IS it more than mere hype? Are any of these bands that get lumped together any good? Are they really relevant? How do New Zealand 'garage' bands fit into the international scene?
Your thoughts and musings, if you please....
IS it more than mere hype? Are any of these bands that get lumped together any good? Are they really relevant? How do New Zealand 'garage' bands fit into the international scene?
Your thoughts and musings, if you please....
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I will restate my statement.. I am ...
I will restate my statement..
I am really enjoying this garage rock thing. It is a huge amount of fun and some really cool bands are a part of it. I don't care how relevant it is, nor dor I care about it's longevity. It's fun and I'm gonna hold on to it until it is gone.
As with any hyped genre, some bands are ...
As with any hyped genre, some bands are good, some are bad. the datsuns are good, the white stripes are great, the strokes are ok, haven't heard the hives or hellacopters albums so can't comment on them.
Consider, in hindsight for example the 'madchester' scene of the late 80s/early 90s. Out of that 'genre' came (and in most cases, went) the Stone Roses, the Happy Mondays, and the Charlatans (all, by my reckoning, good to great), but also the Farm, the High, Flowered Up (guffaw!), and countless other wannabes (bad to preposterous).
Sometimes it's hard to see through the hype, so thickly do the media pour it on. I remember spinning the Farm album for a couple of weeks before the monotony of their tunes ("get on get on get on the groovy train") started to slow down my speech...
The good thing about the new(ish) rock'n'roll revival is that the music media pushing it also seem to be into the 'international' aspect to it: sweden, new zealand, usa, australia. Which is all good for our lads: the datsuns, d4 for starters, and hopefully anyone else who can get themselves organised to head off to the greener pastures (TLBT, I hope). Often, a hyped sound is so based around a locale that no-one else gets a look-in (madchester, seattle grunge, bristol trip-hop, london two-step, french house).
jesus, rambling...
//Sometimes it's hard to see through ...
//Sometimes it's hard to see through the hype, so thickly do the media pour it on.
agreed. perhaps this topic should be Opinions on Garage Rock "Revival" instead. it's always been around. only it seems to be the "in-thing" as far as ratings/advertising/trends are concerned.
//haven't heard the hives or ...
//haven't heard the hives or hellacopters albums so can't comment on them.
the hellacopters album is ace!
It sucks I hate it and I hope it dies ...
It sucks I hate it and I hope it dies soon along with all the unjust comparisions to grunge and punk.
But the Datsuns doing so well is good :)
And I do like that one Hives song :)
But other than that it sucks
Maybe those ideas that the music sharing generation is creating their own doom by causing music to be more watered down are coming true.
sort of paraphrased in a previous post ...
sort of paraphrased in a previous post by noizyboy, you know there are good and bad examples but..........
I find some people listen to something unproduced, like literally produced in a garage or a basement and think it sucks cause it doesnt have all that studio mastering. Well I dont know if my brain has just gotten sick of all those little mastering, clean up tricks or what, but lately I've really liked the rough stuff. And the polished stuff seems rather sterile.
Oh yeah i like it rough baby!
Something more tribal about it. More real. It feels like you are actually listening to a musician, or at least someone playing music cause they want YOU to hear it, not buy it.
A shared experience for both of you. A stronger connection I guess. Closer to what music is supposed to be about I think. So in that way, I guess some people would consider me a lot more forgiving.
my two cents anyway.
as usual - i agree with you mr squared! ...
as usual - i agree with you mr squared! but this same impact can be found in all musical genres. Take jazz for instance - there are some amazing albums that sound like 'field recordings' although they're in the studio - the listener can hear the musical communion going on ... (eg Thelonius Monk - you can hear him grunting/moaning his piano pieces while he plays them)
But, my comments are a long way a way from the topic I guess ... the current 'garage' vibe that's popular requires just as many clever studio things happening to make it sound beat up and edgy - especailly serious fuck-off compression along with clever mastering it seems to me.
And for the record - being an 'anal musical genre type - 'garage' comes from 60's bands like the 13 floor elevators, and anyone else you want to mention that found their way onto Lenny Kaye's Nuggets series of re-releases (see link) - it was picked up against in nyc in the early - mid 70s ... strokes are closer in style to this than the datsuns, hell - The Clean are closer to garage than the Datsuns ... the Alpaca Brothers ... etc
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Just for arguments sake..... With all ...
Just for arguments sake.....
With all these so called Garage bands referencing rock from the 60s and 70s isn't there a chance of Rock music becoming stagnent. Shouldn't music always be changing and progress therefore furthering the art form. Some people might disagree that Rock is an artform and that it is just pure fun.... you know Sex, Drugs and all that.
But doesnt it have the potential to do so more. Potential for social change, to educate and to amaze the senses with something so unique and beautiful?
Or does rock music need to start all over again (time travelling) and perhaps morph into something more and hopefuly lead to something better.
Yeah, but since the mid 90s we've been ...
Yeah, but since the mid 90s we've been referencing everything, we haven't come up with anything original in ages.
It seems popular culture is just about finished with the 80s, so hopefully once we've gone through a grunge revival we might be able to think for ourselves.
Originality is good and all, but I dont there's too much wrong with keeping good things alive and building upon them, just as long as we dont keep rehashing over and over and actually do put something of ourselves into what we're borrowing eh?
I'm over it. It's never been so ...
I'm over it.
It's never been so lucritive to be in a covers band as it is today. Just take a verse riff from Sabbath, chuck in a Led Zeppelin chorus and then dumb it down to Kiss like proportions and right there is the perfect recipe for becoming the next big thing.
To be honest, if I had no musical integrity I'd get a band together, rehash some old classics go to the UK and use my NZ passport as my ticket into the record companies pockets.
I give it another 3 months. Hopefully this "Garage" scene will die a fast yet painful death.
Jeez God! - so grateful that most ...
Jeez God! - so grateful that most musicians don't think like this - "recipes for the next big thing" ... you honestly think that the Datsuns were working to a cunning recipe for world domination ... happy accidents - i thought being god you'd understand that
thats pretty critical, man. who are we ...
thats pretty critical, man. who are we to judge if some people's influences are more apparent in their music than others'? as long as theyre having fun, and being truthful... there isnt a scale by which we can gauge originality, and judge people on their lack of it. at least allow your perception of it to make you more enthusiastic about the stuff you *do* rate.
i like it. its got energy.
I'm not tring to put anyone down, I'm ...
I'm not tring to put anyone down, I'm just seeing it how it is.
I'm not putting down The Datsuns either, I'm just saying that if I wanted to make a quick buck it'd be damn easy too at the moment.
It's a formula as simple as finding an ex-soap star and giving her a Pop career.
Smart NZ band + Dumb Rock'n'Roll = $$$
I reccomend you all try this one at home.