cool- as they are putrescence personified

ah, my apologies, I was looking at the 2002 bnet nominations.

It could start getting quite difficult to work out where to draw the line though. How about if there were two people who'd been in different bands that were nominated? Is that OK? Or three? How about if all but one of the musicians have been nominated before, then they can put up the remaining member for the award? What if the member in the previous band didn't even have any songwriting or production credits, or doesn't in the new band, so their contribution may be considered a minor one? (no offense intended to band members who don't write songs; just suggesting it for arguments' sake)...etc

Although I totally agree it's pretty mean to pull Goldenhorse, I think the existing rule is probably the simplest solution for a category that's there to highlight new artists and bands.

// I just think a different band is a different band

So Zwan are up for a Best New Act award at this years Grammys?

and think about it- 'breakthrough' is the operative word here.

it's obvious it's breakthrough in ever manner and facet of the band

ZM has to add them to the playlist because they have sold over the required amount of records. THey might not always play them but I'm sure they have them added.

I don't think Goldenhorse really care about public recognition, they said so on Squeeze. Geoff was like at the end "It's kinda ridiculous the attention rock stars get". Ben was like "Well maybe when Fame hits me i might change my mind....."

it is so unfair!

Hey, me again ;]

I don't think it's so much that they want recognition as in needing attention, but if you're writing/playing good music then you should share it so more people can hear it and have a good old time and maybe find something new they never knew they liked ;) I mean the more well known you are, the more people are gonna hear your music.

And it's always nice to get recognised for working hard and doing a good job. Whether it's recognition like a Tui, or recognition that you've made someone happy by doing what you do, eg by hearing from some little 19 year old girl who goes by the name of Jemma, that Riverhead gets played on repeat to help her sleep at night. ;] (album on repeat, not song...that'd evoke some weird dreams) 0:)

bingo.

I can't recall which band it was, but watching the grammys a few years ago, the best new act award was won by a band who had put out several albums, toured the US for years, and were all in excess of 30 years of age. they seemed as baffled as anyone as to why they'd won the award. It was, of course, because they'd put out their first *major label* album that year.

That could be said of half the bands that win awards.

And "breakthrough" probably does mean breaking through to mainstream - which is what the govt and labels are pushing bands to do obviously.

Just cause a scriptwriter has been penning stories for ages, let's say, with his staple writing partner, doesn't mean that when their first motion picture is released they won't be hailed as the next big thing. I realise Trillion though, with his history of alternative music involvement, was likely to steer down this path. The Datsuns have been playing together for years, but if they win the Breakthrough Artist Award at the Tuis no one will be surprised - that is b/c it is justified in spite of their history as practicing musicians that this year has seen them and thus New Zealand move firmly into the spotlight.

i think *maybe* it was when ben was in heavy jones trio last year filling in until they found a perment bass player. and heavy jones trio have been nominated the last 2 years for best indie act, but have been beaten by rubicon *are rubicon indie? i didn't think they were*

Unfortunately Joel is no longer with Goldenhorse, but they have found a fine replacement in new drummer, Ben Collier.