judging from yesterdays attack in jakata, im seriously wondering if we New Zealand can wade out a terrorist attack, consider the factor that make us most prone.
1 - no air-combat wing how are we supposed to intercept a hijacked aircraft say gunna smash into the skytower or the beehive.
2 - New Zealands involvement in the war in afghanistan, hunting al qaida/taliban operatives in the gulf, as osama bin ;laden has clearly said - anybody fighting alongside the united states risks having there asses blown up.
3 - lack of realistic security in this country, the United states is more sophisticated in technology to fight terrorism.
my reccomendations to minimizing the risk of a terrorist attack, however "remote" the govt. would like us to think there is.
1 - scrap the kiwibank, Ministry of Economic Development, Modern Apprentiships Scheme, Police Drug Squad units, New Zealand on Air and Sell half of TVNZ. Selling these bureaucratic scams, should at least fund 5 or 6 sophisticated fighter aircraft to defend NZ from a september 11 style attack in NZ.
2 - initiate a 4th branch of the defence force - winston peters has been cl;aiing for the formation of a maritime focussed defence unit a marine corps. this is probably the only policy of NZ firsts i agree with.
3 - get that dude who makes cruise missiles to sell them to the govt. so if we are attacked we have something to initiate self-defence with.
if there was to be a terrorist attack - however remote the possibility -and helen clark just stood by and didnt fight back, then id expect riots in the streets prompting an early election i can expect Winston Peters our Next PM if so. Parents, its time to send your 7th form sons into the army for 2 years.
2 - stset up a Homeland Security
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// 1 - no air-combat wing how are we ...
// 1 - no air-combat wing how are we supposed to
// intercept a hijacked aircraft say gunna smash into the skytower or the beehive.
Sam, you might have noticed the jakarta attack was undertaken by a TRUCK, not a plane. Other than the Sep 11 attacks, the use of planes as terrorist weapons is not the norm, and, considering the security measures put in place after that day, unlikely to happen again. And besides, the strongest Air Force in the world didn't manage to stop the New York/Pentagon attacks anyway, did it? (And it'd be a pretty snappy bit of flying to dive a plane into the Beehive as well, tucked away as it is between several buildings considerably taller than it.)
// 3 - lack of realistic security in this country, the United states is more
// sophisticated in technology to fight terrorism.
again, see Sep 11.
i KNOW it was a truckbomb noizy, im ...
i KNOW it was a truckbomb noizy, im only giving examples to what COULD happen in New Zealand without an adequate defence system.
and because we have a lazy scrot rot as PM ive taken a turn for my political beliefs - i now believe that We should reintroduce compulsory military service at the expense of PC scams that the current govt. seem to be so obsessed with.
Sam, I think the attacks in Indonesia, ...
Sam, I think the attacks in Indonesia, the USA, Morocco, Russia and elsewhere show that it doesn't matter what sort of armed forces you've got in place, but the types of emergency services you have that *really* count when the bomb goes off.
Nothing - neither a massive standing nor the world's most sophisticated figheter planes - will stop a determined terrorist with a home-made fertiliser truck-bomb.
// We should reintroduce compulsory military service
ah yes, like Israel. A sure-fire way to deter those terrorists.
...neither a massive standing 'army' ...
...neither a massive standing 'army' ...
that is.
Most idiotic post, ever....
Most idiotic post, ever.
All his posts are... but this does top ...
All his posts are... but this does top the charts.
Think Noizy summed it up nicely. Why ...
Think Noizy summed it up nicely.
Why would Winston become PM if there's a terrorist attack? It doesn't make sense!?
because New Zealanders will be angered, ...
because New Zealanders will be angered, pissed off and saddened if there where to be a terrorist attack, we have nothing to fight back with and there will be riots in the streets if clarkinsky doesnt strike back at the terrorists who destroy our very infustructure.
what will be the result?? an early election, the rise of Winston Peters and his almost certain victory. As far as im aware NZ first is the only party assuming NZ is attacked that will show the terrorists the very striking ability NZ we would have under a NZF govt.
Say what? Last time I heard, Winston ...
Say what? Last time I heard, Winston had about a 3% rating in preferred Prime Minister Ratings, and that was before Taxigate (oh come on, I HAVE to call it that, I work for nz media, everything's a "gate").
Sam, are all your posts actually done "ironically" ?
And in regards to NZ First having a ...
And in regards to NZ First having a terrorist policy, of course they do, because as we all know, Terrorists are Dirty Rotton Foreigners who don't look like us or even speak our language! Just look at the IRA, for instance. Oh wait...
//3 - get that dude who makes cruise ...
//3 - get that dude who makes cruise missiles to sell them to the govt. so if we are attacked we have something to initiate self-defence with.//
self-defence???
so what we fire the missiles at the wreckage of the plane that attacked us???
what the hell is the use of cruise missiles LS???
please explain...
and sending me to the rice fields isn't the way to deal with an argument
also can we grow potatoes instead, i prefer them more than rice...
dojnt worry your not going to the rice ...
dojnt worry your not going to the rice fields my son.
Cruise missiles are a useful tool to dfend our shores esp. how the labour party are a bunch of cock-sucking scrot rots and helen clark looks like a donkeys testicle with the voice of a man. (this is because shes downgraded an essential govt. function just to fund Bureaucratic PC nonsense (peoples bank, ACC, NZ on Air etc etc)
//Cruise missiles are a useful tool to ...
//Cruise missiles are a useful tool to dfend our shores esp. //
that doesn't answer my question...
hopw are they meant to defend us, against an invisble enemy, fire it off randomly and theres not a large chance of getting the bad guy you know
and fucking hell you didn't answer my most important question
POTATOES VS RICE
what does everyone else think???
cause a nice microwaved potato (those red skinned ones) chopped in half buttered up with a layer of cheese (colby) mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm damn they're good
// (this is because shes downgraded an essential govt. function just to fund Bureaucratic PC nonsense (peoples bank, ACC, NZ on Air etc etc) //
what are you on about??? kiwibank all the way man, its great, gives me better interest on my savings and better service than anywhere else, go jim anderton!!!
socialism for the masses!!!
> cause a nice microwaved potato (those ...
> cause a nice microwaved potato (those red skinned ones) chopped in half buttered up with a layer of cheese (colby)
colby cheese is a tool of the devil.
what about cheese in soup? im pretty ...
what about cheese in soup? im pretty sure i remember it being good, but stefan tells me NO! NOT IN SOUP!
what do you tell me?
> what about cheese in soup? im pretty ...
> what about cheese in soup? im pretty sure i remember it being good, but stefan tells me NO! NOT IN SOUP!
keep cheese out of pies. that shit is just wrong.
Stefan is a silly biartch. Cheese ...
Stefan is a silly biartch. Cheese belongs in everything.
A friend of mine who works in a dairy has just put in her notice to quit, and I have challenged her to see how much cheese she can smuggle out of that place in the next two weeks. I hope it's a lot.
cheese on everything, thanks...
cheese on everything, thanks
Today we had a staff meeting at work, ...
Today we had a staff meeting at work, catered by my young friend Britnee, who managed to smuggle a whopping 16 pounds of cheese out of the dairy today. I'm so proud of that girl. It brings a tear to my eye.
Thirteen days to go... How much more cheese can Britnee smuggle? Perhaps we should place bets. The winner gets... lots of cheese.
16 pounds is a lot is it? What's that ...
16 pounds is a lot is it? What's that using a sensible (metric) scale?
And you've gotta love it when a topic entitled "Evaluation of New Zealand Security" evolves into a discussion on the merits of cheese in different meals, and cheese-theft.
Mmm, cheese. Aged smoked cheddar. Yum.
//go jim anderton!!! Jim Anderton ...
//go jim anderton!!!
Jim Anderton screws cattle for crack cocaine
16 pounds is an insane amount of ...
16 pounds is an insane amount of cheese. More than one could sensibly carry on one's person. More, in fact, than one could logically put in a duffel bag. I have no idea how much it is in metric, noizyboy. Aren't you supposed to be the guy who figures things out?
So, it seems we've found a way to make poor sam's topics work against him: just turn them into discussions about cheese.
Sam's topics *are* cheese...
Sam's topics *are* cheese
16 pounds is approximately eight ...
16 pounds is approximately eight kilograms (I think a pound is about 600g but I'm not sure exactly. 2:1 generally works OK).
//colby cheese is a tool of the devil.
As is edam. Who wants 30% less fat with 100% less flavour?
And V., where do you find lasses who bring you cheese. Methinks I need one of these.
// Aren't you supposed to be the guy ...
// Aren't you supposed to be the guy who figures things out?
ah, yes. It was actually just an attempt to gently rib you about your nation's outdated measuring systems.
But I'd kinda zoned out on that 2:1 approximation before. So that means every time you hear about an American being 300+ pounds, they're over or around 150kgs? Bloody 'eck. No wonder these gigantic American Football players are dropping dead in the heat down there in the South, imagine lugging that sort of weight around a football field.
//rib you about your nation's outdated ...
//rib you about your nation's outdated measuring systems.
psh. I didn't create it. Heck, I'm all for metric. As for 300 pound football players dying in the heat, that was actually here in Minnesota.
Limegreen, if you want a young blonde cheese wench named Britnee, I suggest you find your own. I've only got the one, you see, and I need her for the cheese-bringing she does so well.
More like 2.2:1 I think. But 16lbs of ...
More like 2.2:1 I think. But 16lbs of cheese is a shit load to attempt to smuggle past the gate ... how do you hide that much cheese ... was it sliced ... grated ... and what type of cheese. Not that reolting orange coloured muck that is laughingly referred to as cheese. That has about as much relationship to a nice piece of stilton as Lucifer_sam's topics do to reality.
Speaking of cheese ... I love the mainland advert where the old (compard to me) chaps are making up "cheesy" rack star names ... like Bryan Edams ... but I cannot remmeber many of them ... excpet for the Beatles ... Grated Hits!!!!
I always try and burn some of those ...
I always try and burn some of those names on my brain, but the only one I can ever remember is Colby Stilton Nash. Heh.
Im with ya Sam. I was gifted with the ...
Im with ya Sam.
I was gifted with the seventh sight and I KNOW your concerns.
As for me, I must let nature take it course.
I am very glad that someone cares because it's quite important.
Eternal Vigilance
It seems nobody is concerned or cares ...
It seems nobody is concerned or cares about the security of there nation.
WHAT IF:
- your enjoying your daily bus ride to work when some masked scrot rot pulls out a 9mm, shoots 3 or 4 passengers, then takes control of the bus, parks it inside say the hotel intercontenetial and blows himself, passengers and the hotel up.
- your having as quiet drink at the pub or nightclub and some fucker detonates a bomb in disguise of a cellphone or some other everyday object inside the club and his "comrades" do the same outside as hundreds of injured and panicked patrons try to flee
- your at work in your office when a boeing 767 under hijacked command of extremists who managed to sneak there weapons through the airport screening and the plane smashes high speed into YOUR FLOOR. WHER EYOU WORK!!!!
if all this or other examples of terrorism happen in New Zealand then dont come running to me. what im saying is that this country doesnt take defence seriously and as ive said already - spends more money on taking care of bureaucratic taxpayer draining PC scams. for example KiwiBank, Ministry of Economic Development, LTSA, Police Goon Squads etc etc.....
and for the record, if i was the Spanish President - in the wake pof recent ETA bombings i will invade basque country with full and brute force - much in the way Bush done in afghanistan and sharon to palestine.
MAY GOD DEFEND THIS COUNTRY!!!!
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//It seems nobody is concerned or cares ...
//It seems nobody is concerned or cares about the security of there nation.
Noizyboy, head - meet brick wall.
Sam, the chances of any of those things ...
Sam, the chances of any of those things happening are infintessimal compared to the likelihood of getting hit by a car, drowning in a river, or choking to death on a chicken bone.
You can't walk around all the time worrying about it - that's what the terrorists are trying to achieve - they *want* you live in terror and fear. Just don't buy into it. If it does happen, then hell, tough cookies, wrong place, wrong time.
// Noizyboy, head - meet brick wall.
Hello wall.
//Hello wall. Pleased to beat you....
//Hello wall.
Pleased to beat you.
// if all this or other examples of ...
// if all this or other examples of terrorism happen in New Zealand then dont come running to me.
Damn, there goes my backup plan. I guess I'll have to load up on guns and build me a bunker now.
Paranoia Incoherent Grammatical ...
Paranoia
Incoherent
Grammatical errors
Spelling mistakes
Confused points
Lack of cohesion in argument
Samuel dark lord are you extremely hungry???????????
//WHAT IF: - your enjoying your ...
//WHAT IF:
- your enjoying your daily bus ride to work when some masked scrot rot pulls out a 9mm, shoots 3 or 4 passengers, then takes control of the bus, parks it inside say the hotel intercontenetial and blows himself, passengers and the hotel up.
- your having as quiet drink at the pub or nightclub and some fucker detonates a bomb in disguise of a cellphone or some other everyday object inside the club and his "comrades" do the same outside as hundreds of injured and panicked patrons try to flee
- your at work in your office when a boeing 767 under hijacked command of extremists who managed to sneak there weapons through the airport screening and the plane smashes high speed into YOUR FLOOR. WHER EYOU WORK!!!!//
well i'd dial 911 and ask for rambo, like the three little pigs did in that green jelly video which went by the name of "3 little pigs"
now rambo would take care of any nasty baddies, mark my words!!! he'd bring out those killer moves, and we'd be sweet!!!
//well i'd dial 911 and ask for rambo, ...
//well i'd dial 911 and ask for rambo, like the three little pigs did in that green jelly video which went by the name of "3 little pigs"//
That was my boys favourite song for a while ... along with the "B" side .. "Obey the Cow God" ... I think I still have the tape ....
you can't have it both ways sam. you ...
you can't have it both ways sam. you can't have all the personal freedoms you so frequently write about and have a country that's got water tight internal security. your personal freedoms will be the first thing to be eroded if anti-terrorism security becomes a focus - just look at what's starting to happen in the states. in fact all those posts about mustard gas etc you've made will probabaly make you a prime candidate for observation.
I recommend you either read up on those buddhist principles of yours and try putting them into practise or go join the peace corps or red cross or something - maybe someone out there could channel that fervour of yours to better use.
Sam, answer this question: in what ...
Sam, answer this question: in what circumstances do people (almost always) choose terrorism over traditional warfare?
//Sam, answer this question: in what ...
//Sam, answer this question: in what circumstances do people (almost always) choose terrorism over traditional warfare?
because terrorists know they can get away with it easier and they do not have a face-to-face enemy like in conventional warfare,
OK. So you say we should do ...
OK.
So you say we should do something about terrorism. You propose more military activity, such as compulsory military service.
Then you say the reasons people engage in terrorism rather than face to face warfare are
a) it's an easier option
b) they have no face to face enemy
If you give more people military training you make a) even more true, so you get more terrorism.
If you give more people military training you don't change b) one way or the other.
There has been a kill in the spirit ...
There has been a kill in the spirit world. New forces are amassing, dark forces.
sum pEopLE R trying to sleep but UNLUCKY :D :D :D :D :D
THen why do u support those ...
THen why do u support those palestenians then?!!!
Sam: are you for real? Are you really a ...
Sam: are you for real? Are you really a Hutt bogan who lives at home thinking up new ways to torture innocent people? Is your brain so frazzled by the chemicals at the bag factory that you think people are taking you seriously?
Or are you a figment of the imagination of a phsych student working on some kind of warped thesis? Or are you a robot sent from the future with a mission to bore the inhabitants of our time period to death with your inane posts?
And Noizy! For shame. Stop playing the ball. Play the man goddamnit!
// Stop playing the ball. Play the man ...
// Stop playing the ball. Play the man goddamnit!
hey, enought of that sort of talk. leave that type of play to the south africans.