Hey mingo - it used to be the Flying Nun sound that made Kiwi music unique but thats no longer the case. The scene here is now a real hybrid and hotchpotch of overseas influences...we even have a boy band....with guitars ...he he ...(not mentioning any names for fear of retribution!!!) I think NZ music is as diverse as anywhere on the planet and covers the full range of genres from hiphop through to hardcore. Dont get me wrong though ...the Flying Nun thing is still a force to be reckoned with on our fair shores and I think it would be fair to say that it has a had a major influence on some overseas underground/alternative bands. waddaya reckon???
Definately fair to say that F.Nun had a mass influence on our shores and beyond ...but don't fogret there was a band called The Velvet Underground that came along well before any of that stuff and also F.Nun was very hit and miss...ie: That put out a fuck load of shit of which only some of was actually good.....There is also a point to be made here that most genres of music are now represented in most countries worldwide so don't go too far up your kiwi ass on that one buddy....he he ...based in Aus at the mo and i have to say I am sorely missing those fine kiwi sounds....boo hhoooo Bfm I miss and love you.......
You proclaimed:
"There is also a point to be made here that most genres of music are now represented in most countries worldwide so don't go too far up your kiwi ass on that one buddy....he he"
err yeah didn't he mention that ("I think NZ music is as diverse as anywhere on the planet") , or was that some joke I'm just not getting?
Could be. Would it be fair to say that most of today's NZ musicians have been influenced by the presence or legacy of Flying Nun, maybe not directly, but in some way the FN opened some doors that musicians have continued to build on? I don't want to get too theoretical, but it seems more than just a coincidence that there is such a dynamic scene in such a relatively small place...and I guess I wanna know what people think. Cheer-i-o
one reason I think kiwi music rocks is that the kiwi bands aren't afraid to experiment with their sounds, getting something entirely new and different. Whatever the reason, it' s good.
I think isolation has had a great deal to do with the diversity and quality of our music scene. I wonder if a relative lack of international music industry attention (until very recently) allowed NZ musicians to evolve their own sounds without having to subscribe to whatever the current "winning formula" was to gain support. No doubt that labels like Flying Nun and Corpus Hermeticum nutured that individuality and continue to do so .. Subliminals, Dead C, HDU.
Perhaps also the past situation where, aside from the Ray Columbuss' and Finns of this country, it had been very hard for musicains to live solely off their music. There simply wasn't the buying power here to support them. So this may have kept songwriting away from being a 'day job' which surely allowed a great deal more creative freedom and experimentation?
And finally condensed but blazing scenes like Dunedin, Wellington and Auckland feed of each other, allowing for some exciting new tangents to emerge. I think that this is definitely one of the reasons NZ music remains so special in the face of an international music industry.
Think ya hit the nail on the head there teina. Do you also think there is a kind of nurturing thing happening in NZ with what seems to be an ever increasing amount of young talent developing through things like Rockquest and the like???Dont know what its like overseas but here theres definitely encouragement and support , a la NZ on Airs Phase 4 project, for up & coming acts which in turn creates an identity young bands can aspire to. Its all good i reckon.
definitely deek. I also think the whole support industry (venues, soundies, roadies, lighting, video directors) all tends to grow/learn/take risks alongside the musicians. it's an incredible accessable and communal vibe at the moment - which really is like living in paradise with musicians wandering the streets like the blessed... I have days in wellington where you'll bump into d-super, tookie, jon toogood, julia deans, dj mu, trinity roots, marystaple on the way home. its rare to not have lunch at a cafe alongside someone who's creatively expressing themselves to the nation...
annnnnnnd...
mingo - its a weird thing cos I really love so much music no matter where it comes from (regionally) but I have to honestly, no shit, say that there is way more music here that REALLY gets you intellectually and emotionally... and i really have absolutely no idea why that is - it just is... but hey, thats why this site exists... everyone give props to mingo cos he's our man in san fran who 'got it' before anyone else did...
I love NZ music, my favourite bands being STERIOGRAM, Zed, Goodshirt, i also love Deluxeboy, Augustino, Slim, a bit of Shihad, Breathe, The Feelers, Garageland, WASH and all that. I think taking into perspective the small size of our country and the vastnessof the overseas market that we are doing really well and i hope that us NZers can continue to support their bands!
It's coz the musics coming from our own country which makes the good music so much better. And also the government doesnt really support the music industry so we sorta sub-consciously like them even more, and we wanna show off to the rest of the world that NZ is up to it!
NZ music has the potential to take the world by storm, the only thing holding it back, unfortunately, is the relatively small initial potential market for new bands to 'get off the ground'. To promote music at a local level is one thing, but to promote our music offshore is another. We are so lucky in old NZ in that we are able to draw our influences from various local cultures and add to that some of the popular sounds we get from places like Europe and the States. I think that especially in the last two years, we have seen a dramatic increase in the sophistication of NZ sounds and that is what will win out in the end on the International scene. NZ will produce some international quality acts in the near future that will succeed globally.Bands like Goodshirt, Tadpole, Blindspott etc...I believe, are just starting to lead the way.
Don't stab me here because I'm not Kiwi, but I thought this section could use a little bit of an outside opinion as well. Canadian to be more specific. (I can relate to the Kiw music exposure 'problem')
As far as the international scene goes, NZ music has a long way to go. When I look at the top bands list on here, and I think about who would I have heard of if I never came to this site, there is only one band out of the top 200 (or however high it went). Pavement. And even they are not extremely well known here. And trust me I get over-exposed to the US market, so anything they see, I see, but not the other way around. American music is not exactly great, let me say that. So why don't they get some better bands from here and NZ?
We have the same problem here in Canada. Some amazing music, but most of it is destined to stay here. And when bands do make it in the broader scene (usually refering to the States), it lacks to impress me because usually it is a band you don't particulary want to see your country's name attatched to.
ANYWAYS, I don't know if keeping good music in the country is a problem or not, but I think that the BIGGER problem we should be asking is, how do we keep the bad music out!? That, is what is contaminating our poor innocent countries with undesirable influences for our developing musical talent.
I agree with a previous post, that maybe it's the isolation that creates the NZ sound. To do well in NZ as a musician or band, you really do have to be extraordinarily good. You've got all this competition from all over the world, from countries whose music industry generates more income than other countries put together. That forces NZ musicians to raise the bar, and from the few that have it together even fewer have access to the funding they need to make it happen. "NZonair" is helping things out a lot- they have $200,000.00 per year to give to 40 brand new bands/musicians who have a shot at airplay. That's great! But passionate, talented musicians would do whatever it takes to get there anyway. Isn't it great to live in a country that believes in it' s talented musicians enough to give them $5000.00 in the recording studio?! ;)
we can relate to nz music and thats why we love, its also true that nz bands arent afraid to experiment, they just be themselves and produce unique music
Thinking about your question Chelsea.....i was going to say small fish - big pond but i dont think its as simple as that....i do wonder how much money would be needed to promote kiwi music to the rest of the planet??? Anyway does it really matter...after all...it is OUR unique music/culture...whatever, and who cares if the rest of the world dont get into it - Lets enjoy and be proud of our private universe i say...
Big ups tho to any talented kiwis who can break through and get noticed on the international scene.
I'm sure everyone in NZ has the feeling about NZ music that it is SOOO good it can't NOT be shared with the world!!
But on the other hand, the fact that it is GREAT music that is mostly heard by only kiwis, I think kind of gives an exclusive feeling that people love.
I mean WE are the select group of people in the world able to enjoy some really excellent music! I mean sure, sharing it with the world would be nice (and great for the bands success), BUT keeping it for yourselves gives a HUGE FEELING of community closeness between all the fans.
If I am making sense good, but this site definitely has contributed to this view on things for me! I am jjust really glad I discovered kiwi music for myself!
Hmm, I'm the opposite, I want as many people overseas as I know (and more) to hear kiwi music, heck I even made a mix CD (though not all the songs were on there that I wanted) that I have sent to a few friends in the States. So far Shihad are instant favs.
Oh well, I guess my point really is that the music SHOULD be shared with the world, but there will always be those songs that don't get out there, and we will love them even more because of it.
this whole - keep-it-private / tell-it-to-the-world thing interests me. I think part of the reason we like to have some music that is more private / obscure is because we (music lovers) attach/afford so much of our personal identities to the music we like. There is a time in our lives when we define friendships on musical tastes (ditching a friend because they don't understand the genius of some obscure cult-following band), but i think we all mellow and come to accept other peoples' tastes over time. There's always that special stuff that you feel you'll always understand/love/connect with more than the next person (i bet they're thinking the same thing as well!) For me - this website sits at the junction of these two ideas - we're all keen to share the brilliance of the local music scene with a global audience, but we're also about creating a community of the people who are keen to explore the nooks and crannies of the music - eg a Shihad fan finds the site - watches the videos, joins in the voting, comments, etc, but along the way discovers marystaple, squirm (the long lost...), HDU etc etc - someone's special favourite or the next big thing.
That's exactly how I got here bert, and I totally agree with you. When we really love a certain song, that song becomes a part of ourselves, and that's why people get so defensive when a band becomes big and they say "Well I liked them first!"
It's not really that imature to do that, but more of a natural reaction. It's like an ex girl or boyfriend that you still like having a new partner. Is the feeling jealousy, possessiveness, or is that you feel you've lost a piece of yourself to someone else?
Ohhh, you opened up a whole new outlook on this for me.
I love these discussions.
thats easy NZ music is all mainly people writing AND playing their OWN music, and instead of all boy bands or All girl bands their play instruments.
And we almost all know people in Bands, my friend Racheal knows Nathan and Adrian From Zed, and my brother is in a band ST8-88 and they all indentify with us, coz its homegrown.
so yes!!! i fully agree with you ay. i reckon NZ music rox and it keeps gettin better. i knew joe from betchadupa, i was friends with him in welly at the age of 12/13. he was in a band with sum of my friends! funny shit, it neva crossed our minds that one of us would bcum so successful. homegrown music is the shit, we're so much more original and alternative compared to overseas.
I'm listening to a song right now that is #2 in Canada, and I know both of the guys in the band. They write and play their own music. I'd be more than happy to see them be successful internationally. Check 'em out if you want, their first single is called "California".
i miss kiwi music very much, having returned to canada after a five month visit. i don't know why i liked nz music so much, i just did. sure it has its share of crap, but it seems to be less frequent than say the USA.
the canadian scene is shadowed greatly by the neighbouring american one, so our bands evolve on their own, much like nz bands seem to.
I too miss New Zealand music, as I have been living in Scotland for the last 6 years, however it is always fun playing the likes of HDU, The Clean, and HLAH at parties, and watching the Scots freak out .
Favourites over here are Chris Knox doing Mother and SOS, and the Cross Channel Multi Tap album...
NEW ZEALAND MUSIC ROX!!!!
im loving it that so many more nz bands are becoming successful and doing their thing. its great to see the talent thats been hidden for so long. and im loving this website which ive only just discovered! cheers guys :)
I dont think theres anything special about kiwi music, theres good nz music, and theres shit kiwi music, theres good australian music and theres shit australian music etc etc, but its a bonus knowing that its gonna be easier to be able to see them live, which is what i reckon its all about.
ah ok there are far too many posts for me to read at the moment, without getting the worlds biggest headache, so i'm not sure how irrevelant this sounds to the rest of what peope are saying but just want to say that....
ok, i think there is a lot unique about NZ music...maybe it's harder to see when you are actually from nz, but i'm an aussie and can see it all loud and clear.
The kiwis have this very special blend of rock, they just rock harder than any other country on the planet. It obvious that with time, there will spring corporates from NZ as well, but i don't think you have that many. IN Aus there are some good bands, but also a majority of very corporate and completely stylised bands.
For instance, we have a radio station TRIPLE J, for "alternative" music. Unfortunetly, they play stuff like Eminem and Limp Bizkit all day long and really do neglect aussie bands. They have an unearthed competitin every year that thousands and thousands of bands enter, and the only two relatively successfull bands to come from this are grinspoon and killing hiedi.
KILLING HIEDI. killing hiedi. ARRRRRGGGGGHHH!!!!!! PLEASE DO NOT TRY TELLING ME THAT KILLING HIEDI WERE THE BEST BAND THEY COULD FIND.
they weren't. but they had the image. and although the radio station is "alternativE" there are still a lot of try-hards who listen in and think "oh yeah, killing hiedi are wierd. oh yeah i'm a tool, and i love them!" ...killing hiedi were also auditioned a new member b/c the first bassist "didn't fit the style"...
NOw basically, this is the future of rock in aus. yes, you do have your good bands. but more venues are shutting down, and triple j gets more pathetic with every passing year. So basically, I love KIWI music for the fact, that is rocks a lot harder than anything else. IN aus ZED will still be seen as a "rock band" because they are by triple j standards. But in NZ you guys dont go for that.
It's probably hard to see but kiwi tunes have this amazing blend, its really wonderful. it's a lot smoother. very, very rocking. anyway that's all for now, this was all a little rushed so make i hope sense does.
HeY ResPEcT ANd aLL tHaT sHiT To yA...........but............KILLING HEIDI ARE THE SHIT!! wat may i ask is wrong with their beautiful compostions??? I luv havin a good old fashion rip up to olg killing heidi.....and u gotta admit that eLL@ HoOpEr is tHe sHiT!! i cood write a whole page on why i luv that band...but i wont bore ya....jus saying dont get dwn on them...they may be aussie...but its not their fault were they're born!!!
PeAcE oUt...
we need to use more number eight wire
and less imported generic sounds
get back to good ol kiwi ingenuity
look within - hide under a stone - play music to save yourself
- don't expect to make millions - don't do it for recognition
play for people / to people / use music to SPEAK to people
chris knox springs to mind
hey wow i write stuff and total strangers read it. how cool. im sorta new to this whole message board thing if ya can tell. yeh im a regular computer whiz. aaanyways i think nz music is so rad. my boyfriend lives in new zealand and im waaay the hell over here in the states. so.... umm.... yeah, you guys rock and thank you for taking the time to read this.
like i said my boyfriend lives over there and he got me into the nz music scene. i wanted to find some stuff so i typed in nz music into my handy browser and bing bang boom there yall are. congrats on the awesome site. obviously we dont get much from you over here so its cool to be able to watch vids and stuff. much luv from the east coast
One thing I like about NZ musicians, is the way almost all of them start up with their friends in a high school band, and practise in their garages with equipment thats not top of the line. It produces talent, there is thankfully a lack of manufactured pop bands here.
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Hey mingo - it used to be the Flying ...
Hey mingo - it used to be the Flying Nun sound that made Kiwi music unique but thats no longer the case. The scene here is now a real hybrid and hotchpotch of overseas influences...we even have a boy band....with guitars ...he he ...(not mentioning any names for fear of retribution!!!) I think NZ music is as diverse as anywhere on the planet and covers the full range of genres from hiphop through to hardcore. Dont get me wrong though ...the Flying Nun thing is still a force to be reckoned with on our fair shores and I think it would be fair to say that it has a had a major influence on some overseas underground/alternative bands. waddaya reckon???
Definately fair to say that F.Nun had a ...
Definately fair to say that F.Nun had a mass influence on our shores and beyond ...but don't fogret there was a band called The Velvet Underground that came along well before any of that stuff and also F.Nun was very hit and miss...ie: That put out a fuck load of shit of which only some of was actually good.....There is also a point to be made here that most genres of music are now represented in most countries worldwide so don't go too far up your kiwi ass on that one buddy....he he ...based in Aus at the mo and i have to say I am sorely missing those fine kiwi sounds....boo hhoooo Bfm I miss and love you.......
You proclaimed: "There is also a point ...
You proclaimed:
"There is also a point to be made here that most genres of music are now represented in most countries worldwide so don't go too far up your kiwi ass on that one buddy....he he"
err yeah didn't he mention that ("I think NZ music is as diverse as anywhere on the planet") , or was that some joke I'm just not getting?
Oh, we got a boyband without guitars ...
Oh, we got a boyband without guitars now...
Could be. Would it be fair to say that ...
Could be. Would it be fair to say that most of today's NZ musicians have been influenced by the presence or legacy of Flying Nun, maybe not directly, but in some way the FN opened some doors that musicians have continued to build on? I don't want to get too theoretical, but it seems more than just a coincidence that there is such a dynamic scene in such a relatively small place...and I guess I wanna know what people think. Cheer-i-o
one reason I think kiwi music rocks is ...
one reason I think kiwi music rocks is that the kiwi bands aren't afraid to experiment with their sounds, getting something entirely new and different. Whatever the reason, it' s good.
I think isolation has had a great deal ...
I think isolation has had a great deal to do with the diversity and quality of our music scene. I wonder if a relative lack of international music industry attention (until very recently) allowed NZ musicians to evolve their own sounds without having to subscribe to whatever the current "winning formula" was to gain support. No doubt that labels like Flying Nun and Corpus Hermeticum nutured that individuality and continue to do so .. Subliminals, Dead C, HDU.
Perhaps also the past situation where, aside from the Ray Columbuss' and Finns of this country, it had been very hard for musicains to live solely off their music. There simply wasn't the buying power here to support them. So this may have kept songwriting away from being a 'day job' which surely allowed a great deal more creative freedom and experimentation?
And finally condensed but blazing scenes like Dunedin, Wellington and Auckland feed of each other, allowing for some exciting new tangents to emerge. I think that this is definitely one of the reasons NZ music remains so special in the face of an international music industry.
Think ya hit the nail on the head there ...
Think ya hit the nail on the head there teina. Do you also think there is a kind of nurturing thing happening in NZ with what seems to be an ever increasing amount of young talent developing through things like Rockquest and the like???Dont know what its like overseas but here theres definitely encouragement and support , a la NZ on Airs Phase 4 project, for up & coming acts which in turn creates an identity young bands can aspire to. Its all good i reckon.
definitely deek. I also think the whole ...
definitely deek. I also think the whole support industry (venues, soundies, roadies, lighting, video directors) all tends to grow/learn/take risks alongside the musicians. it's an incredible accessable and communal vibe at the moment - which really is like living in paradise with musicians wandering the streets like the blessed... I have days in wellington where you'll bump into d-super, tookie, jon toogood, julia deans, dj mu, trinity roots, marystaple on the way home. its rare to not have lunch at a cafe alongside someone who's creatively expressing themselves to the nation...
Oh you name dropper you...
Oh you name dropper you
annnnnnnd...<p> mingo - its a weird ...
annnnnnnd...
mingo - its a weird thing cos I really love so much music no matter where it comes from (regionally) but I have to honestly, no shit, say that there is way more music here that REALLY gets you intellectually and emotionally... and i really have absolutely no idea why that is - it just is... but hey, thats why this site exists... everyone give props to mingo cos he's our man in san fran who 'got it' before anyone else did...
I love NZ music, my favourite bands ...
I love NZ music, my favourite bands being STERIOGRAM, Zed, Goodshirt, i also love Deluxeboy, Augustino, Slim, a bit of Shihad, Breathe, The Feelers, Garageland, WASH and all that. I think taking into perspective the small size of our country and the vastnessof the overseas market that we are doing really well and i hope that us NZers can continue to support their bands!
It's coz the musics coming from our ...
It's coz the musics coming from our own country which makes the good music so much better. And also the government doesnt really support the music industry so we sorta sub-consciously like them even more, and we wanna show off to the rest of the world that NZ is up to it!
NZ music has the potential to take the ...
NZ music has the potential to take the world by storm, the only thing holding it back, unfortunately, is the relatively small initial potential market for new bands to 'get off the ground'. To promote music at a local level is one thing, but to promote our music offshore is another. We are so lucky in old NZ in that we are able to draw our influences from various local cultures and add to that some of the popular sounds we get from places like Europe and the States. I think that especially in the last two years, we have seen a dramatic increase in the sophistication of NZ sounds and that is what will win out in the end on the International scene. NZ will produce some international quality acts in the near future that will succeed globally.Bands like Goodshirt, Tadpole, Blindspott etc...I believe, are just starting to lead the way.
Thanks for all the input - well ...
Thanks for all the input - well articulated and interesting. Til the next time!
ummmm first i totally agree with ...
ummmm first i totally agree with everyone else so far but i also wonder if part of the reason we love kiwi music is coz we identify with it more??
Don't stab me here because I'm not ...
Don't stab me here because I'm not Kiwi, but I thought this section could use a little bit of an outside opinion as well. Canadian to be more specific. (I can relate to the Kiw music exposure 'problem')
As far as the international scene goes, NZ music has a long way to go. When I look at the top bands list on here, and I think about who would I have heard of if I never came to this site, there is only one band out of the top 200 (or however high it went). Pavement. And even they are not extremely well known here. And trust me I get over-exposed to the US market, so anything they see, I see, but not the other way around. American music is not exactly great, let me say that. So why don't they get some better bands from here and NZ?
We have the same problem here in Canada. Some amazing music, but most of it is destined to stay here. And when bands do make it in the broader scene (usually refering to the States), it lacks to impress me because usually it is a band you don't particulary want to see your country's name attatched to.
ANYWAYS, I don't know if keeping good music in the country is a problem or not, but I think that the BIGGER problem we should be asking is, how do we keep the bad music out!? That, is what is contaminating our poor innocent countries with undesirable influences for our developing musical talent.
And that's that.
Maybe we should do some sort of music ...
Maybe we should do some sort of music swap or something. You tell us about some of your good Canadian music, and spread the word about us over there.
By the way, Dust - thanks for kind ...
By the way, Dust - thanks for kind words. Big ups to ya'll for having this site at all!
Mingo
Maybe the problem is part of the ...
Maybe the problem is part of the solution.
I agree with a previous post, that maybe it's the isolation that creates the NZ sound. To do well in NZ as a musician or band, you really do have to be extraordinarily good. You've got all this competition from all over the world, from countries whose music industry generates more income than other countries put together. That forces NZ musicians to raise the bar, and from the few that have it together even fewer have access to the funding they need to make it happen. "NZonair" is helping things out a lot- they have $200,000.00 per year to give to 40 brand new bands/musicians who have a shot at airplay. That's great! But passionate, talented musicians would do whatever it takes to get there anyway. Isn't it great to live in a country that believes in it' s talented musicians enough to give them $5000.00 in the recording studio?! ;)
-Peace
we can relate to nz music and thats why ...
we can relate to nz music and thats why we love, its also true that nz bands arent afraid to experiment, they just be themselves and produce unique music
I really like NZ music. I think it ...
I really like NZ music. I think it sounds as good as any otha music in the world. I wonder why we dont really succeed overseas????
good question. I think it is probably ...
good question. I think it is probably the fact that no-one wants to front up the funds.
Thinking about your question ...
Thinking about your question Chelsea.....i was going to say small fish - big pond but i dont think its as simple as that....i do wonder how much money would be needed to promote kiwi music to the rest of the planet??? Anyway does it really matter...after all...it is OUR unique music/culture...whatever, and who cares if the rest of the world dont get into it - Lets enjoy and be proud of our private universe i say...
Big ups tho to any talented kiwis who can break through and get noticed on the international scene.
Lets keep it a secret... who wants to ...
Lets keep it a secret... who wants to share HDU or The Clean with the big fish anyway?
I agree with the keep it a secret ...
I agree with the keep it a secret part!
I'm sure everyone in NZ has the feeling about NZ music that it is SOOO good it can't NOT be shared with the world!!
But on the other hand, the fact that it is GREAT music that is mostly heard by only kiwis, I think kind of gives an exclusive feeling that people love.
I mean WE are the select group of people in the world able to enjoy some really excellent music! I mean sure, sharing it with the world would be nice (and great for the bands success), BUT keeping it for yourselves gives a HUGE FEELING of community closeness between all the fans.
If I am making sense good, but this site definitely has contributed to this view on things for me! I am jjust really glad I discovered kiwi music for myself!
*peace signs to all*
Hmm, I'm the opposite, I want as many ...
Hmm, I'm the opposite, I want as many people overseas as I know (and more) to hear kiwi music, heck I even made a mix CD (though not all the songs were on there that I wanted) that I have sent to a few friends in the States. So far Shihad are instant favs.
Yeah maybe I'm a bit selfish, ...
Yeah maybe I'm a bit selfish, eh?
Oh well, I guess my point really is that the music SHOULD be shared with the world, but there will always be those songs that don't get out there, and we will love them even more because of it.
Is that better?
sorry, yeah I understand that. I have ...
sorry, yeah I understand that. I have my bands that are semi-obscure that I probably love a tad more because of that.
this whole - keep-it-private / ...
this whole - keep-it-private / tell-it-to-the-world thing interests me. I think part of the reason we like to have some music that is more private / obscure is because we (music lovers) attach/afford so much of our personal identities to the music we like. There is a time in our lives when we define friendships on musical tastes (ditching a friend because they don't understand the genius of some obscure cult-following band), but i think we all mellow and come to accept other peoples' tastes over time. There's always that special stuff that you feel you'll always understand/love/connect with more than the next person (i bet they're thinking the same thing as well!) For me - this website sits at the junction of these two ideas - we're all keen to share the brilliance of the local music scene with a global audience, but we're also about creating a community of the people who are keen to explore the nooks and crannies of the music - eg a Shihad fan finds the site - watches the videos, joins in the voting, comments, etc, but along the way discovers marystaple, squirm (the long lost...), HDU etc etc - someone's special favourite or the next big thing.
That's exactly how I got here bert, ...
That's exactly how I got here bert, and I totally agree with you. When we really love a certain song, that song becomes a part of ourselves, and that's why people get so defensive when a band becomes big and they say "Well I liked them first!"
It's not really that imature to do that, but more of a natural reaction. It's like an ex girl or boyfriend that you still like having a new partner. Is the feeling jealousy, possessiveness, or is that you feel you've lost a piece of yourself to someone else?
Ohhh, you opened up a whole new outlook on this for me.
I love these discussions.
thats easy NZ music is all mainly ...
thats easy NZ music is all mainly people writing AND playing their OWN music, and instead of all boy bands or All girl bands their play instruments.
And we almost all know people in Bands, my friend Racheal knows Nathan and Adrian From Zed, and my brother is in a band ST8-88 and they all indentify with us, coz its homegrown.
i know Nath and Age too :)...
i know Nath and Age too :)
YAY!!!! YAY!!!!...
YAY!!!! YAY!!!!
so yes!!! i fully agree with you ay. i ...
so yes!!! i fully agree with you ay. i reckon NZ music rox and it keeps gettin better. i knew joe from betchadupa, i was friends with him in welly at the age of 12/13. he was in a band with sum of my friends! funny shit, it neva crossed our minds that one of us would bcum so successful. homegrown music is the shit, we're so much more original and alternative compared to overseas.
you are all damn right!!...
you are all damn right!!
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I'm listening to a song right now that ...
I'm listening to a song right now that is #2 in Canada, and I know both of the guys in the band. They write and play their own music. I'd be more than happy to see them be successful internationally. Check 'em out if you want, their first single is called "California".
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ear candy......
ear candy...
i miss kiwi music very much, having ...
i miss kiwi music very much, having returned to canada after a five month visit. i don't know why i liked nz music so much, i just did. sure it has its share of crap, but it seems to be less frequent than say the USA.
the canadian scene is shadowed greatly by the neighbouring american one, so our bands evolve on their own, much like nz bands seem to.
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I too miss New Zealand music, as I have ...
I too miss New Zealand music, as I have been living in Scotland for the last 6 years, however it is always fun playing the likes of HDU, The Clean, and HLAH at parties, and watching the Scots freak out .
Favourites over here are Chris Knox doing Mother and SOS, and the Cross Channel Multi Tap album...
NEW ZEALAND MUSIC ROX!!!! im loving it ...
NEW ZEALAND MUSIC ROX!!!!
im loving it that so many more nz bands are becoming successful and doing their thing. its great to see the talent thats been hidden for so long. and im loving this website which ive only just discovered! cheers guys :)
I dont think theres anything special ...
I dont think theres anything special about kiwi music, theres good nz music, and theres shit kiwi music, theres good australian music and theres shit australian music etc etc, but its a bonus knowing that its gonna be easier to be able to see them live, which is what i reckon its all about.
ah ok there are far too many posts for ...
ah ok there are far too many posts for me to read at the moment, without getting the worlds biggest headache, so i'm not sure how irrevelant this sounds to the rest of what peope are saying but just want to say that....
ok, i think there is a lot unique about NZ music...maybe it's harder to see when you are actually from nz, but i'm an aussie and can see it all loud and clear.
The kiwis have this very special blend of rock, they just rock harder than any other country on the planet. It obvious that with time, there will spring corporates from NZ as well, but i don't think you have that many. IN Aus there are some good bands, but also a majority of very corporate and completely stylised bands.
For instance, we have a radio station TRIPLE J, for "alternative" music. Unfortunetly, they play stuff like Eminem and Limp Bizkit all day long and really do neglect aussie bands. They have an unearthed competitin every year that thousands and thousands of bands enter, and the only two relatively successfull bands to come from this are grinspoon and killing hiedi.
KILLING HIEDI. killing hiedi. ARRRRRGGGGGHHH!!!!!! PLEASE DO NOT TRY TELLING ME THAT KILLING HIEDI WERE THE BEST BAND THEY COULD FIND.
they weren't. but they had the image. and although the radio station is "alternativE" there are still a lot of try-hards who listen in and think "oh yeah, killing hiedi are wierd. oh yeah i'm a tool, and i love them!" ...killing hiedi were also auditioned a new member b/c the first bassist "didn't fit the style"...
NOw basically, this is the future of rock in aus. yes, you do have your good bands. but more venues are shutting down, and triple j gets more pathetic with every passing year. So basically, I love KIWI music for the fact, that is rocks a lot harder than anything else. IN aus ZED will still be seen as a "rock band" because they are by triple j standards. But in NZ you guys dont go for that.
It's probably hard to see but kiwi tunes have this amazing blend, its really wonderful. it's a lot smoother. very, very rocking. anyway that's all for now, this was all a little rushed so make i hope sense does.
thankyou ;-)
HeY ResPEcT ANd aLL tHaT sHiT To ...
HeY ResPEcT ANd aLL tHaT sHiT To yA...........but............KILLING HEIDI ARE THE SHIT!! wat may i ask is wrong with their beautiful compostions??? I luv havin a good old fashion rip up to olg killing heidi.....and u gotta admit that eLL@ HoOpEr is tHe sHiT!! i cood write a whole page on why i luv that band...but i wont bore ya....jus saying dont get dwn on them...they may be aussie...but its not their fault were they're born!!!
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we need to use more number eight ...
we need to use more number eight wire
and less imported generic sounds
get back to good ol kiwi ingenuity
look within - hide under a stone - play music to save yourself
- don't expect to make millions - don't do it for recognition
play for people / to people / use music to SPEAK to people
chris knox springs to mind
hey wow i write stuff and total ...
hey wow i write stuff and total strangers read it. how cool. im sorta new to this whole message board thing if ya can tell. yeh im a regular computer whiz. aaanyways i think nz music is so rad. my boyfriend lives in new zealand and im waaay the hell over here in the states. so.... umm.... yeah, you guys rock and thank you for taking the time to read this.
hey erin224. yeah it's all about ...
hey erin224. yeah it's all about connections. wassup with all the fine north american signups lately? Howdya find us...!
like i said my boyfriend lives over ...
like i said my boyfriend lives over there and he got me into the nz music scene. i wanted to find some stuff so i typed in nz music into my handy browser and bing bang boom there yall are. congrats on the awesome site. obviously we dont get much from you over here so its cool to be able to watch vids and stuff. much luv from the east coast
One thing I like about NZ musicians, is ...
One thing I like about NZ musicians, is the way almost all of them start up with their friends in a high school band, and practise in their garages with equipment thats not top of the line. It produces talent, there is thankfully a lack of manufactured pop bands here.
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I sense the lack is lessening...
I sense the lack is lessening