5 trillion billion dollars to anyone who can bridge the gap between these 2 bi-polar genres... why do 'rock' fans seem to come off like pigs when complaining about dance stuff, and why do 'dance' dj's hate rock so much? RE-MIX reckons rock is dead don't they? And can anyone agree on what 'dance' should be called as a genre - is it 'electronica' or ____?
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and does it really matter anyway :)...
and does it really matter anyway :)
ooooohh.....maayte what a can of ...
ooooohh.....maayte what a can of worms
Music is an emotional thing (for me anyway), you know the feeling when you hear a really rocking track and it just hits the spot, it gives you that feeling that makes you want to keep looking for it again as the last did an few moths ago.
Who has the right to tell me what "hits my spot" or where it is. I dont care if its rock, pop, dub, dance, electronica, blah blah blahblah.....
If like it I'll listen to it.
Well thats how I feel anyway }:-)
Dance is so different house, hip hop ...
Dance is so different house, hip hop trip hop, pop, tecno, dub etc .....but electronica I think of as no vocals! and rock we every body will always like different things
A lot of the time it seems to be not ...
A lot of the time it seems to be not really rock vs dance at all, rather "good" vs "not good" regardless of genre.
I mean there are a lot of atrocious dance/pop songs around - stuff that practically comes pre-installed on a karoke stereo and in just the same sense there is some absolute shite rock out there too - total formula stuff like Creed or Live. So personally when I judge a track it doesn't matter what the genre is - it comes down to the originality, execution, creativity and passion of it - whether it's 4:4 or 120 bpm doesn't matter.
yeah!!!...
yeah!!!
yeah but....<p> I guess I'm more ...
yeah but....
I guess I'm more interested in why danceheads just can't stomach anything that sounds vaguely like a rock song. Why do people keep trying to make rock dead? I mean polka isn't 'dead'! It seems dance is on a one way crusade to erase rock type stuff. I used to be fully electronica oriented and didn't listen to traditional song structures at all. Then I began to miss the classic song catch riff chorus etc. I thought this was just me but it seems the whole world forgot-da-rock for a while there. Bogans are back I reckon - Shihad live over summer got me thinking - hey, ACDC are even cool again. I'm looking forward to the new Tool album as much as an Amon Tobin or a Mogwai album.
The two genres will only remain apart ...
The two genres will only remain apart if the artists and musicians want them to. Turntables are becoming are too frequent addition to a rock bands arsenal and what electronic artist is going to complain if a rock band brings them into the mainstream where the audiences are instead of underground clubs where they normally hide out playing to the loyal and die hard. I don't really see a problem with it unless the dance music takes over the meaning and message of the rock music which defies it's purpose being included. Dance music can add dimensions to a rock song that guitars and drums can't. This avenue needs to be explored to create journey's of music and not just performances.
mastertron, your comments keep echoing ...
mastertron, your comments keep echoing in my head especially when I occassionally listen to Channel Z where the kids are definitely into that rock/dance crossover thang. cheers enlightened one.
hmmmm.....most good rock you can dance ...
hmmmm.....most good rock you can dance to anyway. Wasn't it called rock and roll once? A place where people could dance and feel liberated and forget about all their worries? The two cultures seem to run by a different set of rules different rules, but they're both a means to the same end, a good time. Maybe young people who are going through some difficult shit in their lives can't identify with the empathy of loved up dance choons. Nirvana have got a lot to answer for (not their fault...blame marketing...I do).
There is hope though ;) The Flaming Lips "The Soft Bulletin" album has a few of the answers.
I have this theory about dance music vs ...
I have this theory about dance music vs rock - I've always been (and still am) a rock chick, I came to London and got thoroughly fed up with dance music (which is played all the time). However, after a while the rave scene really grew on me. Anyway, my theory is this:
Rock music is designed to provoke emotional responses - hard rock or punk is invariably either exuberant or angry, or there are rock ballads that are loving or yearning - that kind of thing. So as a rock fan I get an emotional high from the music.
However, dance music is usually designed to be emotionally devoid - instead it appeals to a more physical aspect of a person - I get a high more from the physical exertion and the rhythmic, hypnotic quality of the music.
I reckon most people get into the euphoria from either one or the other, and if you're not getting the particular high that you're used to, the music just comes across as a bunch of bollocks.
rock is dying because it has been over ...
rock is dying because it has been over commercialised eg zed creed etc
it has lost its soul and people realise that . There is still some good rock music out there , and now the money men have realized electronic music is good for a buck too, but electronic music (especially idm) is still where its at