whats happening with Zac De La Rocha??

(maybe error in spelling on last name, my bad if it wrong).

whats happening with him, i heard he was making a hip hop album, is this true?

does anyone know anything thats for sure ??

Forums: The Bar,

he is laying low in Mexico, exchanging guns for pencils.

nah seriously ive heard nothing of a new album. It will come tho

apparently he recorded the album but thought it was too polished so he called in trent reznor to produce. i think he's been keeping a low profile to let audioslave release their shite and let the fuss die down.

he's collaborating with dj shadow, roni size, dan the automater, ?uestlove and maybe a few others. there's a few tracks he's appeared on in the last few years. he remixed outkast's BOB, contributed vocals with roni size, blackalicious, CIA and drummed on a bside to dj sahdow's private press.

and every now and then, i see him on online. word.

Wow, Zac de la Rocha and Trent Reznor! How much cooler can you get??

//contributed vocals with roni size
got that CD. Fuckin awesome.

thanks for that dude :). nice to know a little bit of info.

now to hyjack this thread...

What i was meaning in that other thread is that bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit, Blindspott etc are not really screaming about anything. Its all just lyrical fabrication.

RATM have no equals

i agree with that limp bizkit, blindspott comment (even though i like blindspott, have their album etc)but i think Johnathan Davis does have a good reason why he "screams". He (as you put it) "screams" about his dad being a prick and walking out so on, so on....which ACTUALLY happened so i reckon thats reason enough

oh the angst! screaming about your dad walking out! woah thats heavy man.

Millions of human rights being abused buy governments world wide has nothing on his dad

by not buy

korn are just as stupid as every other rock rap band with noting to say

Try not to be PC manamana - anyway, the Korn lead singer has been to hell and back judging by his lyrics (especially to non-single more obscure songs). Angst is a word often thrown about by people who are either:

1. Happy and untainted and therefore unwilling to accept that someone has experienced torment.
2. Cowards - who believe that such pain or "angst" must be postured b/c no one would openly discuss such things if they really were true.
3. Correct (but rarely)
4. None too bright - pooling together bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit and Blindspott who aren't similar anyway. In fact, Korn and Limp Bizkit are like the north and south poles - both cold, but still a world apart.
5. People who are in pain, who think that they are the only ones.
6. People who think singing about oneself intimately is a form of self-absorption.......IT IS! It's called songwriting.

nicely put.

manamana why dont you find out abit about korn and john davis before you post ignorant judging comments about him.

i agree with nonbreed, find out more about korn and jon. they are actually a wicked band which lots of people (not saying around here cause i'm not to sure) rather enjoy their music lots. i can name the reasons why but i'd be here all day typing it out.

// Korn are over-rated crap!!

ok how about no!, they are one of the worlds best acts today.

// The world would be a better place without Korn. What the fuck is their new single supposed to be? It sure does sound like a shitty attempt at a ballad to me.

saul hudson why don't you just shut up and crawl back into that little hole you came from. The world would be a much better place without you.

There is real reason fot these people to scream, John Davis wrote all his songs that he's *allowed* to scream in on the first album so I don't see any point in him screaming anymore.

//// Korn are over-rated crap!!

//ok how about no!, they are one of the worlds best acts today.

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opps, didn't think that would all go on one line

looks like I fucked up the layout a little, sorry

// saul hudson why don't you just shut up and crawl back into that little hole you came from. The world would be a much better place without you.

haha, I crown you the king of comebacks. Lame personal attacks just don't cut it. What you can't defend Korn's shitty ballad?

// looks like I fucked up the layout a little, sorry

Fuck it man, regardless if you did or not it was a totally appropriate post.

// manamana why dont you find out abit about korn and john davis before you post ignorant judging comments about him.

why dont you fuck off?

// i agree with nonbreed, find out more about korn and jon. they are actually a wicked band

I know enough to know i dont want to know anymore. You listen to what you want man.

//// saul hudson why don't you just shut up and crawl back into that little hole you came from. The world would be a much better place without you.

k i posted that? wow antibiotics really do stuff do you eh?

// haha, I crown you the king of comebacks. Lame personal attacks just don't cut it. What you can't defend Korn's shitty ballad?

i just laugh at that one, at the korn and shitty ballad part. :)

//looks like I fucked up the layout a little

oh my god! its ruined!
YOU FUCKED UP NZMUSIC.COM!!!!

LET'S GET HIM, PROZACO!!

Korn are over-rated crap!!

hehe, I'm plan worked!!

MY plan worked

Trust Nonbreed to like Korn, but then again birds of a feather flock together.

The world would be a better place without Korn. What the fuck is their new single supposed to be? It sure does sound like a shitty attempt at a ballad to me.

//It sure does sound like a shitty attempt at a ballad to me.

So what no-ones allowed to experiment writing "ballads" unless they are anything short of Guns N Roses? Korn have made many shitty attempts that are way worse than that "ballad".

//cunnsta

I hope that was just a typo womanamana.

//an attempt at wit?

No - just trying to explain something to you that you perhaps didn't understand or, more likely, went straight over your inflated head.

Hell, Saul Hudson had to back you up - need I say more?

Did I say that?

I would address it manamana except for the fact that your ego has mistakenly made U think the list/explanation applies directly to you - which it does not. These bands are pooled together in various assorted posts throughout the site - that is what I mean. The only angle that applies to you is the one that suggests your knowledge of, and attitude towards, "angst" is predictable and dismissive.

As for the bogans/nu friends comment, I'm not quite sure what U mean. Especially since I don't remember ever saying that I was really into the bands personally. U associate sticking up for something with liking it, because your motives for being defensive about something are usually selfishly motivated. This might explain why you thought that my original post was solely about you.

I don't like Limp Bizkit at all and I have not heard a lot of Korn. I do, however, really like Staind, who have also being hit with the angst label etc etc - people will always pidgeon-hole that which they do not understand, or that which becomes easy to deal with once it has been labelled.

My apologies to Saul for dragging him in.

Trust Saul to be a pain in the arse.
The world would be a better place withought you.

Damn Saul, dont you reek of pleasentness.

Im not the hugest fan of Korn, i have a few of their albums though, and that newish song, Thoughtless, is fucking wicked! Though in saying that, some of their songs can be REALLY, REALLY shit. But i still reckon Johnathon Davis does 'scream' for good reasons. He was truamatised by his dad leaving, and gets panic attacks, even now which he has to take pills, probably for the rest of his life. Just cause of his dad. If that happened to me, i think i might be slightly more than annoyed at my dad. Wouldn't you? And also because of him getting panic attacks, when he was young he got bullied heaps and if you read the lyrics for Thoughtless, you'll see its about those experiences. So perhaps you DON'T know.

//YOU FUCKED UP NZMUSIC.COM!!!!

nope im pretty sure i have

Sarcasm is pretty hard to pick up in written from, so I'll just have to give U the benefit of the doubt on that one........but thst U think they have nothing to say, I don't agree. That seems similar to the angle that people have that angst/sombre or melancholy lyrics have no positive effect on those who have suffered or are suffering - in fact, I would say that such lyrics and moods are extremely therapeutic in that they make people feel reinforced and/or not alone. Suddenly they are not fighting their provate war alone, because they stand on the shoulders of those who have come through the mire.

U come across as being uncomfortable with the idea of sadness - hence "corny" - perhaps you meant to say //I was merely expressing my view that these bands seem to put so much feeling into lyrics that mean nothing [TO ME]

he was also an alcoholic druggy and sex addict....

and also on the topic of screaming, on m2 last night i realised most of those "retro rock" bands like the datsuns and d4 scream aswell so does this make them pathetic??or are they speical

If you look back to the start of this thread you will see it was origionaly supposed to be about bands that scream and what they are screaming about. I never questioned the therapeutic worth of sad songs or melancholy lyrics. (not saying you said i did either)

RATM are one of the few bands that i recognise as legitimate in their screaming. Human rights abuse is not something to be laughed and definatly somethhing worth screaming about. RATM are active in the causes they preach aswell. Now when i hear these other bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit etc put all this supposed feeling into screaming, and then actually read their lyrical content - well im sorry, but if that is all they have to scream about then im just gonna laugh at them.

When i think about what they could be screaming about and what they are, then i come to the conclusion that they are really saying nothing.

isnt it funny how a topic can swing so much over a little comment, most of these posts have nothing to do with zac.

//Trust Nonbreed to like Korn, but then again birds of a feather flock together

hmm you know nothing personal about either me or any members of Korn, good one saul
isint this what they call ignorance??

// 4. None too bright - pooling together bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit and Blindspott who aren't similar anyway.

are you actually going to address this?

You knock Saul Hudson, but i suggest you have a look at the posts by your nu bogan friends.

http://www.madatyourdad.com ]

nice list cunnsta, an attempt at wit? or are they somehow supposed to relate to me?

// None too bright - pooling together bands like Korn, Limp Bizkit and Blindspott who aren't similar anyway.

If you read what i wrote you might of realised the only comparrison drawn between the bands i listed was that they all scream.

Hey if you guys feel an emotional connection and can relate to some guy screaming about his dad, or his miserable adidas sponsered life, then good for you. I dont know maybe it helps you vent when your parents ground you and you are really mad and just want to break things.

Ok Seriously though - 9/10 i think screaming is corney, unnecessary and just done for the sake of it. Just my opinion though aye.

chunsta you were replying to my post and you used my name. Forgive me for thinking it was directed at me.

// your knowledge of, and attitude towards, "angst" is predictable and dismissive.

dude you really dont read before you reply do you? I do know what the word angst means, and if you look at the one time i used it i think you will find i was being scarcastic. I was merely expressing my view that these bands seem to put so much feeling into lyrics that mean nothing. Bands like that have been given a mike that extends worldwide and what do they have to say? nothing!

Its all very corny to me man.

My spies tell me he's willing to drop his pants for food.

welcome to arm chair musical critics,
where people vent there frustration and blindly cut each other down in an attempt to establish what every one should or should'nt listian to,

yeah, funny isn't it?