Copy Protection

http://music.forthemasses.net has started up as a list of CDs being released in NZ with copy protection on 'em, good thing? bad thing? discuss?

Forums: The Bar,

Good.
People shouldn't copy NZ music.

No way! One of the reasons I bought a laptop was so that I could use it as a CD player. I rip all my own CDs onto it (using the copy protection available with Windows Media Player so the files won't play on any other PC) and in this way I can avoid carting around my entire CD collection. Technically this is still illegal, but copyright laws are currently being revised to allow this sort of copying.

The copy protection in question stops me from even playing any CDs, and possibly will also fuck up my laptop.

The point that the site makes is that most of these CDs aren't even labelled properly to warn people that they may not play. IE, I may not know until my laptop has to be taken in for repair.

can they really fuck up your computer?
i listen to all my music on the computer. i have a stereo, but who wants to listen to music on that old thing when i can listen to it in 5.1 digital surround sound! *gloat*

As far as I've heard - they won't eject. Hence, if you turn off your PC you can't reboot.

shit. now i'm paranoid.

ah well, i guess i'll just stop buying cds and start downloading them instead.
bahahahaha!! how ironic.

It depends on the CD protection the record company has used I think.
I know the newish Celine Dion CD basically screwed the new iMacs, the new Robbie Williams CD has minimum system requirements so it can play on windows, just like a video game.

Celine Dion and Robbie Williams???

I have a cd player in my car and, living in America, I do a lot of driving. Most of the cd's on heavy rotation are imports, rare, or just generally something I don't want anyone breaking the window in my car to steal. If I've paid 16.00 US for a new cd and would like to burn a 'car copy', why should I be prevented from doing so?

I also have this mad obsession with NZ music, and have been proselytizing to all of my friends about the wondrous sounds coming from the southern hemisphere to the point where they say, "Okay, will you shut up if we give it a listen?" So I make a compilation cd of 20 or so bands from NZ and give it to my friend who comes back to me and says, "You know, I really dig that track by the Datsuns. Can you burn me their cd?" My reply is, "Sorry, no, but you can buy it from www.smokecds.com," and I know that a few of my friends have actually gone out and bought stuff. Should I be prevented from promoting (and creating profit for) the bands I enjoy?

Now, it's not just the little guys that are affected. It probably wouldn't hurt Christina Aguilera or Metallica very much, paying-the-mortgage-wise, if someone were to burn a copy of their cd, but that doesn't make it right to do so, and it still means they're being cheated out of profit that's rightly theirs. If I were a fan of their music, I would probably believe in supporting them, too. Just because they're rich doesn't mean they owe me anything.

I don't think there are actually any plans to copy-protect kiwi artists' CDs - I heard the music industry decided on the BRN&GTBRNT campaign specifically as a less hamfisted way of dealing with the problem.

I didn't think much of Renee Tadpole's overenthusiasm for the campaign until I found out that Tadpole were one of the bands being pimped in kids' playgrounds (Someone was ripping hundreds of CDs and selling them for $10 a pop). Also, I thought Tadpole made their point in a really positive and imaginative way just by releasing their new album with that cool hologram cover. Go Tadpole!

No, it's crap that some CDs can't be played on computers. Sometime's the computer is the most convienient place to listen to stuff from, on headphones or otherwise.

Absolutely.
My computer is the most convenient place to play music from. Sometimes I don't want to listen to a whole cd, or just want to quicky hear one song.
I've gotten to the point where I just don't want to have to change CD's in the cd player, even though it's a 5-disk, and I'm sure not forking out for a jukebox.

i have had ALL my shihad albums stolen
i have had churn stolen twice...
if i hadn't burnt them onto my computer i'd be fucked and without my shihad!!!
i'd also have never brought my HLAH CDs, or quite likely i would never hnave frequented real groocy and never really got into NZM
burning ain't good if u sell it, but making a copy of the CD for when ur not certain about the place and want to take a safety precaution, cause a stolen CDR ain't as bad as the CD itself, i don't see how that is wrong
but then again this whole "industry" wants to make money doesn't it??? if i buy my collection again im payign between $100 and $120