mmm... books.

Does New Zealand have a literary scene? Are there any NZ writers doing interesting things I may be missing, being on the other side of the world?

Being a huge literary geek, I'm interested in what books the NZM Community is reading, NZ author or otherwise.

Part of being a writer is studying other writers; what they do well, what they do differently. I've painted myself into a corner of Southern Post-Modernists and Avant-Pop writers, and it's becoming apparent in my writing. I need a fresh perspective.

Help a writer out. Have you read a book that thrilled you?

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Don't get me started! I'm always reading - even at the Cusp-03 thing, when I should have been with my fellow NZM-ers. there I was reading and chilling to the music. Right now, I'm reading something a little challenging but intensely rewarding in places - Haldur Laxness's "Independent People" - he won the Nobel a while back, its about an Icelandic sheep farmer - mixing philosophy, religion, mysticism, skeptism and downright grit. One of my favourite NZ novels is Keri Hulme's "Bone People", which also has a fair dose of mysticism, child abuse, independence... Another is Kapka Kassabova's "Reconaissance - about an Eastern European's first experience of New Zealand. We have quite a scene, but I am a little out of touch - a couple of the big names in contemporary NZ fiction are Elizabeth Knox (Vinter's Luck, Black Oxen) and Charlotte Grimshaw (the Curative, about a man incarcerated in Bedlam while sane).

Best read of 2002? I think Rohanton Mistry's "A Fine Balance". Close behind it was Richard Russo's first book - Mohawk. Wierdest 2002 read - Magnus Mills "The Restraint of Beasts" which was about fencing, sort of, but with lots of black humour and Kafka.

Ah, but the whole point was to get you started! I'm glad you took the bait.

//One of my favourite NZ novels is Keri Hulme's "Bone People"

I've got this one on my shelves, actually. There were many things I liked about it, but I thought the ending was weak. Being a writer sometimes saps the joy out of reading, in that I'm constantly deconstructing and critiquing. A friend of mine told me she possibly has a second book in the works. Any truth?

Keri Hulme has had a second book in the pipeline for absolutely yonks - a couple of years ago, there was even a title and publication date announced, but they've gone by the wayside. I know she's been busy fighting developers - she's pretty reclusive, lives in one of the more remote parts of NZ (I'll be going past the front door in a few days - maybe I should pop in and say hi, but she'd probably pull a shotgun on me).

//... Another is Kapka Kassabova's "Reconaissance - about an Eastern European's first experience of New Zealand

i found this book hard to get into at first, but as i got further into the book i became more and more hooked, couldn't put it down.

I'm reading Hulme's The Bone People at the moment - I'm loving every sentence of it. She spent 12 years writing the thing and the intricacy is astounding. It is NZ's only Booker Prize winner - which drew me to it in the first place. It's a very idiosyncratic novel stylistically, and because of this, as well as its striong subject matter (as mentioned above), it's not to everyone's tastes. Still, if you want a meaty, challenging read - get your paws on it.

Another excuse to travel to New Zealand.

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i've been reading road to nirvana by gina arnold, i really enjoyed it
also the silmarillion by j.r.r. tolkien
and colin meads by alex versey (lack of any other reading material)
i should read more, i just have a $20 fine on my card and i don't posess $20

//i should read more, i just have a $20 fine on my card and i don't posess $20

ha ha ha, thats sooo like me. i had a $50 fine once.......the parentals were not happy with me

p.s. j.jr.: generally wellington libraries let you pay off little bits at a time, u can start to get books out again when you get your fine balance under $10...if you wanted to know.

Only $20? I think mines like $180. Apparently I still have books that I got out when I was 8.

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Anything by Janet Frame. "The Vintner's Luck" is also very good, as myshkin pointed out earlier.

Judith White - "Across the Dreaming Night" (I think that's what it is called). Read it.

Was Janet Frame the one who was the subject of "An Angel at my Table"? I saw the movie, but haven't read any of her books.

yes velocity she was.
I'm so behind on my reading. The last book I read was the new Terry Prachett one, "Night Watch". It was ok.

Anything by Terry Pratchett (Discworld series especially) is awesome. Stefan, there was an author (similar to Pratchett?) that you mentioned in chat once. I didn't write it down & forgot completely, do you remember what that was again?

Douglas Adams? author of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy? That would be the one though it is more correct to say Prachett is similar to him as Adams wrote first.

Terry Pratchett wrote a book with Neil Gaiman called Good Omens. By far the funniest book about the apocalypse ever written.

Right now I'm reading Sewer, Gas & Electric by Matt Ruff, who is somewhat in the same vein as Adams and Pratchett (Science Fiction of the Absurd, as my writing group calls it) but younger.

what else has douglas adams written? i have just finished reading hitchhikers guide to the galaxy...very odd, but good.
i also love geroge orwell books, he's great

Neil Gaiman rules.

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Re douglas Adams question
the Hitch Hikers was a trilogy.... of 4 books...
The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
Life, the Universe and Everything
So Long, and thanks for all the Fish
Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency
The long Dark Tea-Time of the Soul
that was the list as of 1989 it is probably a bit longer now but I started to get a bit bored and stopped looking out for his stuff.

Mega, nope. I remember reccommending Neil Gaiman who, as has been mentioned, did a book with Terry Prachett but he is definitely not similar.

the hitchhikers guide eventually became a 5 part trilogy, the final part being "Mostly Harmless"

How could I forget! Read American Gods by Neil Gaiman last year, after someone had been raving to me for a couple of years about him. Her rave was well justified - will look for Good Omens.

Megaccino - Hitch-hiker's Guide to the Galaxy is an absolute classic of its type, I thought it had become so embedded in our culture that everyone would know about it, but it seems not.

I've probably bought 11 copies of Good Omens because I keep lending them to people and they never give them back. No one else ever thought it was quite as fantastic as I did, but I've been known to have a huge girly crush on the apocalypse. I swear, I'm putting Neil Gaiman's kids through college.

I just finished American Gods. I liked it very much.

"Neverwhere" and "Stardust" are good too and the Sandman comics rule. His blog can be quite addictive as well, he provides a lot of interesting insights.

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Of course I've heard of Hitchhikers Guide To The Galaxy. I even read a quarter of it once (blush) but I don't think that was it Stefan... Can you think of any other author?

I've read Knox's The Vintner's Luck - a love story between a vineyard-owner and an angel (one of masculine persuasion) set in 19th Century Souther France. It's a nice read - fascinating in places, with some great passages - but no masterpiece.

mmk, heres some of the books that i read last year that i found to be bloody good [imho]:

'In my hands - memories of a holocaust rescuer' - Irene Gut Opdyke: type of biography about this womens [the author] experiences during WWII. follows her from age 16 when the war starts and her home country [Poland] is invaded by the Germans. bit of a tear-jerker [then again, that is coming from someone who cried in 'Ice Age' the movie.....go figure]

'Lucky Man' - memoir by Michael J. Fox: best book i read all year, funny and very informative - esspecially about Parkinsons disease. read it.

'Birdsong' - Sebastion Faulks: Anyone who knows me personally will know about my love hate relationship with this book. i love it, yet i hate it SOOOO much. another about the war. this book has some irrelavant parts to it [making an ultra crap ending], but it is pretty graphic [regarding war and sex] which adds a little bit more to the story - there supposibly being a movie made about it.

'After the Rainbow' - Yvonne Kalman [NZ author]: I'm a bit of a sucker for pre-1900's romance novels [god only knows why...], so yea - this is the sequel to 'Mists of Heaven' - if you're a guy - DON'T read this book....you'll probably puke.

i write a fair bit, though haven't done so for a while due to legimitate writing requirements, blah! at the moment, well for the last 5 years or so, i've been trying to finish a novel about the devil ... side effect of my legit writing requirements ... i see elsewhere Velocity, that you've been writing and about unconventional religious views ... sounds interesting! tell me more!

I don't really talk about my stuff in specifics, though to be honest, most people don't ask. I guess I'm just superstitious enough to think I might jynx it, and I have a pretty fair momentum going with this one that for the first time in my life I might actually _finish_ something.

The book takes place mostly in Hell, and I guess my basic dogma is that, regardless of the life we live we end up in Hell if we think we ought to. Or heaven, for that matter; chapter 11 has a mass murderer going to heaven because he feels perfectly justified in killing people. Okay, I think I've said too much.

It's actually become much more of an ethical story, gained much more depth, than I ever thought it would. It's probably a reaction to the country around me deciding to go completely insane.

Recently read:

Gunter Grass - Dog Years
Leonard Cohen - The Favourite Game
Jeffrey Eugenides - The Virgin Suicides
Garbriel Garcia Marquez - One Hundred Years Of Solitude
Keri Hulme - The Bone People (busy with it at the mo)

I've read Gunter Grass - My Century and I'm slowly getting through Mein Jahrhundert (same thing in the original German). A really stunning piece of writing. He wrote 100 short short stories, each about a different year in the 20th century.

Ah yes, I've heard a great many things said about My Century. Have you read any more Gunter Grass? The Tin Drum is, in my opinion, the ultimate novel. Cat And Mouse is a touching coming of age story and Dog Years is another epic novel in the Tin Drum mould, but not as good.
I've heard Grass reads better in he original German. I wouldn't know, as my German is decidely lacklustre, but the translations into English (particularly those by Ralph Manheim) are superb, and seem to capture alot of the baroque beauty of Grass's original German.

I've read parts of Tin Drum in German, haven't gotten around to it in English yet. I lived in Germany for a while and took some literature classes at the University of Bonn. I think the best thing I read there was Heinrich Boll's The Clown. So incredibly beautiful and poignant.

Recently read:

Jeffrey Eugenides - The Virgin Suicides (a tantalisingly beautiful piece of writing. Can't wait to read Middlesex)

Garbriel Garcia Marquez - One Hundred Years Of Solitude (a classic of magical realism)

William Carlos Williams - Imaginations (a book of poetry and experimental prose from one of the 20th Century's great geniuses)

Keri Hulme - The Bone People (busy with it at the moment)

CS Lewis; The Space Trilogy and Till We Have Faces are fantastic provided you're not put off by the obvious Christian overtones.

Gabriel Garcia Marquez is a fave, Milan Kundera, Aldous Huxley, and Iain (M) Banks, all depending on my mood. Nick Hornby for light reading.

On the kiwi front, Witi Ihimaera wrote the story that the new movie "Whale Rider" is based on. The movie got the People's Choice award at the Toronto International Film Festival, beating Bowling for Columbine and Bend It Like Beckham.

Actually, the only kiwi authors I'm personally familiar with are the ones that write kids' books - Maurice Gee, Margaret Mahy, Tessa Duder and ummm... Lynley Dodd. I think I'm going to have to start trawling through award winners on those lazy summer sundays...

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Must see Whale Rider, I've seen bits and pieces about it - do you know if it has hit the screens in NZ yet? Oh, and happy New Year, Heather.

I heard it's out Jan 16th.

And Happy New Year to you too, myshkin!

My favourite NZ author is one that you should check out if you want some very realistic, slice of life, "this is what it's like growing up in NZ in our parents' generation" short stories: Owen Marshall. Also, if you like poetry (as well as short stories, but he's mainly recognised as a poet) check out Hone Tuwhare.
I am going home to NZ for a holiday in a month (with my American fiance!), and intend to bring back many many books as gifts for my friends here in the US.

Tuwhare's quite good. So is James K. Baxter - one of my all time favourite poets, regardless of nationality. Anyone here read Baxter? I seriously think that had he lived another 20 years or so, he may have had a serious look in overseas, provided that he'd sustain the prolific streak he was on before his early death (he was in his 40's). *Sigh*, cruel fate.

Anyone read John Marsden's "Tomorrow When The War Began" series?
I thought they were really good...

Maurice Gee is an NZ must-read for me. His kids books were great when I was a kid, but his books for adults are amazing. One of the few male writers I've come across who can write an entire character-driven novel from a female first person and pull it off. He has also done some amazing things with narrative (try Going West).

Witi Ihimaera's The Matriarch is also a great book.