Television in New Zealand.

what does everybody think of Television in New Zealand, has it gone down the drain considerably over the last 10 years?? or hasnt it changed at all. Personally id think TV Would be a fuck of alot better if the following happened.

TELEPATHIC TV: It seems that we have 5 free to air TV Stations in New Zealand, but they all play Ad breaks at exactly the same time as each other, are the execs. Telepathic?? well if u are stop it, when one TV Station plays ads at least allow us to watch another while the otehr plays its ads.

FREQUENT DELAYS: why the hell does TV often *deliberatly* delay shows by as much as 5 minutes just to piss their fans off?? its annoying enough when your trying to video something as it cuts time off the last minutes of the show when you have pre-programed your video for recording. Why cant the TV Execs. sack their program managers for incompetance by delaying programs by as long as possible, for the record being a former marketing manager whenever somebody showed up for work late, id send em straight home or if one of my clients showed up late for an appointment - im very sorry, the deals off, why waste valuable time?? 6pm means 6pm.

PROMOS: Going back to the above topic, one of the reasons why TV Shows are late is because of excessive self-promotion, i gotta say that TV 4 Is the worst in terms of promos, what pisses me off the most are promos which last too long AT THE END OF THE AD BREAK. if we cut promos to less than 10 seconds then wed get valuable TV Time of the shows we enjoy, not some stupid dumbass show which is on in 4 days and we dont care about. both TV3 and TV 4 are guilty on excessively long promos before TV Shows start. lets have there program directors beaten with horsewhips if they continue to deliberatly piss TV Viwers off with excessively long shit just before a program starts with shit we dont care shit about.

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A marketing manager?

I'm surprised you had any clients at all........

:)

hence he is a former marketing manager

yes a fmr marketing manager, i worked at MJS Marketing for 6 months before being laid off thanks to staff cuts, i was one of 30 given redundancy cheques the co. eventually went under 18 months later.

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// when your trying to video something as it cuts time off the last minutes of the show when you have pre-programed your video for recording.

Freaking heck just set your video player 5 minutes early and to record 5 minutes late. I though that was common practice and sense.

Ads do get too long but hey give me TiVo and its ilk and I'm sorted.

thats what I do, but I give it 10mins after

The practice makes it nigh on impossible to fit three one-hour episodes on a three-hour tape though.

Solution - don't watch TV.

an even better solution... get rich mans tv! only poor mans tv (of which i only have) is crap!

// Solution - don't watch TV.

brilliance in its simplicity.

Although my gripe is slightly different to above, I tend to take sides with Lucifer_Sam on this one. After returning from the UK after two years, I noticed that a) NZ food - and I'm talking baked beans and sizzlers with cheese chunks - is fantastic b) NZ shop attendants are ultra-friendly, to the point of being kinda scary and c) ad-breaks in NZ were awfully long... like - reaaaally long.

BBC1 and BBC2 were really great for movies - full movie, no ad breaks, no cuts. There were bits in Terminator II that I hadn't seen since watching it at the cinema. It all made a helluva lot more sense.

Although I don't think kiwi TV stations need to eliminate ad breaks entirely, there are some good arguments for reducing their length.

Maybe the sheer volume of advertising time is to hide the fact that they don't have enough good TV to fill their schedule.

Terminator II was on Sky on monday, it was good to see the whole thing without editing

Baked beans and sizzlers fantastic? Hmmm - I'll leave them to you. Its our fish and chips which are so superior to the UK versions, although I still miss English kebabs, a curry shop on every corner and huge fried and undoubtedly fatal breakfasts.

Terminator II - *slobber*

//Terminator II was on Sky on monday, it was good to see the whole thing without editing

yeah i saw that, wicked movie
it always amazes me how the shitty terminator wins thou, the other one is so much better!!!!

^ agreed!!!

...do i dare admit that i have never seen it......

what?? its a classic now

Sky TV Is Great, all the movies without 5 minute long ad breaks every 10 minutes, something which wrecks the entire movie. and aint worth seeing on TV2 or TV3.

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>TELEPATHIC TV: It seems that we have 5 free to air TV Stations in New Zealand, but they all play >Ad breaks at exactly the same time as each other...

Quite logical actually, and exactly what you'd expect in a competitive market. If you're watching a so-so sort of programme and ads come on, the first thing you're going to do is flick to another channel to find something to watch - if you find something, you may well stick. So, channels could play an endless game of staggering ads in the hope they'll pick up random viewers but not have people watch their ads, or ensure there is no TV option but watch one or other of the sets of ads.

comes to prove really that TV is a load of garbage if the only qualifications you need to be a TV Exec is the ability to communicate Telepathically, not that i have anything wrong with telethapy, it just doesnt have a place in the media.

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// It seems that we have 5 free to air TV Stations in New Zealand, but they all play Ad breaks at exactly the same time as each other, are the execs. Telepathic?? well if u are stop it, when one TV Station plays ads at least allow us to watch another while the otehr plays its ads.

maybe they do that, so companies that are paying them money to put ads on tv actually know that people are watching them?

its funny that you brought this up because this is EXACTLY [minus a few things] what we were talking about in my media studies class this afternoon.

the fact is: we are obsessed with tv, so much so that we could probably count the tv as a family member [no kidding there]. it's amazing just exactly how many new zealanders can plan their day around what they want to watch on tv.

eg/ last year, when TV ONE did some programme times restructuring and coronation st had a whole day taken out of it usual viewing schedule, thousands of letters where sent into TV ONE complaining about how it was "ghastly that they should change the times", "how DARE THEY???" etc etc....how crazy is that? i mean, who gives a FUCK about war around the world and what have you - wheres my coro st?

we are manipulated by tv. it's as simple as that.

senario: what would happen to new zealand as a culture if every single joe blogg in nz threw out their tv? thats one to think about.

I remember almost ten years ago when TV One tried doing something like editing three Coronation Street episodes into two hour-long ones. All the oldies bitterly complained, petitions and letter writing campaigns were launched and eventually TV One relented.

I think they've come to realise that they're stuck with Coronation Street, so they're trying to attract a more youthful audience with the "It's a Coro thing" campaign.

I don't think I've ever watch an episode of it.

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Ill tell you a little story. I haven't watched TV once since i moved to Wellington which is going on to 4 months now. I feel much better for it. I dont have to tolerate bad music i also have given up my shortland st addiction. but i am going to miss the new series of the sopranoes....

the addiction begins.

I had a 4-hour-a-day habit when I was living in Pakuranga (which, I think, is understandable), but I moved into the city with some great flatmates who aren't interested in watching TV. All I watch now is maybe a couple of absolute must-see shows a week, like The Sins and The Office, and the occasional movie. It's great!

Have you noticed, right, with Shortland Street, if you miss three episodes in a row, then you lose interest, but if you watch three episodes in a row, you're hooked again..or is it just me?

bring on the war..then we get something real to watch. little light streaks and bright flashes flying through the night vision induced green screen. can't wait. following a missile as it makes its way towards a ventilation shaft. and then we can swicth over the friends and have a laugh at their wacky exploits then click back to the green screen then over to the latest staged 'reality' show. how come they call these survivors - bachelor type shows reality t.v. you want reality t.v. come round to my place. i go to work, i eat, i shit. i come home, I eat , i shit, i jerk off, maybe if i am lucky get some action but more often than not i jerk off some more, i sleep, wake up, go to work , i eat etc etc repeat repeat. that my friends is reality t.v cos I don't know too many guys who get to date like 30 relatively hot chicks, go on group dates with like ten of them at a time and have them all fawn over him while he slowly makes up his mind and ditches them one by one till he finds his 'perfect' bride.

catcher rye - sounds to me like you are a selfconfessed prime wanker!!

i couldn't have worded it better myself.you forgot to mention full of self loathing and hidden homosexual leanings....

the only thing i make a point of watching on tv is CSI.
the things i tend to avoid are reality shows and the news.

what bothers me about tv is that they usually play really good movies in the middle of the night, and junk in "primetime" slots.

likewise....cept for me i only watch 3 News, Gilligans Island and Happy Days (Prime) and a bit of Cartoon Network.

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this goes all the way back up to the top to the original point

television going down hill two words REALITY TV

as for the ads 5 tv channels mean greater competion for advertising dollar, which means cheaper ads which means less money per ad break which dictates the necessity for more ads. it is a simple concept of "market elasticity"

as for there being less ads in UK there is a reason for that they pay a broadcasting fee that is substantially higher than ours used to be.

on the whole they have more crap with shows like neighbours from hell fattest man in the Uk Noels house party.

I have to say that the imaging (promos) on 4 are very inventive and I think they serve their purpose well also if the programmers know the movie is shit they ham it up and say this movie is pretty shit

rant rant

I read a very good piece suggesting that reducing advertising time would significantly improve the effectiveness of advertising. When people are spammed they just switch off and don't take anything in. Advertising would be a lot more effective if ad breaks were reduced to, say, three 30-second slots.

-Ads don't need to be overly flashy to try and grab the audience's attention, and they're also shorter; thus, they're cheaper to make.
-Because people are no longer being constantly bombarded with heaps of different messages, they're more responsive to the ads.
-With these points in mind, the TV channel may charge premium rates for the reduced advertising time; thus they don't actually lose any revenue.

The biggest problem is that advertisers still hesitate to try the "less is more" approach. In business, logic seems to go out the window.

<--- as for there being less ads in UK there is a reason for that they pay a broadcasting fee that is substantially higher than ours used to be. --->

Broadcasting fees are an illegal tax, thank the lord They ablished them back in 1998, why the fuck did they hurl people to court for not paying something that has no significance towards the people of Aotearoa, for the record i still have a NaZis on Air car sticker i stuck to my car Bumper. It also pissess me off when watching J-2 and a crowded house video comes on along comes that stupid "NZ on air" logo across the fucken screen, goodness gracious, who cares if its from New Zealand, you can tell by the way they sing scenery in the vids anyway.

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The only shows I watch at the mo are SO Ed Norton and m2. I usually catch a bit of Dibly/Father Ted before ed norton's on, too. Shit that dude is funny.

Other than that, I dont bother with tv - if any appliance in my house is a member of the whanau, it's my laptop of the toaster.

Uhhh... Isn't it Graham Norton?

& isn't Ed(ward) Norton the actor from Fight Club & American History X?

Megaccino is right...

But so is the good Doctor - Graham Norton is classic.

Ed Norton can be funny, too...

MEH! That's what happens when I have to spend all morning in Chapel when everyone else is inpublic-holiday mode.

EWW! RELIGION! GET IT OFF MEEEEE!

mind you..the office is genius

Buffy and Angel kick arse, too.

TV is crap. Constructive I know, but it really is.

even sky digital is crap now.

Television is great,
its the content and the way we abuse it that is wrong,

there is no decent new zealand t.v, save maybe havoc
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imagine a station with 24/7 local content....why is that so hard to imagine? maybe because can west owns new zealand media and dictates what we will see and hear..........but then the world mainstream media is owned by about 6 companys fuck for that matter the masses are ruled ny the few, oh well it doesnt matter it really doesnt its all about money no body gives a fuck........................................

you know your hand could be your tv if look hard enough
cant see the forest for the trees...............................................

Yay 24/7 of house programmes and yachting. Give me CSI any day.

no no you misunderstand me,
thats what we have already,
im talking about an evoled idea
its a process, ask god it will teach you