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www.venn.co.nz ... recently moved to welly

ooooh wicked, just like below - however i guess they would have a range of producer people, so one of them would surely be keen :p

contact details? preferably email

nah i don't reckon man. this isnt for release or anything i don't think. we just want to get ourselves down on cd. so it would be a relatively small run of about 5 cd's. therefore doesn't have to be amazing but we would like it to actually represent what we sound like

wicked bro, would this 70's guy be interested in our new stylez rock tho? phaser is cool anyway ;)

contact details???

well if we ever get some money bro - tho i think we are lookin at being able to transport ourselves first off aye :p ............ and no offense but as wise as you are, just cos u say it's shit doesnt mean we would scrap it. artistical integrity and all that.

zeal, good quality? and would that be all playing at once or tracking instruments seperately? producer?

cheers dude

// semi average producer

below semi-average..more like it. somewhere between crap and not so crap.

// just cos u say it's shit doesnt mean we would scrap it

of course not bro, not my place. perhaps i should of said "tell you what kicks ass and what doesn't kick ass not quite yet"

zeal will track it for ya for that price. good quality for $15 an hour buddy. that includes engineer who will do a bit of studio production for you, but no pre-production unless you arrange something with him (matt)

pre-production

ie. tweaking your songs in practises before recording, working the arrangments better, having someelses input who hasn't heard the songs a million times over, what works and what doesn't. working on melodys etc. Basically getting songs fuckn sorted so you can nail it straight away when you record and they will be arranged the best they can.

in studio production

ie. making sure you get the best out of your gear, working with you to get the best sound from your amp, gats and shit. coming up with ideas to fill gaps/empty sonic spots that you prehaps didn't notice during pre-production. (all this is not an engineers job, so don't expect it. You can ask him if he'll do this, he may or may not be keen.)

you'll find email/phone for Matt Barnes (fxaudio) on the zeal site. http://www.zeal.org.nz

If you get a really experienced producer, they will do both for you. however it may cost some money, especially since you'll need them to come to several of your practise's and then come to wellington with you. Just work out what you can afford, then offer it to soemone you respect with studio experience. Ask anyone you respect in Nelson to come along to your practises and have a listen to your stuff, you will soon see who has the talent to produce, some think they can (me) but suck, others fuckn rule.

don't get to hung up on production if you are just recording a demo, just produce it yourselves, then once you've demoed, save some money up, send that demo to some people you would like to work with and then go record again.

Just step outside of yourselves, listen to your songs objectively, and as a wise man said to me last night "you can't polish a turd". So work on your best songs, trim the fat, get rid of unnessesary shit, try different ideas, take out gats where there are gats, add in gats where there are none, work on tightness as a unit. work on the songs dynamic shit. but you know this, you guys got a high score in the rockquest so you prob know how to write songs.