who gives a shit about the drummers!!! As long as they do as they are told like good lil bitches!!!

he he he, just kidding, i respect drummers. E.g. Danny Carey, Lars Ulrich, Travis and joey jordson

and spell Jordison right please

//Of course, I happen to be in love with a drummer who happens to have a Psychology degree, so maybe I'm biased.
(cogs turning) OT, but I think I may have just put a face to the name... OK, were you at Float last thursday?

RE: "...Drummers center-stage..."

Trans-Am played a show at Bodega not so long ago, and their drummer was set up right at the front in the middle. Same with Shellac, they played at a Vic Uni Orientation show with HDU a few years back and had the drummer set up front and center. Awesome, especially since their drummers are so visually interesting (anyone remember that trail of drool seeping from the corner of the Shellac drummer's mouth?!) ...

Buddy Rich has been voted best Drummer ever over and over again (John Bonham close second)
and man I think You'll find its ElviN Jones.
Drums are allways the first thing I notice when listening to or seeing a band.
A great drum sound+performance can turn a very bad song into a hit.

don't forget Mitch Mitchell either

they are drumming's GODS!!

Bro, how could I have missed Mitch?

And just to round things out a bit, Nick Mason (Pink Floyd) Clive Bunker (Jethro Tull) and Lee Kerslake (Uriah Heap) and if you think thats the end of the talent from the 60's grab a copy of the Woodstock video and take a look at Jimi's performance or Santana and the maniac drummers they both had with them.

True, but neither of those 2 made an impact on the Sixties, I love both their drumming but they weren't around during the time period in question, i've always dug Neil Peart as a drummer too, but again wrong time frame.

From modern time, 2 drummers who I really think fit the bill and would have easily cut it with the finest from the 60's, and this is complete bias on my part because i've had the priviledge of working with them both, would be Ryan Tregurtha, he played drums for MP for 5 years, full onmetal head but he also played drums for a Hip Hop outfit called Young And Ruthless, I think they got a second place in the Rockquest in about '96, he had an unbelievable style, I first saw him play when he was 17 and it just blew me away, the thing I most loved about him was his really eclectic taste for all styles of music and the way he could pull off the most technical pieces and still look as though he was about to go to sleep.
And the other is Matt Swain, he replaced Ryan in the MP engine room for 18 months, complete Keith Moon freak, and with that really loose, barely held together manic style that so many of the drummers form the 60's had, he's now playing drums for OdESSA, and his attack and attitude is still so much fun to watch, he's a true showman drummer, but just like Ryan an expert in knowing when NOT to play.

Maybe we should start anther thread for modern drummers who we think will leave a lasting mark on the music world just like the names we've mentioned in this current thread.

never thougfht much of mitch mitchell- neither does he now of his work in the 60's- too busy- rethink nick mason- he was- & is- atrocious- amazing the fink ployd were good despite that fact- he just had NO life in his musicianship- relisten to dsotm & imagine bonham on the throne instead

prisonsex/kittenslayer you know shit about music, so shut the fuck up ok??

OK Kittenslayer, maybe it's time you went and read the forum rules...

Anyway back to the topic, fair call gramps, as a guitarist I can see where you're coming from, there does seem to be a regretable lack of real talent amongst the 6 string fraternity these days, Nirvana did a great thing by killing the guitar hero, but it's time that someone re-introduced the melodic guitar player, I know personally when I play even the simplest pentatonic lead, or motif, young dudes look at me like it's some kind of hidden secret or forgotten magic, I often have to wonder what is there to inspire younger people to even learn the guitar these days, when I was learning it was all Satriani, Vai and Guitar Rock bands, players you could really look up to and say "yeah , I want to be that guy", this whole Nu-Metal bullshit craze and the lack of real playing ability that it has bred is such a drag.