follow your carreer with zeal. Ronald James will be watching, listening, reading, moshing. Ever hoping for some glint of magic to spark and ignite. I have little doubt that cmo = success. But i will be there at the end.
go cripple, lose fud, the guitarist, ...
go cripple, lose fud, the guitarist, get bekonstyn back together, and voila.
I've become a huge fan of CMO in the ...
I've become a huge fan of CMO in the last month or so. I bouth their album of the strength of there free downloadable songs and I've sent them e-mails with a few things I persoanlly didn't like/expected to be different or thought they could improve.
These were just my opinions and I sent them direct to the band.
In public, I'd like to say that I really enjoy the poetic lyrics, particularly in "Sleep of the Dead" and "The City." While most of the songs don't portray events or journeys they have an emotional story or image to give to the listener.
As to technique, heavy is great and if you are technically proficient at some particular 'move' or sound, then why not use when you feel it's appropriate? That's like saying a bird is a show-off and should be carefully catching bugs from the branches with it's wings instead of using them to soar.
In closing, I want Cripple Mr Onion in Auckland by November (after that, I'm moving to Palmy)
Aaron
*Suffering withdrawl symptoms* I ...
*Suffering withdrawl symptoms*
I left Chronocide in Auckland!! I've been Cripple-less 4 3 whole weeks,they don't have any copies here in Dunners,cos i brought the last one and sent it 2 a mate in Japan :o(
Is the dux gig still on 4 the 29th?...
Is the dux gig still on 4 the 29th?
is there album out?!...
is there album out?!
//I left Chronocide in Auckland. You ...
//I left Chronocide in Auckland.
You can buy my copy if you want.
You got a Mate in Japan that's into ...
You got a Mate in Japan that's into Cripple! wow thats so cool. Tt would be cool if cripple cracked the asian market -->> even just the new zealand asian market!
Long story short,A Japanese friend of ...
Long story short,A Japanese friend of mine on my course last year was a big Rock/metal freak.
Anywayz,She got a tatoo done by Renè,So i sent her a copy of Chronocide recently for her birthday.Along with Caburys Chocolate,and a Maori bone carving necklace...So they were all home-grown Kiwi presents!
I had the older version without Aaron's Guitar tracks,So i'll get the newer one next time....Yea i f**k'in left it in Renee's (Tadpole Renee) cd player,Dang it!....
Old (right) Hand and pooflaps make a ...
Old (right) Hand and pooflaps make a suitable couple don't ya think?
*shudder*
so who is fud? And whos the angry ...
so who is fud? And whos the angry member of cmo thats in this thread? And i am a asian who loves metal and rock music.
Fud is the bassist. None of the band ...
Fud is the bassist.
None of the band members are angry (well atleast not abusive angry).
I am not asian.
Cripple use great grammar.
I love one sentence answers.
Cripple are awesome. Come to Nelson!...
Cripple are awesome. Come to Nelson!
i don't see why the band members are ...
i don't see why the band members are so upset about some homo boy's gay and imature comments. Why waste the effort? I just heard "6 days of silence* on pc today, it's awsome!!!
It's a pity people seem to always open ...
It's a pity people seem to always open their mouths before having anything useful to talk about, or any real authority with which to comment on.
Hi, I'm Satan's Soundman, and I'm an alco.. uhh.. Sound Engineering.
leno o/Ronald James:
Until you've been on the desk end of what these guys can do with their instruments, you'd be smarter to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid, than open your mouth and prove it.
From the gigs I've done thus far, listening to each solo'ed track out of the mix, most of what these guys put out in a performance could go straight to tape without edit, and make a rather beautiful recording. If you two had ears, a copy of the album, or experience of their live set, you'd find that they're (in my professional opinion) the most talented, and tight band in their genre (?) in Christchurch, strong contenders in anything I've heard in New Zealand. They come to each gig totally polished, not like alot of the stupid bands I've seen around the South Island in the last few years.
As far as Fudd's playing goes, you'll find that he's the whole package. His setup is professional, as is his attitude, presence, and playing. If you're jealous of his skills, get off the computer, go practise some more. You'll find that each of the members in Cripple Mr. Onion are accomplished musicians in their own right, and they work perfectly together for their main common purpose - the music. There's no 'I'm so fucking great' when you come up and talk to them, they're as humble as the best of them.
As far as egos go, they're all good to talk to. If anyone is 'unapproachable', it's because most people are intimidated by their skill. I was to start with. What was that about someone approaching Andy, and Andy didn't talk much? Haha.. not fucking likely, I'll put money against that. >:)
lena o - someone 'defends' themselves against attack as a natural instinct. It's the person who is 'attacking' that should be looked at - most schoolyard bullies are mean to smaller children because they have issues with insecurity.
Ronald James - you don't appear to have made any real constructive 'point' in any of this, so there isn't any foot to stand on about it all being 'pure assistance'. And the point about 'pleasing the punters'? They're not a cover band, they're not sellouts. They're doing what they enjoy doing, are doing it well, and are pleasing an ever growing group of people who have an ear for something outside of the box.
wooohooo u go gurl!!!!...
wooohooo u go gurl!!!!
the quote is- better to close your ...
the quote is- better to close your mouth & be thought a fool, than to open it & remove all doubt- you - in a 'professional' & 'authoritative' sense- should have followed it
ronald james appears to be sick of ...
ronald james appears to be sick of fud's arrogance, you can defend yourself far more effectively by not responding to criticism with "i can play better basslines than you, dare you to learn them, nyaahh nyaahh", "i earn 40000 just to teach bass" (note that any other self-respecting musician would say "i teach bass to the kids because i love it") or "go back to masturbating between CS sessions"
from what i can see, fud needs an ego check, i admire him in the respect that his playing style would have taken a lot of practice, but it's probably not too difficult to guess his influences
here's the thing, in order to become great, you need to stop believing you're good, there is ALWAYS room for improvement in the arts, it's fucking arrogant to assume that someone that's been teaching bass longer than he's been alive would have trouble learning his tool meets mr bungle basslines
fud, this is not meant to be an insult - this is just a bit of criticism based on what i've read on the forums ... confidence is where you know you can do it, arrogance is where you tell everyone
//They come to each gig totally ...
//They come to each gig totally polished, not like alot of the stupid bands I've seen around the South Island in the last few years.
ah.. but what have they been polishing dear warchild?
and these unpolished bands you speak of... any names? ...please?
Thank GOD! Batbat, I thought you'd ...
Thank GOD! Batbat, I thought you'd abandoned us forever. Welcome back! I'm not even being sarcastic!
Blah Blah Blah.....What a bunch of ...
Blah Blah Blah.....What a bunch of babble.
If I had Fud's Musicianship,I too would be stroking my ten-pound pussy ego.
the thing is aenima, there are heaps of ...
the thing is aenima, there are heaps of people out there with plenty of musicianship, musicianship for africa, and they don't feel the need to tell everyone every 5 seconds (well sometimes tongue-in-cheek), but that's just integrity
something i'd really like to ask fud ...
something i'd really like to ask fud actually, given the great big shitstorm of late ... hmm ... there are a few questions to be honest
1 - where does your music come from?
2 - what would you say your weaknesses are?
3 - how do you honestly feel about the criticism that you've come across on these forums?
4 - do you think you're close to perfection or do you acknowledge that the road to artistic completion is endless and full of detours and possibilities?
fud, i'm just interested, not trying to start up another hissyfit thread
other people - if he answers, please show some respect! no inflammatory comments please
Sigh. The trouble with these forums is ...
Sigh.
The trouble with these forums is that it is so easy for one's words to be misinterpreted by someone else and end up coming away looking like a right gimp. So I'm not even going to try to defend my actions or words anymore, it's all falling on relatively deaf ears.
Suffice it to say that no, I will not answer your questions on a public forum and leave myself again wide open to the relentless and somewhat misguided attacks by certain members of this forum who may have a differing viewpoint. Because, like zhub, I haven't the time.
So if you genuinely care about my opinion and want to hear what I think, why not email me. Or come to one of my gigs and ask me.
By the way, I like the art on your site.
[ http://www.cripple.co.nz ]
mr fudd. when u used to play the bass ...
mr fudd.
when u used to play the bass guitar in your band
i remember u used to wear a cape, with a big symbol on it.
what did that symbol represent to u? i remember thinking it looked japaneasey...
also about the same time you had looong hair,
was the removal of both these elements (cape/hair)
from your show
forced, coincedental, related, ..?.. what im really asking
is: does the departure of those aspects represent
a spiritual shift regarding your music?
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LOL It wasn't a cape, it was a really ...
LOL
It wasn't a cape, it was a really big shirt. The chinese characters said "my big shirt".
Getting rid of the long hair was more of a health issue. You know, you swallow it accidentally one day, then you do it more and more, then before you know it you've got a bezoar the size of a fist.