Smoking

ok as many of you may not know i slipped up in my 4 month old "stop smoking attempt" 3 weeks ago and im smoking more than i did in October, i have set a date to quit smoking tobacco for 10pm Sunday March 16. my plan is no caffeine, meat or alcohol for 72 solid hours, frequent 3x per day at least exercising, plus after dinner swim, strict diet of vegetables, and to break the cravings if nessecary my miricle medicine - mother mary. Frankly being 23 in 2 weeks i reckon im doing meself a lot of good, and i regret starting up at 17. i was wondering does anybody have any other suggestions i could add that could helpme become a non-smoker again??? id help heaps, cheers and respec'

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you could lock yourself in a room and pee in glass jars for six months.....

and i doooon't know why i wrote that......*rocks back and forth*

keep busy!, don't give yourself time to think, cause then you may start thinking about ciggies, and tire yourself so when you go to bed, you basically fall asleep so then you dont have that little period where you think well you are trying to knock off at night.just dont let yourself grab another one, i know its alot harder than that, but thats what i did :).

also to anyone that maybe thinking of starting don't!. especially if you are really young like i was. not good

never ever smoked b4 in my life, and i hope i never do... but i went to this programme called Discovery that had heapsa ppl tryna give up and i picked up a few hints from there...

-play with blue tak :) (may sound weird, but it keeps ur fingers busy...)
-stay away from ppl who smoke, mite mean u hafta change ur whole social circle, but it makes it even harder to give up when all ur mates are still doing it around u.
-find other ppl who are giving up and spend heapsa time with them, will make it a whole lot easier :)
n e wayz, hope this helps...

oh yea, i just remembered, this isn't wholey related to the whole quit smoking thing, but it's enough to put anyone off sharing cigarettes.....

because of those glorious things called "cigarettes" four girls at my school are currently in hospital with suspected meningitis [two actually have it], which means - that if one more girl goes into hospital, then the whole school has to go onto antibiotics to kill the bug, which isn't an easy feat really...1200 + girls being issued with drugs....fun....i couldnt' donate blood on tuesday because of this - i've been waiting to donate for 2 months.

moral of the story: cigarettes suck. don't smoke them.

Hmmm. Maybe your battle with the shag explains some of your crankiness.

However, on more helpful note
- many people take more than one try to give up smoking. each time will bring you closer to your goal
- i don't know whether I'd play with bluetack, but finding a replacement habit is a good starting point. That's why lots of ex-smokers chew gum. Finding something to do with your hands, be it bluetack, a yo-yo, a voodoo doll, it's all good
- heaps of my friends have given up. it will happen : )

M theory is: The only way you'll ever give up is when you REALLY want to... it's easy to START quitting, but then you keep changing your mind - and then you think about it too much - then you need it more and MORE until your doing it twice as much!!!!! I gave up for three whole days to the second - then couldn't bare it anymore (not to mention my friend purposely blowing smoke in my face) The only thing that helped was the fact that my ex and his (boy)friend (swear they luv eachother) refused smoking within a metre of their house and i spent heaps of time there - but as i said AGES ago (sorry) it'll happen when your body FINALLY accepts the fact that it has to go without for once! :-)

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Thank Jesus for Mana!

I quit in August, after ten years of smoking. I just decided it was time. The first few days were kind of tough, but I got over it, and I'm at the point now where I can even go to bars and drink it up without wanting a smoke. Here's how I was successful:

1. As I said, it was time. I'd made the decision to be a quitter, and that was the most important step.

2. I went to my doctor and asked for her recommendations. She asked me questions about what type of smoker I was, and we outlined a plan together. She gave me a prescription for welbutrin (a xyban knockoff that was covered under my insurance plan). The welbutrin replaces the dopamine that nicotine supplies to your brain, making it like methodone for smokers. Make sure you get a 2 or three month prescription at least, so that it has enough time to build up in your system. It cuts the craving part, the physical addiction, and it seriously works.

3. Anyone who's a smoker knows, though, that it's not the physical addiction that gets you --it's the _habit_ of smoking, the oral fixation, the "I always smoke when I drive, and I'm in the car so I must smoke" kind of thing. It's the mental patterns we create around smoking that make it very hard to quit. So my doctor sent me off to a hypnotherapist (which isn't covered by my insurance, but luckily for me I have a good friend who does hypnotherapy and offered to do it for free). A good hypnotherapist will find out what your patterns are for smoking, and help build your resolve for breaking them. It may take 3 or 4 sessions, but it works.

4. Given all of this, there were still times when I just wanted a cigarette. After my quit date, I still had maybe two or three cigarettes a week for the first few weeks, but since I smoked menthols, it was easily replaced by cough drops or strong mints.

Well, that's the plan I used. Above all else, I'd recommend talking to your doctor and setting up a plan of action if you really want to be successful. Doctors generally want you to quit smoking, and will do everything they can to help.

I gave up smoking June 2000 after some 30 years of ciggies. Haven't had a smoke since. But it was not easy. The key is that you really have to want to give up ... I had tried to quit heaps of times before but had always fallen off the wagon.

I used nicotine patches to help get over the physical addiction ... you need to go the whole program to wean yourself off. The other thing to do is to somehow change your routine and/or environment. I was lucky that I was working in Oz for a few months when I quit. So a lot of the normal triggers were not present. But I guess that isn't always an option. But changing your routine is a big help. If you always wake up with a coffee and a ciggie (like I did) then switch to, say, Orange Juice. If you think about it you probably always smoke at around the same times or events. So a change of routine can really help to break the habit.

Good Luck

I tried to quit a few times. The I gave that shit up.

I've worked out that I just really like to smoke. So why would I deny myself this pleasure. The goods outweigh the bads at this stage - I may feel different when a lung fails... but I'll leap that hurdle when I come to it.

// but I'll leap that hurdle when I come to it.

...or perhaps crawl under it, gasping for breath. ;)

// ...or perhaps crawl under it, gasping for breath. ;)
Curled up into a wheezy ball of shame as the non smokers move in for the kill.

so true to all three above!! (what a crack up!! hahaha) yes - i know exactly what your saying NGE! i think one reason people say they'll quit is because all the non-smokers of the world (who are just as scary as hard core feminists (no offense to any) ) kinda of put the pressure on and make us feel a little guilty - but hey! a documentry the other night said it is more healthy to feel guilt than not to!! so enjoy (while you can...) i forgot to add earlier, that when i left my ex's place i'd almost go half a pack! hahaha

1) try an alternative like chewing gum everytime you wanna smoke.

2) i've heard putting tea leaves in smokes are enough to put people off smoking.

3) call the quit line

4) sign up to for "quit smoking" messages on your cell phone.

you have never ever smoked have you....heh

nope and don't intend to either. but i have heard of people who do smoke use these methods.

If you watch those quit line ads on tv, I think you'd be put off. They're awful. It seems when you ring up you'll be greeted in Maori (regardless of your language) and then talked to in a slow boring tone for the duration of the conversation.

But in regards to quitting, I don't smoke, but a mate of mine did. He met this really gorgeous, lovely girl and started going out with her. She said to him about a fortnight after they started going out that if he didn't quit, she'd leave him. It worked and he hasn't since then. Pretty harsh but it got him to stop.

// about a fortnight after they started going out that if he didn't quit, she'd leave him.

What a fucking bitch. Your friend is a sucker.

cheers ill try the tea leaves part.

//then talked to in a slow boring tone for the duration of the conversation

"iiiittttssss ooookkkaaaayyy tttttooooo nnnoooottt qqqquuuuiiiitttt ttthhheee ffffiiirrrsssttt ttttiimmee"
they must be confused and think youre secretly a stoner

use nicobreven. they cost $180 but work even if you don't want to stop. they take away all the shitty moods and craving that you get with quitting.

or you could just smoke pot insted.......

It is really hard to smoke 20 joints a day, man.

but imagine how much longer the day would last.. i dont know how long i could live life in slow-motion tho.

// It is really hard to smoke 20 joints a day, man.

Back in the day Eddie, i would of argued this one. heh

ive heard that pot can break the habit and addiction (psy. and psych.) to nicotine, ill use it medicinally and you dont have to smoke it either - eating it gives you a much stronger effect but yu may have to wait up to an hour for the THC to Take effect and if im caught, ill fight in in the volksgereicht (peoples kangaroo court)

//or you could just smoke pot insted.......

hah that would be amusing, walking through town with bong in hand, hah

// or you could just smoke pot insted.......

:D

A friend told me that smoking a joint is about as bad for you as smoking 12-20 cigarettes. Take Lucifer_Sam's advice and dig into the spacecake!

really?! shit thats imteresting....arent cigars ment to be liek 40?

// A friend told me that smoking a joint is about as bad for you as smoking 12-20 cigarettes //

not nessecarily true, you must remember that pot is used less often than ciggies and a joint weighs more than a cigarette, you got to remember that pot as a depressant drug does not harden and constrict the arteries like Tobacco a caffiene related stimulant does, pot can also (amazingly) reduce cancer cases in tobacco smokers - its been proven that those who smoke both tobacco and pot have less rates of lung cancer and heart disease than those who smoke only tobacco. and again pot can break the tobacco habit in recovering nicotine addicts, the only major side effect is the Geheime Staatspolizei.

If you ARE going to quit, I highly recommend the Nicotine patches. The only reason I recommend them is that they give you the most wicked dreams. Vivid and fucked in the head dreams. Very worthwhile.

They bring back the dreams that pot suppresses.

I tried the patches, and I would not recommend them. They burn your skin. I have tattoos on both of my shoulders, and so I put the patches on my hip. That was five years ago, and I still have little square scars on my skin.

And I have vivid, fucked in the head dreams all the time anyway. No need for chemical inducement on that.

This wasn't a problem for me. I think the key is to not put a patch in the same place each day. I tended to move them around left - right and front - back so that over a week or so I never had a patch in the same place. If you put them in the same place each time then yes you can get some problems.

//The only reason I recommend them is that they give you the most wicked dreams. Vivid and fucked in the head dreams.

Do you know if that works for non-smokers?!

// Do you know if that works for non-smokers?!

It probably does - but DO NOT TRY IT!!!

A friend tried one of my patches for the dreams... and we later realised that a nicotine patch is the equivalent to a pack of smokes worth of nicotine. He woke up in the middle of the night and vomitted for two hours.

Like when you smoke waaaay too many smokes and get ill... but waaaay worse.

i smoked for over 7 years.
for 3 of those years i was 20+ a day.

i don't wanna sound like an infomercial here but i read this great book called "Alan Carrs Easy way to stop smoking".

i didn't even believe that a book could cure me but i read it anyway and it reversed all the psychological conditioning that i'd been brainwashed with over the years.

for only 25 bucks from whitcoulls or where ever it's way cheaper than patches (which didn't work for me when i tried on them - though i agree with NGEddie that the dreams are pretty fuckin' ace).

it's a real easy read - you could finish it in a day if you were an average, motivated reader.

free yourself. don't be a slave to the nicotine demon.

How does this book tell you to deal with the horrible withdrawl symtoms?

That book is good. So many people swear by it. One of the best things about it is he says that it's ok to keep smoking while you're reading the book.

His advice for dealing with withdrawal symptoms is to not think of them as being horrible, but to think of them as a good thing, that you've just become a non-smoker and what a cool thing that is.

My dear ol' mum always told me : "don't be a quitter son"

*coughs*
*smirk*

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"rehab is for quitters."

Just Stop...NOW
I am serious.

Don't swap ciggies for pot, it doesn't work. (what happens when you have no pot.)
Don't be a loser, choose fresh air over stale & appreciate it.
Read about breathing & what good air does for you. Understand what you are getting out of the purity.
Clarity, energy, be refreshed. Drink good water, take multi vitamins & some extra Vitamin C.

How can a weed control you? You have a choice, if you can't beat the weed, how are you going beat all the other challenges you gonna face. Your bigger than that.

Sure all that repulsive imagery of rotting effective shrinking lungs is depressing, who needs that shit.
That just tells you where you don't want to be, but not where you do.
If you need to be depressed, have a look an any old smoker.
Decide today.

Get rid of all packets, say no thanks to friends who offer.
If drinking triggers, drink gingerbeer, if socialising triggers click you fingers to the music.

Who are you fooling by setting a date?. Act Now, why wait.

As for lumping all this other shit in, meat, alcohol, exercise etc
What are you a fat lazy drunk as well.? (I was)
Little steps dude, but decisive ones.
Don't cut out meat, just choose better portions & eat more vegetables, or swap meat for fish or turkey (if its you liver your worried about.) & drink more water. (research water, water & air the purer the better)
Worried about putting on weight when you give up?
Water, you'll piss alot but you'll also flush out the toxins & you 'll fill up.
Want a snack eat an apple.
So you may slip up, i did.
Don't smoke the whole thing.
Take that one big drag then put it out, seriously make you head spin & stub it out.
What a waste??, you think, now theres an irony. Just do it. The money was wasted the minute you bought the packet. Get over it.

Set a financial target, the money you save in ciggies goes in to that fund.
How much do you spend a year ?, consciously put each packet in a jar for whatever it is you want.
A guitar, bike, trip. Just put it in your jar.
Desire & reward.

So thats my rant, exsmokers are the worst aren't they.
When I smell a cigarette I still have a savory taste in my mouth & I don't hassle others for smoking.
But anyone who says they can't give up & they have tried, I say bullshit.
Don't try, you smoke or you do not.
It is a choice.
Get Hard,
Kia Kaha.

What excellent advice! I'm going to use that for myself. Thank you!

// Don't swap ciggies for pot, it doesn't work //

depends on what sort of person and previous exp. with the herb, but in the past its helped me quit smoking ciggies.....until the dealer is busted, irieman your right in a way but if pot was legal i can legally get my quit smoking medication without the Geheime-Staatspolizei chasing me all the time, cos in previous quit attempts ive smoked pot for up to 9 months and remained smokefree for another 9 months afterwards, its like alcoholics when they get off alcohol medication.

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// Don't swap ciggies for pot, it doesn't work //
// depends on what sort of person and previous exp. with the herb, but in the past its helped me quit smoking ciggies.....
Having tried this & know others who have, I can only offer the following.
1. Burnt vegetation still enters the lungs. (remember the health benefits you were after)
2. Why repalce one habit for another?.
3. Its tricky to be inconspicious having a sneaky doob outside the building during working hours.
(just checked your site, sorry this is prob not applicable.)
4. Pot is expensive & sacred.
5. Its enjoyment factor deminishes with repeated doses of the same strain.

Give the lungs a break & don't waste your pot.

Trust me you'll get a better stone & be able to leap tall buildings in a single bound.

naughty! naughty naughty!!!! smoking is bad!
but anyway a friend of mine tried this method to help her cut her smoking down she chewed gum everytime she wanted a smoke and she kept busy by writing letters to everyone she knows and now she doesnt smoke as much as she did she is now only a social smoker but if you want to quit all together try nicobreven it helped my dad stop smoking! like someone mentioned before! it actually really works but after what happened to velocity! do not do patches! but the best solution is DONT START! well anyway i wish you good luck! you can do it! i know you can! it will be worth it in the end! KIA KAHA!!!

//she is now only a social smoker

i bet she smokes all the time you only see her do it "socially"

nah she doesnt smoke a lot only socially! i trust her! and she doesnt do it at school
because she cant be bothered she knows smoking is bad for her thats why shes cut down the amount she smokes a day but she wants to quit all together! and is really trying
and im with her alot of the time