The other night, my friend (who is 2 months shy of her 18th birthday) told me her dad isn't letting her hang out with me any more.
Why?
Because I'm a bad influence? ..... no.
Because we get in to trouble when were together?...... no.
Because we spend too much time together? .... no.
Because I dress funny? ..... yes.
BECAUSE I WEAR WEIRD CLOTHES?!?! WTF kind of excuse is that!?!
I make my clothes... it saves money and I like to wear stuff that no one else has, but what I wear I wouldn’t exactly call extravagant, offensive, skanky, or even that unusual... mismatched or unfashionable maybe, but not that unusual.
This guy is a prick, he cant stand to see some one of the female gender out of the kitchen and doing things on there own.
He took one look at me and decided based on what I was wearing I was to weird for his daughter and I was going to be trouble... and I hadn't even opened my mouth to say hi.
So that’s my latest experience of discrimination. Id be interested in hearing what stories you guys have got . Whether it be to do with image, age, race, gender, ect ect.
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Goddamn! What is up with those ’ ...
Goddamn! What is up with those ’ things ... must be something to do with spellchecker me thinks.
did you copy and paste from Word? Joe ...
did you copy and paste from Word?
Joe wil be able to fill you in there.
Yeah I did. Here I am trying to get my ...
Yeah I did.
Here I am trying to get my spelling all proper and THIS is what happens. Cant win.
I have had this problem in the past ...
I have had this problem in the past using word to compose emails which are exactly 100 words long. If you go to Tools/Auto-correct, and uncheck the convert plain quotes to smart quotes it will solve the problem. Except if you type "Im" and it will change it to "I'm" with a curly quote.
Basically word's curly quotes aren't ascii characters, so they go weird.
That is bullshit! what an asshole! i ...
That is bullshit! what an asshole! i don't care what my friends look like or what they wear! my tast in friends is as varied as my music! i bought one friend over to my house the otha day and he has two piercings in his lips and a shaved head where as the day before i had your typical pretty boy surfy ova (just friends!) my mum has learnt not to care..... DON"T JUDGE A BOOK BY IT"S COVER! and good on you for being talented enough to make your own clothes! where are you? i'll hire you to make me clothes! haha :-)
I know yr probably joking....but I have ...
I know yr probably joking....but I have made clothes for other NZMers. :)
do have some pics of your stuff? (how ...
do have some pics of your stuff? (how shady does that sound!!) hey - can you make trench coaty kind of things? i always wanted a coat made out of normal material that goes mid calf - NICE!!!!
Theres a few pics on my site, but all ...
Theres a few pics on my site, but all that stuffs about a year old. I'll have to get a digi camera real soon so I can update that section.
I havent made a trench coat quite yet, but I was asked yesterday to by some one else, and I have some 70's style curtains that would make a kick ass coat.
If you are serious about it, I'd be happy to make you some gear, email me :) rottonpear@hotmail.com
[ http://www.rottonpear.tk ]
//I have some 70's style curtains that ...
//I have some 70's style curtains that would make a kick ass coat.
Aha! This is what perplexes me. We're not even talking about a hard-core goth with cuts up her arms - we're talking about Julie Andrews! Man, I checked out your site. Your stuff is awesome!
// Julie Andrews hahaha, classic. The ...
// Julie Andrews
hahaha, classic. The goat witch.
Exactly what I was saying in my opther post, your clothes are freaky, they're just awesome.
P.S., My friend (you know who I assume) said she was gonna see you tomorrow I think. Make sure she gives you a hug from moi.
can u make me a leather jacket???...
can u make me a leather jacket???
And what exactually is wrong with the ...
And what exactually is wrong with the one I allready gave you? bi-arch!
people discriminated against me when i ...
people discriminated against me when i had long hair.
they didnt give me jobs.
they didnt let me flat with them.
they didnt accept my id.
they didnt id me.
they didnt like me.
they didnt go round with me.
they didnt let me play rugby.
so i shaved my head.
now people discriminate against me because i have short hair and look so normal.
I thought it was because you had ...
I thought it was because you had lice.
rottenpear, parents are fucked in someway or another.
yeah i thought it was lice too, give's ...
yeah i thought it was lice too, give's a few days carl to get used to the idea, and we will love you again, besides now that your hair is gone I have the best hair on nzm .. thanks ;)
Carl, your hair was so cool... I am so ...
Carl, your hair was so cool...
I am so jealous of males who have nice hair, & they don't even appreciate what they have.
carl i like your short hair. it feels ...
carl i like your short hair. it feels nice.
photo dude??...
photo dude??
it wasnt a mullet was it?!...
it wasnt a mullet was it?!
what a jerk! that is so rude. people ...
what a jerk! that is so rude. people like that make me sick.
i have a 'friend' who started attending a private school last year, and then started dating some guy and ever since she has had zero time for her friends. i mean, we were best friends. i called her at least once a week for the first few months after she left, then realised she never once called me, and never had time to spend with me. it was always, oh no, sorry, i have too much homework. or i have to spend timee with my boyfriend. she didnt watch a play i was in cos she was expecting her boyfriend to ring. shit, some friend.i dont think this really fiits into discrimination, but i needed to have a bitch. sorry everyone. also, her parents totally dissaprove of me and my friends. well, thats stupid. it shouldnt matter how you dress, or act, or what school you go to, if you are rich or poor, or what race or religion you are. Down with discrimination!
sorry, that really was a bit of a ...
sorry, that really was a bit of a ramble. i wont ramble again.
//i dont think this really fiits into ...
//i dont think this really fiits into discrimination, but i needed to have a bitch. - ha ha this thread was started so I could have a good bitch. Go right ahead, dont hold back.
People suck basicly, you are always ...
People suck basicly, you are always going to get narrow minded people.
rottonpear, it sounds like you're a ...
rottonpear, it sounds like you're a really talented, interesting creative person, and I can totally understand why you'd be annoying at your friend's father treating you like that. I think it says way more about him that it does about you.
But I think it's cool that instead of conforming to his standards of dress (and really, what does he know?), instead you're getting angry and doing something. I guess the thing to know is that you're not the only one who's had to put up with crap like this.
(I like your web site)
Dear Rotton Pear, For every bastard ...
Dear Rotton Pear,
For every bastard in the world, there a ten good people.
I am happy to count you as one of the good.
I am constantly in awe of you and your creativity.
I am glad to have you as a friend to my family.
loves and big hugs
Aka
You are THE GREATEST aka! thanx for ...
You are THE GREATEST aka!
thanx for the wee poem :D
one friend's mum said i was too ...
one friend's mum said i was too "streetwise" to be hanging with her. another has said i am a bad influence on both her and her sister and that she doesnt like satanists (and im not a fuckin satanist).i have gotten a whole lot of other comments from older narrowminded fuckwits just not understanding that people are actually allowed to dress differently.
your friend isnt going to listen to her dad right?? because if she did that would be a shitty thing to do. i try to make my own clothes too but i just end up making it retarded and all, but i think its fantastic you do it well.
in other words some people cant handle that people look different, its like a fuckin crime or something.
I have to go to the supermarket ...
I have to go to the supermarket everytime I want to see her (she works in the deli) and sometimes she'll ring me up. But I dont blame her for obeying him... he rules his household with fear.
ugh thats not right! dammit! well at ...
ugh thats not right! dammit! well at least you get to see her somehow right? oh and you know i love your website :D
Rest assured that as you get older, ...
Rest assured that as you get older, people will begin to think it's charming. In the four years I've been with the bank, my hair's been black, orange, red, green, blue, short, long, back to short again (now it's mid-length and dark brown, I look downright house-wifely normal). I've had two sizeable tattoos done, and I frequently wear clothes I've made myself. As long as I do my job, no one cares. Every once in a while, (like when my hair was green) people will ask me, "why did you do that to yourself?" and I tell them, "because it's pretty." They don't like me any less for having strange hair, I don't like them any less for having asked.
Granted, I think a lot of people's perception of me has to do with my reaction to them. If people stare, I don't tell them to fuck off. If they ask me questions, I answer them politely. I'm like the ambassador of strange.
Unfortunately, rottonpear, your situation can't be changed with a can-do attitude. People can be motherfuckers, especially to the young. Just hold on to your creativity, though, and once you pass a certain point you become eccentric instead of freakish. It's a good life, being eccentric.
One more thing: I'd be willing to bet it's a lot more fun to be you than it is to be him. You can gloat about that secretly; that'll make you feel better, guaranteed.
I have to go with the father on this ...
I have to go with the father on this one. weirdo.
Catcher rye-Are you fucking crazy? Who ...
Catcher rye-Are you fucking crazy? Who cares! What does it matter what anyone wears or how they wear their hair etc?
Good on you rottenpear, firstly for making your own clothes (sounds wicked) and secondly for wearing what you wear and not giving a shit about what people think of you. I'm just sorry your mates dad is such an arsehole.
it is the parents job in life to ...
it is the parents job in life to protect their children from such weirdos as the person who started this thread. the friends dad is doing a great job in bringing up his child in a safe and well controlled manner. i think the world needs more of his kind of 'hands on' attitude towards growing up. Perhaps if there were more like him around we can stop the ever increasing amounts of anarchy we have to deal with on a daily basis. the three best principles you can have whilst trying to develop a well balanced child are as follows...
1.Fear - creating and instilling a world of fear into your child at an early age is vital to maintain control over his/her life
2. Firm discipline- to rule over the household with an iron fist. this principle is also closely linked to fear.
and lastly principle number
3. brainwashing - all the opinions and values your child is to have in later life, you must create them for them early on.Whether it is your religious or political beliefs you can force them into the same thought patterns if you start early enough. a good way to do this is to start subtly like haveing a tape deck at teh ready which you play quietly next to them as they go to sleep. it works.
Either you were just making an ...
Either you were just making an (insensitive) joke with your fist post or you are seriously deluded.
The daughter in question is almost 18 ...
catcher rye is just saying the things ...
catcher rye is just saying the things that need to be said. Control. Power. These are the things that create good young nationals.
Quite ironically, Catcher Rye is trying ...
Quite ironically, Catcher Rye is trying (albeit sarcastically) to argue safe parenting. Every scrap of argument he/she is making, would be seen as the very epitomy of what, any parent not wanting to raise young Richard Prebbles, would be trying to avoid.
//Control. Power. These are the things ...
//Control. Power. These are the things that create good young nationals.
...and a Big Brother who's always watching, eh?
What are you trying to say, ...
What are you trying to say, Velocity?
Are you trying to say something?
Me? Nothing. I'm loyal to the State, ...
Me? Nothing. I'm loyal to the State, to the regime. I'm a loyal, obedient little American citizen. Because Big Brother is watching.
thats pretty funny catcher rye in a ...
thats pretty funny catcher rye in a sick sorta way... I'm sure you don't believe that this is a good example of how to protect your children!
If you do.. I'd be inclined to ask if your last name is 'Cooperite' or relating to some other extremist cult type institutional group!
ahahha your funny catcher rye, really! ...
ahahha your funny catcher rye, really! *wipes tear from her eyes*
I think there is too much blame going ...
I think there is too much blame going on the father here. It is completely understandable for him to want to shelter his little girl. Evidenced by your clothes, I'm sure he sees you as a future drug addict, suicidal fatalist who cuts herself and will corrupt his precious daughter similarly.
However wrong that discrimi-fucking-nation is, there's no point in simply venting your spleen on the internet and not doing anything to properly address it. There has to be some onus on your friend to "show him the light", and I'm sure that you could make positive efforts here too. Don't call him a discriminating biggot. Don't make a point of acting alternative around him. Try to subtly craft his low opinion of you into a favourable one.
//It is completely understandable for ...
//It is completely understandable for him to want to shelter his little girl.
It's a pity though. I thought people had gotten a wee bit more liberal-minded in the last 20 years. Maybe it's more to do with the fact that his "little girl" has come to the age where she's breaking away from parental ties. My parents had always been really liberal, but boy, they had it in for my fiance. They'd been really nice to him right up until we got engaged.
//There has to be some onus on your friend to "show him the light"
Bloody good suggestions. Tactful, considerate, hopefully effective.
It's one of life's little ironies ...
It's one of life's little ironies that the boring clean looking ones are usually the ones you have to watch.
*Aka puts on the parent hat, and tells ...
*Aka puts on the parent hat, and tells it like it is......
I also am a believer in the Hands on Parenting Method
I am sorry the father in this case has it wrong, he may well be correct in worring about this horrific gothic looking perosn ( in this case i infact know he is wrong but for the sake of discussion...)
BUT he is doing just the stupidest thing ever.
The friends of my offspring that I worry about the most are the ones that are invited in to my home, this has a 2 fold out come
1) I get to watch over them and know what is happening, were as if I forced the friendship underground, I would by my actions be encourging despection and sneeking about.
2) I get to have a good look at the person in question, and are there by able to make up my own mind, it is so common for us all to put on some type of mask in public.. these soon fall away when met with respect, home baking and a welcoming smile.
Yes always hands on....... open hands.
please don't think just because you have come into my home that you were there to be "supervised" I also invite friends who are just friends.. no hidden agenda ;P
//I thought people had gotten a wee bit ...
//I thought people had gotten a wee bit more liberal-minded in the last 20 years.
In general I think that's true. It's just a different story when people have to be liberal minded in regard to their child's friends, lifestlye or indeed fiance.
I don't necessarily see that as bad. It's good to have parents who care for your welfare, and are prepared to take an interventionist approach to protect it. But, of course, it is all a balance, which Pear clearly isn't receiving.
The real pity is that Pear seems, as far as you can tell from reading her postings, lots of good qualities which most parents would probably appreciate their children being exposed to. She seems smart. If she can do it on a message board, I don't see why she can't make a good opinion with parents. I remember that this was all too easy on the occassions where I needed to.
go aka. that's very sage practice : )...
go aka.
that's very sage practice : )
AAAaaah. spot the difference? My ...
AAAaaah.
spot the difference?
My reactions weren't quick enough to hit stop in time to prevent the erroneous "too".
//I'm sure that you could make ...
//I'm sure that you could make positive efforts here too. Don't call him a discriminating biggot. Don't make a point of acting alternative around him. Try to subtly craft his low opinion of you into a favourable one.
I've only meet the guy a few times for short periods of time, but within out short meetings I:
Greated him with a cheerfull 'hello' ... in return I got a grunt.
Made polite conversation.... more grunts.
I thought the guy was a bit of a jackass, but I kept that to myself, I treated him just like I'd treat anyone else and I didnt act any differently to how I usually do.
Even if I wanted him to change his opinion on me, I can't... he took that chance away from me when he decided he didnt want me linked in any way to his family.
What Im most sad about is that my friend dosent have any other friends, her father scared them all away long ago, and now that she's not in school shes finding it hard to meet people. He's not sheltering his daughter he's alienating her.
She should move out....
She should move out.