I believe they are a scam.
I'm fucking sick of them coming round with these bullshit posters promoting bullshit commercial products, with no respect posting over posters advertising local gigs.
Local gigs don't get enough promotion....
Over priced energy drinks get too much promotion...
I say we create a hate club. If you ever see a poster promoting anything but a gig, RIP IT THE FUCK DOWN!
What gives them the right to pollute our streets with their shit?
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"What gives them the right to pollute ...
"What gives them the right to pollute our streets with their shit?"
Probably the same right that that allows us the pollute the streets with our shit.
I'm not sure exactly what exactly Profile Plus are doing, but I've always understood that professional postering companies lease spaces (walls, fronts of empty buildings, etc) and then paste their clients posters up there. So if some band comes along and sticks up a gig poster on one of those spaces, then the poster company has the right to take it down or stick something over it, y'know.
But feel free to correct me if I've got anything wrong.
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> "What gives them the right to pollute ...
> "What gives them the right to pollute our streets with their shit?"
> Probably the same right that that allows us the pollute the streets with our shit.
Of course. That's why they should respect other people's posters.
You know that's exactly what I thought.
> "What gives them the right to pollute ...
> "What gives them the right to pollute our streets with their shit?"
> Probably the same right that that allows us the pollute the streets with our shit.
Of course. That's why they should respect other people's posters.
I posted this earlier, closer to when it happend. But when we actually paid them to stick up our posters... paid $500 printing and $100 to get them to stuck them up. They had our posters up for 2 days and then postered over them. So basically.. that was $600 wasted because they ripped us off. I've seen them go out and poster over their own stuff myself, a day after they'd postered up one lot of stuff. Maybe it is true that they own SOME walls and buildings. The council say it is ilegal for them to be doing what they're doing. And it is just impossible for them to own and have the rights to all the spots we stuck ours on. Why? Because it was council property, and we were postering over walls, power boxes, empty bill boards and where I live it is ilegal to stick any posters up. But I figured, if we're promoting for the council, who's going to get in shit? The council are going to fine themselves?
Where I live, people have been known to get fined for sticking up posters.
People have so many stories where they feel ripped off. I'm posting this again because I feel so damn fucked off that I spent a couple of nights postering, and to see EVERY one replaced with a "V" poster, or a "Durex" poster 2 days later. It looks like they have purposely targetted our posters, and got rid of when you see empty spaces on a wall where half ripped posters sit. They could have stuck a poster in one place on the wall but they choose to stick it directly over yours.
SUE THEIR ASSES!! I guess you pretty ...
SUE THEIR ASSES!!
I guess you pretty much can't though...
They should at least wait until the gig is over before they stick up another poster over it.
//Where I live, people have been known ...
//Where I live, people have been known to get fined for sticking up posters.
that is extremely lame, what is it a crime now to support the local music scene?and what law does that come under??
//Where I live, people have been known ...
//Where I live, people have been known to get fined for sticking up posters.
You gotta wonder what the cops priorities are aye. Fining people for putting up posters is sooo much easier then going out to find the real criminals...like the bastards who stole Mana's cd's
Profile plus are swines....
Profile plus are swines.
welcome to the world of viral ...
welcome to the world of viral marketing, expect things to get worse, when people start asking you about products in the street in hope you are the "rep" with $100
it is cheaper than renting a bill board for these large companies. may I suggest trying to come to an agreement with for a set entertainment advertisement spot?
I would think it's logical that if any ...
I would think it's logical that if any company is leasing space to sell advertising, then they should be selling exposure over a particular time period, rather than just selling the resources required to put posters up. After all, their lease with the council would be for a particular time period.
angsty, when you got your posters done, was there any maximum set time period indicated at any time? If there was, then - well, you're kinda screwed, but if not then you've probably got grounds for a complaint based on fair trading laws.
//maximum or more importantly, ...
//maximum
or more importantly, minimum...
unfortunitly it was not me who delt ...
unfortunitly it was not me who delt with the buisness side of things for this incident.
You'd just think that if you were paying some dudes to stick up posters for a gig, that they would allow them to be up for the whole week and a half before the gig. Right?
In the absence of an explicit time ...
In the absence of an explicit time period, I think you could take it to small claims, who would agree the time it would be reasonable for you to expect the posters to stay up. This would determine whether you're entitled to compensation, and how much, and it would definitely take into account the date of the gig. Profile Plus would probably argue that you simply paid the cost of printing and putting the posters up, and not for any specific exposure period. Again, if this was explicitly stated then you're kinda screwed. However, you're right - this is completely unreasonable, even if it was stated, so fighting them for it would at least ensure that they had to reassess their business practices.
This is all just guessing, really. I don't know what kind of an operation PP is, but I imagine that although they haven't been ethical in their dealings with you, they've probably stuck to the letter of the law. The only way to find out would be to look over the paperwork (order forms, receipts) and then drag their arses into court. If you think you have a case, and if you found a bunch of other people that had been similarly mistreated, then the whole thing would probably be worth it.
angsty bro, youve be ripped the fuck off...
angsty bro, youve be ripped the fuck off
Hi Angsty as a singer songwriter who ...
Hi Angsty as a singer songwriter who use to do the postering for the Temple Bar in Auckland for a year at no cost to the bar ,I found on the streets ,there was a code of practice ,fist in first serve.If there were artist's who had a dozen poster's upin one place, you could poster over 1or 2 of their posters as long as you left some advertising up.
I targetted wall's that were already postered and had been for a while,council bill boards ie rubbish tin's
electrical and phone outlets and windows of shop's that had be vacated,over bridges.
What pissed me off was that the advertising companies would go poster over those areas ,over our stuff
and would sue our ass if we postered over their paid advertising space.
I say where they obviously don't pay rip them down mid day if necessary.Just dump the rubbish in the bin.
They have more capital,prime spots for advertising and why should we let them push us out even further.
if you rip all their shit down, ...
if you rip all their shit down, they're going to be more astute about ripping your shit down.
in places where they "own" the postering space they have every right to remove your posters and i'm sure will do so. it would be nice if all postering spaces were "equal opportunity" but money talks and people want best exposure so they're not.
The poster companies have the right to ...
The poster companies have the right to post over other peoples posters. They lease out the space for their clients to use. And besides its defacing public prop, putting up your own posters ads etc.... And the clients pay a lot of money to get those poster put up.
Im sure I had a comment on this once ...
Im sure I had a comment on this once before (?)
Market your own stuff, its the best way, find legalised sources so you can start strutting you stuff. We are always forced to face all these crappy unwanted ads, but some of them are just so cool seeing that they are to do with the music of your choice.
Hehehe... does anybody remember a ...
Hehehe... does anybody remember a number of years ago when Indigo opened in Wellington and the owner went and postered 2,000 blue posters round town (not through the local postering company either)? All there was were blue posters everywhere in town :-)
It would be amusing to see Profile Plus's reaction if someone went round and just constantly postered over all there stuff with just white paper (and continued to do so for a week)...
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I think this is pretty funny. I'm ...
I think this is pretty funny. I'm sorry but you have very few clues as to how the poster business works in auckland. It's not quite so one-sided as you think.
There are THREE poster companies in Auckland. All of who cover each other's work. Also, each company has thier own space as well as just going free-for-all on unleased spaces. Sure in a perfect world it would be great if we could all just put one of each thing up and all leave each others posters, but it's not a perfect world. Also in a poster lala land no-one would put up corporate advertising, but guess what? Small businesses have to put up whatever they can to SURVIVE.
End of the matter is...i recommend going into one of the companies with your posters and asking for placement on leased space. If you want to do it yourself go where the poster companies dont. There are lots of spaces they dont go. Every time i do posters i manage to get them in dozens of spaces where the companies arent going. Do handbills and stick them up in small spaces too. Use your head.