new zed song - dear oh dear

where to start. this new zed song - 'starlight' i think its called - makes me sick.

im not one to be nutting off at an earnest nz artist for nothing, but when they do this sort of shit is when i cant take it any more. The song actually isnt THAT bad (THAT as in its certainly nothing i would listen to but could understand why a few peple might like it). its sort of a washed out weezer type pop.

however, what IS bad is the video. I actually thought it was a joke - however i soon realised the only joke was the lame 'look at this, its really funny' joke in the video storyline. i won't go into details but what fucks me off is that they have become american. I know this is an allegation levelled at heaps of bands who attempt to make it in the states, and it annoys me no end. but in this case the band deserves it.

The vid is set in an american high school. -1 points
it features bimbo, evil cheerleaders. -2 points
it features jocks in their lettered vests who are also mean. - 5 points
it features a couple of stereotypical 'losers' who intially are luckless but eventually succeed. -10 points
it features screen 'glitter' which is linked to a bottle of powerade(you'll understand when you see it) - many points.
THEY HAVE REMOVED ANY CHANCE OF ANYONE REALISING THEYRE FROM NEW ZEALAND. - a million points.

it makes me really sad. if zed could come on here and explain why they are pretending they are american, it'd be great. also if andy could tell me why he's dyed some of his dreads pink, thatd be cool too (this isnt a bad thing, in fact i'd gamble the record company fought long and hard).
*sigh*

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p.s andoru, ill say it for you "oh yeah well jimi one of your favourite bands are called pacifier and the have done this too."
there i saved you the effort - and its far, far worse, believe me.

// where to start. this new zed song - 'starlight' i think its called - makes me sick.

i guess it's the same way i felt upon hearing ronan keating's album

i agree with u jimi i was watching juice tv and a few cheerleaders came on a video that was just starting and i thought it was britney spears so i changed the channel, but when i flicked it back later i caught the name and title of the song and i was shocked

they're just wannabes, end of story - i can picture my mum buying their crap

//washed out weezer type pop.
sounds like autozamm
just kidding mike.

all animals are equal but some more equal than others. In other words it is alright for pacifier to totally smell like americana but not zed?

// In other words it is alright for pacifier to totally smell like americana but not zed?

Lionel Richie my man, Lionel Richie.........

no way andoru. its totally different.

i am willing to bet you would rather listen to 'run' than this new song.

andoru's response: no jimi i would rather kill myself than listen to anything like that.

I Would rather be strung up by my intestines and get played the entire Zed back catalogue than listen to Run.

The datsuns are the BEATLES, Zed are the Monkees. Pacifer are the exponents.

I Would rather be strung up by my intestines and get played the entire Zed back catalogue than listen to Run.

The datsuns are the BEATLES, Zed are the Monkees. Pacifer are the exponents.

coming from you Andoru!
you who play the most o-ridge-anal!!music second only 2 those great cunts...
blindspott.

I would rather listen to Run than any Zed song even though they do have some good songs.

the fact that it's a weezer cover is why it sounds like weezer.

It's an unreleased weezer track, i thought zed may have given it a bit more of a zed twist, but it still sounds like a weezer song..

And jimi as I already told you in chat last week it was a weezer song I think you pretending now that you didn't know that is a bit lame.... about as lame as them doing it in fact.
As for the vid.......... lets get real here and stop called it a zed vid and start calling it an extended add for some movie called " Hot Chick" or did you not notice what's his face in it?????
Yes it is crying shame, no disagreement from me at all, and when I think back to the songs that were being toured early this year that showed promise, maturity, and a natural progression from the stuff they wrote as young to mid teens, which by the way are not going to be on the new album, looking at the titles that will be on it I get the feeling that they are not being allowed to grow up and are being forced to remain for ever mmmmmmmbop

A warning for all I think in not getting signed too young.......... god I hope someone with a brain is looking after "The Have", and this is the last I will say on the topic of "starlight the radio single".

//god I hope someone with a brain is looking after "The Have",

they do have management...but we all know that that don't mean alot:)......... waiting to be given shit from andrew...

Well The Have i think have apparently been signed, the rumour is universal i think. Wether this will kill them or give them a launching pad is yet to be seen. Their video and single have already been recorded....am waiting with eager anticipation to see if their label have turned them into teen pop rock'n'roll princess's or if they get to keep some of their dignity.

And that would be the same Universal that both Zed and Weezer are also signed to?

ok i didnt know it was a weezer cover. you must have told someone else aka....

//It's an unreleased weezer track, i thought zed may have given it a bit more of a zed twist, but it still sounds like a weezer song..

look at the "success" weezer has had in america. zed is just another clone, in my opinion - the only way they are going to appeal and succeed [which IS their aim] over there is if they perform/record/write[?] songs that sound like weezer...etc...

its not about the music. its about the success. god - i never thought i would say that.

I was under the impression that they got Rivers Cuomo to write the song for them. So it is just a weezer reject song? ha!

//ok i didnt know it was a weezer cover. you must have told someone else aka....

Jimi I am sooooooo sorry yes it was another male teen aged pacifer fan nzmer whos log on starts with a j...........
Shit mate sssssooooooo sorry, I will grovel in person at a later date,,,,,,,,,

yeah, i heard they just got Rivers to write it as well

dammit!

big ups to the zeds, shihads and datsuns, ...these bands are opening doors for other nz bands.... ....nz music lets take over the world !!(better than going down the dairy to buy a bottle of milk, hehe).

It's not so bad. The video is so american, those who are ashamed to be NZers (myself included) when watching can just pretend that Zed ARE american. It isn't hard at all.
...uggg. scum! :)

I think the real reason Zed have got their big launching pad is because they are good looking *and* play instruments. Where as Pacifier and The Datsuns have to make good songs. Zed Cheated!

// Zed have got their big launching pad is because they are good looking *and* play instruments. Where as Pacifier and The Datsuns have to make good songs.

actually, i didn't think there was anything more good looking than the stylishly scruffy datsuns. At the moment their image is fasionable, marketable and most importantly "cool" just like rock'n'roll is at the moment.

The new Zed song is _horrible_ but i think it's off the soundtrack to a movie, so naturally the video is just there to sell the movie to the spoon fed mtv fans in the US. I would find it hard to believe someone in a suit and tie wasn't telling them what to do with that video. Heres just hoping that their next single leaves them with more control as artists and _doesn't_ suck as much as "starlight". Fuck, the original sucked.

zed , pacifier and the datsuns are all bloody brillant! the starlight clip was made in america .. by americans for an american movie ..so that explains the style of the clip .. I dnt think the american produces would consider doin a clip with kiwiana in it seeing it has nothing 2 do with the movie ...or even the song .
we should b supporting these great nz acts as they try and make it big over seas .

how are we not supporting them? just cause we don't like the song doesnt mean we're not behind them [well some of us anyway].

oh if only everything was perfect.

haha! hey jenni! I didnt say u werent supporting them ..coz its so clear that u are in that "zed is just another clone" kinda way! by the by have u been on zed quarters recently ?? we miss ur loving zed comments ! keep up all the support!!

lol. alright then. glad we got that soughted out!. :oP

//by the by have u been on zed quarters recently -=> havent been in there for like six months, tho - did go there on friday to check out the reviews on 'starlight' - felt a bit sick after reading all the "naths hair looks sooo sexy" comments tho. :oP

//we miss ur loving zed comments -=> really? they weren't that great. the zed world makes me sick at the moment.

// the starlight clip was made in america .. by americans for an american movie ..so that explains the style of the clip .. I dnt think the american produces would consider doin a clip with kiwiana in it seeing it has nothing 2 do with the movie ...or even the song .

well put coldplayNzed if the clip looked kiwi ish the americans wouldn't even look at it since their so caught up in their own world.

isn't the idea of nz music to support it so more acts can have a shot at getting a record deal overseas. helping the world see what us kiwis can do. and teach the americans that no new zealand is not attached to australia!

I first heard the song and hated it... but after a few listens it's grown on my slightly. about the video - the song is FOR THE MOVIE. it's not for zed, it's not about the song, it's FOR THE MOVIE. the song is FOR THE MOVIE. the video is made by an American thingy, so of course it's going to be Americanish. their AMERICAN record company wouldn't just go and think "this is a NZ band so we should get a NZ video maker person to make the video so it seems like a kiwi vid".

the good thing is that it will most proberly appeal to the americans. sadly, it's not the zed we know and love - but it's one song and theres still a whole albumfull more to come.

hopefully new fans will go to the zed site and see they have previous released stuff and buy it, so they will still be getting that original zed work that has gotten them to where they are today.

if all else fails, we can give them to the austrailians.

Lol, then they can go fightin' 'round the world :-)

ZED MAKE ALOT OF PEOPLE ALOT OF MONEY,
END OF STORY,

THATS WHY,

sad but true

its marvellously annoying.......the damn song gets stuck in my head - the same tune over and over........i guess that could be their angle - repetition sells....

the song is damn catchy and it annoys me! the video is so unoriginal its just so american! it just doesnt work! but go nz music!

but anyway i might not be a zed fan but i have huge respect for what they are doing
and what they have achieved so far (i know i cant spell!)

all i can say is my respect for weezer has dropped.

but i should have known,
people who live around money get corrupted

can we all just get over money,

PROPERTY IS THEFT

no way around it.

***at least when im talking to teeny boppers i can now destroy any attempt to say z is chch band

on behalf of the entire legitimate chch music community i would like to extend a formal apology for all things z, past present and future.

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According to the Weezer website, Starlight is a cover of a B-Side, Zed are an Aussie band, and Rivers thinks "Zed has finally done the song justice".

There is a link to the video at the weezer site.

Also, one can assume that the Hot Chick soundtrack will be the only time you'll ever hear Zed and Fu Manchu on the same record.

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Zed are now a New Zealand band again

I chase the red fox of remembered joy to tame or to destroy

you all forget the ACTUAL ZED MASTERPLAN - this is to become as famous as possible then reach the unsaved with a message of the risen Lord JESUS.

they are homos anyway! just dont listen. gay haircut too NATHAN!
P.S. nathans haircut cost Universal about $900NZ. HA!HA!

you all forget the ACTUAL ZED MASTERPLAN - this is to become as famous as possible then reach the unsaved with a message of ........ Eat More Chocolate.........

oh yeah - the evil brains behind the band is gay too - RAY, shame on you!

what an embarrasing manager! HA! HA!

hmmmmm, this is andy from zed here,i just saw this website and i couldnt contain myself,
im fascinated with some of the members comments,some people are as thick as pig shit, its very amusing.
There are some random comments about the music industry which alot of think you understand when you dont. and who was the genius to complain about the starlight video looking american when its for a fucking american film...duh.
thanks to the fans for your support, the new album is not too far away,which will probably sound like torture to some of the winghers out there.
and as for pacifier, I love em,always have and always will,after making about as much money as someone from mcdonalds does in a year for 10 years can you blame them for trying to crack the states?
or us?
does anyone give russell crowe shit for putting on an american accent?
and what is the new zealand sound anyway?
ive played with bands from sweden who sound like bands from here,and the datsuns are great but the strokes etc have opened the door for bands of that nature,and we certainly didnt invent this music.
where did rock and roll come from in the first place? AMERICA.
at the end of the day who cares?

new zealanders do love to pick holes in everything, if i was pacifier, i would disown nz because so many people have treated them like shit lately,because they think they own em......

ohhh cant wait for the response to this one....
peace

hi andy from zed, i'm ted from zed.

// if i was pacifier, i would disown nz because so many people have treated them like shit lately

zed get far more shit than pacifier ever have or will. you must REALLY want to disown nz. suits me.
I think the controversial comments surrounding pacifers new album are valid and have mainly come from fans of the band and people who care about music as an art form not a commodity. zed however have never made any credible music and would not draw such attention because noone really cares enough to take them seriously.

// does anyone give russell crowe shit for putting on an american accent?

russell crowe is an actor, oh wait so are zed, sorry my bad

you guys should do a tour with the wiggles, no wait you already have they 5-13 yr old market sewn up.

nice name soundgarden number 7. even though i dont really believe you are from zed, its been a pleasure anyway

whats the 7 stand for??

fuck off man
even IF you are andy
don't try stirring shit up
i respect zed for their acheivements they've gone far, maybe other bands deserved it more, but who can say that???
having looked over the zed forum recently i'm pretty sure ur just trying to stoke the ol "zed vs. everyone who don't like em" debate
the real andy would talk about all the people who support zed, cause there are a few, including me, i don't hate em, i don't like em much but i'll go to a gig if its cheapish...
remember everone
judy
dude
saul
toady
they all try stirring shit up
and it is VERY unlikely that soundgarden7 is andy

soundgarden7 if u are andy prove it man...

otherwise, hes just trying to bait us into a big anti-zed debate

personally i think he just wants to get the topic in the hot 3 topics column, so he can gloat about how easy it is to manipulate us

ha you think I'm soundgarden7?

//does anyone give russell crowe shit for putting on an american accent?
I give Russell Crowe shit because he's a plonker.