Man, if it's a joke they've gone to a lot of trouble.
The website describes a twofold use of the system - to recommend songs and bands to a single listener given their tastes in music, and to determine which songs to release to a particular demographic. I think it's an interesting science.
//Are we becoming so predictable that our tastes in music can be predetermined or this just going to lead to more stale songs flooding the airwaves?
Some major labels have already expressed an interest in the technology. If they were to just use it as an extra reference I think that would probably be OK, but they're so bent on maximising their profits, I can just imagine the big companies becoming way too dependent on the system. Ultimately only the most tenacious independents would change the direction of musical trends, followed by a tidal wave of structurally identical bands, churned out by the major labels.
it's not a valid experiment surely! i mean, they've released to the media the fact that the song is underpinned by the experiment - how can they be sure what is media hype about the "hit song science" and what interest the song itself is creating?
i'm skeptical as to whether human interests are steady or predictable enough to be useful for this ...
Basically I think what they're doing is quantifying a previously intuitive process. I think it's plausible - labels simply release 'songs that sound the same as this particular song that's doing really really well at the moment', but now they've got something that will show them connections between songs that they previously didn't realise were there.
Most of the labels using such a system would still continue to vomit out shitty pulp that will make our ears bleed after a few weeks, but the only difference I can see is that there would be a whole lot more shitty pulp, and it would disappear even more quickly.
Regardless of how sophisticated your tastes are, probably a lot of the reasons you like a particular track can be quantified in some way or other. I don't think there's any shame in that. The only thing on which the system would totally fail is lyrics.
HSS has been around since music became "popular". Composers nicked ideas from other composers that they knew would hook their audience. Hence, the term Hook.
The Beatles stole lots of stuff from others, so did Led Zep, etc. Don't take my word for it, do a little research!
If u listen to the radio u'll hear familiar aspects in nearly every tune. It can be subtle, other times is very blatant. It's almost like subliminal persuasion, they slip a little harmony in here, a riff there.
i think it is possible to know a hit song before its written in many cases... i think some of the song writers for the manufactored side of pop know when they're writting a hit song, as its there job. Although part of this goes into marketing.
then there a songs that become hits and the artist does not realise because they didn't think htey did anything that different than before.
I don't know, but i'm sure theres a writting formula for main stream music, maybe once out of the main stream it becomes hit and miss?
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Man, if it's a joke they've gone to a ...
Man, if it's a joke they've gone to a lot of trouble.
The website describes a twofold use of the system - to recommend songs and bands to a single listener given their tastes in music, and to determine which songs to release to a particular demographic. I think it's an interesting science.
//Are we becoming so predictable that our tastes in music can be predetermined or this just going to lead to more stale songs flooding the airwaves?
Some major labels have already expressed an interest in the technology. If they were to just use it as an extra reference I think that would probably be OK, but they're so bent on maximising their profits, I can just imagine the big companies becoming way too dependent on the system. Ultimately only the most tenacious independents would change the direction of musical trends, followed by a tidal wave of structurally identical bands, churned out by the major labels.
...so maybe nothing much would change after all.
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it's not a valid experiment surely! i ...
it's not a valid experiment surely! i mean, they've released to the media the fact that the song is underpinned by the experiment - how can they be sure what is media hype about the "hit song science" and what interest the song itself is creating?
i'm skeptical as to whether human interests are steady or predictable enough to be useful for this ...
Basically I think what they're doing ...
Basically I think what they're doing is quantifying a previously intuitive process. I think it's plausible - labels simply release 'songs that sound the same as this particular song that's doing really really well at the moment', but now they've got something that will show them connections between songs that they previously didn't realise were there.
Most of the labels using such a system would still continue to vomit out shitty pulp that will make our ears bleed after a few weeks, but the only difference I can see is that there would be a whole lot more shitty pulp, and it would disappear even more quickly.
Regardless of how sophisticated your tastes are, probably a lot of the reasons you like a particular track can be quantified in some way or other. I don't think there's any shame in that. The only thing on which the system would totally fail is lyrics.
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...good point....after all, only songs ...
...good point....after all, only songs with really great lyrics are popular these days...
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HSS has been around since music became ...
HSS has been around since music became "popular". Composers nicked ideas from other composers that they knew would hook their audience. Hence, the term Hook.
The Beatles stole lots of stuff from others, so did Led Zep, etc. Don't take my word for it, do a little research!
If u listen to the radio u'll hear familiar aspects in nearly every tune. It can be subtle, other times is very blatant. It's almost like subliminal persuasion, they slip a little harmony in here, a riff there.
It's all bullshit and kills creativity.
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i think it is possible to know a hit ...
i think it is possible to know a hit song before its written in many cases... i think some of the song writers for the manufactored side of pop know when they're writting a hit song, as its there job. Although part of this goes into marketing.
then there a songs that become hits and the artist does not realise because they didn't think htey did anything that different than before.
I don't know, but i'm sure theres a writting formula for main stream music, maybe once out of the main stream it becomes hit and miss?
Results for this week: Jewel's ...
Results for this week: Jewel's "Intution" and "Real" by Plumb.
// Remember, to have a hit a song must:
// 1. Sound like a hit.
// 2. Be promoted like a hit
// 3. Have optimal mathematical properties.
Heh, heh, heh.
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