WARNING: REALLY CRAP HUMOUR AND STUPID STUFF YOU DON"T WANT TO KNOW AHEAD
So what is up with Diet Coke...with Lemon and Pepsi Twist? Seems Coke is up to their old tricks, aye. See I read a book and there were no pictures but it was a book none the less. It was by some ex-Coke marketing guru/guy with a bad haircut. Now Pepsi a while back wanted to bring out this revolutionary, crazy, choice for a new generation that hadn't heard Michael Jackson drink called Pepsi Crystal. It was clear. Coke being the big daddy who knows best decided that the drink was superfluous, "Yo mama" the board of directors proclaimed, and hatched their cunning plan. They released Hi C, a clear cola that was a diet drink. Mwah ha ha ha. What? Please don't stare at me so blankly. See what that did was position the clear drinks as a diet drink. Pepsi Twist umm Crystal was not a diet drink. The consumers were confused. The market collapsed. The drinks disappeared. The Coke board of directors called up Pepsi on conference call and shouted "BOOYAH!"
I like Pepsi Twist. Don't be a confused consumer. It is not a diet drink.
Chippies are too salty. I can't eat them. Don't tell me as I get old I forget how salty they were. Chippie companies suck.
Bite size bars are getting smaller and smaller. Remember when bite size Moros were the same width as an actual bar? Wait a minute they are, normal Moros have shrunk as well.
Got any other pet peeves with food/drink/necessities?
APOLOGY: I am sorry for using this forum as a venting machine. I know it gets boring and irritating but corporations are pissing me off at the moment.


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McD's fish burgers get smaller and ...
McD's fish burgers get smaller and smaller everytime i get one.. so do there other burgers but i notice it with the fish burgers more.. theyre getting pretty tiny now!
yeah i remember when i couldnt eat a ...
yeah i remember when i couldnt eat a whole big mac, now i can eat 2
hang on i was 5 then, maybe you have grown too?
DIE MCDONALDS DIE... a point to ponder ...
DIE MCDONALDS DIE... a point to ponder mcdonald eating swine.
Happy meals...glamourised to kids...the stupid toys that come with...made by little children in the third world, so little western fukks can get cancer inducing food & play with the stupid futile plastic bullshit because of little over workd children in the east. go figure. Little bit fukked up hey?
I hate corporations. I hate McDonalds. MakeYourself - If you are in Welli, try Feedback burgers, they are big, fat, & juicy, good price. Aucks...BurgerFuel...mmm tasty treats
ahh...finally more people who hate ...
ahh...finally more people who hate McDonalds, coke, nike etc. yay. check out www.adbusters.org and anti-ignorance
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pitchblack- yeah i love burgerfuel and ...
pitchblack- yeah i love burgerfuel and burgers winsconsin (sorry dont know how to spell that) but unfortunately when you're starving and all you have left in your wallet is $5, mcDs is the way to go.. but yeah i dont have it that often
There is just so much wrong with huge ...
There is just so much wrong with huge corporations...I know that it is business, but its all about the dollar. Have been vegetarian since I was 15, so I realised the full extent of how disgusting McDonalds is. Starfucks...hate you too. Have had the coffee once, and felt so disloyal to Fidels, that I had to go and a coffee there too! I am alllll for the support of NZ cafes, clothing & food. Because obviously in affect it goes back to our people. I just believe that it is important. I try and encourage most of the people I hang around with & work with not to support corporations. If I feel like cola, I have Phoenix, it is waaay healthier and NZ made! Oh yeah tastes better.
Stefan the book..... the coke ...
Stefan the book..... the coke wars?
now marketing and dirty tricks don't let me get started!
nah it was the guy's own book mainly ...
nah it was the guy's own book mainly about how marketers have been getting it easy by hiding behind seemingly unmeasurable marketing hijinks as brand imaging. He says they are measurable and marketers should be held more accountable. Marketing should increase sales, blah, blah. I didn't finish the book, it had to go back to the library.
i am disappointed with this topic yet ...
i am disappointed with this topic yet only in the sense that you will set off lucifer_sam again
if that does happen jimi, my humblest ...
if that does happen jimi, my humblest apologies. I needed to vent.
I don’t know, I reckon in some ...
I don’t know, I reckon in some circumstances portions are getting bigger, you know like ‘they’ are trying to force us to consume more, e.g. what’s with that new 2.25 liter Coke range?………why so big? How come we couldn’t just buy two 1.5 liters or something.
I remember when the biggest size drink you could buy was 1 liter, shit a liter is a lot of coke, but we’re just getting used to it. We expect large portions just like the yanks, they have chippy packets the size of a small child, its gonna be crazy when they start introducing the 3 liter range of Coke, it’ll take up half the trolley.
Speaking of supermarket trolleys aren’t they getting bigger to? I’m sure they are way bigger then they used to be, Its obviously an evil ploy to make us buy more, I mean I kinda feel a bit inadequate when ive finished my grocery shopping and my trolleys only 1/18th full god dammit.
I generally assume that any bottle of ...
I generally assume that any bottle of drink bigger than 500ml is intended to be shared by more than one person, though I do know people who prove that that's not always the case.
One thing that particularly annoys me is when something is available in three sizes: medium, large, and extra large. How can the _smallest_ size be medium???
//I do know people who prove that ...
//I do know people who prove that that's not always the case.
Yeah my flat mate drinks a 1.5L of cake a day, thats (I think) 10.5L a week, and hes got no fillings!!!!!!
3L range? Our flat has good word it is ...
3L range? Our flat has good word it is 30L of coke all the way baby.
Yeah, I was reading an article the ...
Yeah, I was reading an article the other day about how you can't buy Small drinks anymore. The smallest size you can get in most places is called Regular. In fact you can still purchase a 'short'(I think they call it) at a Starbucks, but's its not listed on the menu(bastards). But is it actaully bigger than the small used to be? Also note that the states is the most obese country in the world, go figure.
in canada they have 591Ml cokes [its ...
in canada they have 591Ml cokes [its written on the label] i mean, come on??? - how fucking precise is that?!?!. i was like, stingy - can't they make it an even 600???...
and talking about pepsi twist and shit - vanilla coke.....*puke* and pepsi blue *puke again* both, i fully don't recommend. coke is coke, pepsi is pepsi....keep it that way.
Jenni - I think the 591 ml thing is so ...
Jenni - I think the 591 ml thing is so that they can use the same size bottle in Canada as in the US, where they don't do metrics - you'll find its a pint or so.
myshkin - of course i'm not smart to ...
myshkin - of course i'm not smart to figure that out, don't shoot - i'm a born and bred kiwi girl, who doesnt even know of anything else but metrics.
but argh - its still annoying, i was like going "wtf?"....its all america's fault, them having to be all "different" to the rest of us, its like they think they're more inventive or something. it pisses me off.
talking about cups, [also in canada - probably america too] at maccas, their medium cup is the size of our large cup - and they have like jumbo jumbo sized cups - they are like as big as one of those medium popcorn containers you can get at hoyts - its crazy. everything comes in giant size. -=> //they have chippy packets the size of a small child <=- its true - what is with that??
AND another thing - they have salads at maccas over there - come on.........need i say more?
[i was absoloutly fasinated with the whole maccas experience while i was over there okay?]
Speaking of Starbucks sizes... When ...
Speaking of Starbucks sizes...
When I was in Australia last year, I noticed that Starbucks coffess comes in short, tall and grande sizes, where as here they come in tall, grande and vente.
Also, I believe that New Zealand is the only country in the world where lattes are served in those great big bloody soup bowl thing. Legend has it that came about by a popular cafe owner confusing cafe au lait (the French milky coffee which is typically drunk at breakfast) which is served in bowls with caffe latte which is normally served in a small glass.
I mean, every had a meal at a restaurant and ordered a latte afterwards and tried to drink this huge bowl of coffee? It's silly.
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most Welly and Chch cafes serve Lattes ...
most Welly and Chch cafes serve Lattes in a cup or mug by default, you normally have to specifically order a bowl. Perhaps it's an Auckland thing?
As for the labelling of cup sizes - everywhere I've looked recently there's been a picture of the cup along with it's label. So even if it's labelled tall, you can tell that it's the smaller one. I can't really see a problem here.
Sorry I need to vent a bit further, ...
Sorry I need to vent a bit further, since Stef had his go.
REGIONAL ENCODING FUCKING SUCKS!
My girlfriend just got here from Canada with her G4 mac laptop. Sweet we can watch dvd's on it. Our place is pathetically underfurnished we have two bean bags and some chairs to prop the mac on to watch dvds, but guess what we couldnt watch them at first because those price-fixing, colluding fuck-wits of studios have got the stupid regional encoding. Yes there are ways to get around it through hacks etc, or they grant you 4 magical change region wishes(we've used one). But why should I feel happy they have 'let' me switch my encoding 4 times, or 'hack' it. I should be able to do it anytime I want, and purchase dvd's from wherever has the best price. ok thanks. feel better.
Global economy my ass.
you can get your dvd player ...
you can get your dvd player de-regionalised at dick smith (i think). if you have a phillips one, you can get them to do it as well. wouldnt have a clue what to do with a mac laptop though.
i agree, the change region 4 times thing is very annoying and frustrating!
thanks prozaco. yep, a real bummer. the ...
thanks prozaco. yep, a real bummer. the worst part is we have dvd's from Canada that we can't watch without switching back, which would mean switching back again if we want to rent, so basically it would use up two wishes to watch a movie we own. Princess Monoke and The Professional will be collecting dust til I figure a hack for the mac firmware. And what is the point of encoding a laptop, isnt it supposed to be frickin portable! aargg. Down with greedy corporations.
You have Princess Monoke? Any chance of ...
You have Princess Monoke? Any chance of being able to borrow it?
The Professional gathering dust? A crime, I tells ya.
yeah stefan, you can borrow it someone ...
yeah stefan, you can borrow it someone might as well enjoy it. just take care of my baby. Remind some friday when we'll both be around.
why? why this regional encoding I ask? ...
why? why this regional encoding I ask? I remember the brief fling we had when you could go down to the video store and rent whatever was currently playing at the movies for the very reasonable price of $7 for however many people can fit in the couch (or beanbags). Now you are forced to go to the movies for $24 for two, where you are encouraged spend even more money on gigantic 'regular' drinks and a bag of popcorn so big you could sleep in it. oooh movie theatres that's a whole nother vent....
regional encoding sucks
It's the pirates!. Wouldn't you want ...
It's the pirates!. Wouldn't you want to protect your precious DVD sales from evil pirates with their swords and cannons and eyepatches and hooks for hands?
Global economy = big boys scarfing up ...
Global economy = big boys scarfing up the globe - if they can sell it 12 times over why wouldn't they ....
also if the dvd for a certain movie ...
also if the dvd for a certain movie comes out in the US, sometimes the movie hasn't even hit cinemas in other places (like europe etc). they don't want people being able to buy the dvd before the movie comes out, thus: regional encoding.
movie theatres... The price keeps ...
movie theatres...
The price keeps going up! what is it $12 to see a movie now - or has it jumped again?
You pay $12 and then get stuck in a mini theatre with a screen not that much bigger than your telly and a soundsystem worse than your car stereo. and it still costs 12 bucks!
You cannot buy anything for $5 at the candy bar except water! Everything's giant - giant m&ms, giant bags of popcorn, giant drinks... the smallest thing they have there is a punnet of tangy fruits that cost $275.30.
i guess I should go for the conspiracy ...
i guess I should go for the conspiracy angle..... well it ties in with the encoding issue - regions mean people have to go to the theatres or wait months and months. Mcdonalds is usually in the theatre multiplexes selling tiny burgers, leaving you still feeling peckish after you'e bought your movie ticket, so therefore when you get to the candybar, you are forced to part with the remainder of your cash for a bag of malteasers big enough to feed a small african nation...wheres the conspiracy? what's the bet that whoever put pressure on the DVD manufacturers to include regional encoding owns maccers also has a shareholding in a large cinema chain, is on the board of cocacola and chairman the confectionary company that bring us malteasers.... oh you don't believe me?
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ohhh front row seats should be half ...
ohhh front row seats should be half friggin price!
allocated seating sucks - first in ...
allocated seating sucks - first in first served.
and how come if there is 3 people(all ...
and how come if there is 3 people(all there seperately) in the theater you are all sitting together!? They know you're going to move right? the movie clerks are having some fun I think.
i quite like allocated seating. i used ...
i quite like allocated seating. i used to go to the movies, sit where i liked with my friends, only to be told to move further into the corner so the usher could put some LATE PEOPLE in our seats! so really it wasn't "first in first served" anyway. plus, i dont think they enforce the allocated seating unless the cinema is quite full (like at premieres)
> ohhh front row seats should be half ...
> ohhh front row seats should be half friggin price!
Not at a decent theatre like the Embassy...
At the Queen Street Village cinema, ...
At the Queen Street Village cinema, full price adult tickets are $13! But as far as I know they are $12 at all the others.
There are a few smaller, independent cinemas around Auckland that offer really big comfortable seats (practically armchairs) with heaps of leg room - I can think of the Lido and the Bridgeway, but there may be others.
Village are in the process of building a bunch of new cinemas that will have Gold Class cinemas (that's the name their given in Australia). Gold Class are have nice seats with lots of leg room and you can buy coffee, wine, cheese and fruit platters, etc to take into the cinema. Tickets cost more, but the cinemas are smaller and are likely to be free of annoying audience members.
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I was going to mention the Embassy as ...
I was going to mention the Embassy as an exception but lets face it, they can only show one movie at a time, you can't limit yourself to just there.
Now way - allocated seating rules. ...
Now way - allocated seating rules. There's already the element of "first in first served" with allocated seating. Your mileage may vary but I find the people at the ticket booth usually let you pick your own seats when you get their early enough.
Allocated seating is great because you can get decent seats and turn up to the theatre late enough to avoid the ads but still on time to see the trailer for the next LOTR film.
Allocated seating is great because you avoid the problem where you're waiting in the line to get into the theatre and a group of 20 push in ahead of you because one dude was saving their place and what the fuck are you going to do about it because there's only 4 of you and 20 of them.
Allocated seating is great because it rewards people who are anal about being on time for things to the point of turning up hours early. People like me.
//Allocated seating is great you ...
//Allocated seating is great
you rock the casbah
// it rewards people who are anal about ...
// it rewards people who are anal about being on time for things to the point of turning up hours early. People like me.
that would be my problem right there... they have ads before movies?? ;p
yeah i guess allocated seating has it's merits, only if they let you choose your seats though
ads before movies are great to make fun ...
ads before movies are great to make fun of, many a laugh can be had.
People get paranoid about sitting near ...
People get paranoid about sitting near the front. Sure, in old-style movie theatres it can be really unpleasant, but most of the new Village cinemas in Auckland are designed pretty well so that sitting neat the front isn't particularly unplesant.
But I still hear people saying "don't sit there! You'll get a sore neck!". I've been sitting in the third row since 1993* and my neck isn't sore.
* Yeah, they clean around me and bring me food at night.
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try front row at reading cinemas. You ...
try front row at reading cinemas. You are so close to the screen that it isn't just an issue of a sore neck but you can see up the actor's noses. You don't enjoy the movie as much because you are as involved as you would be without having to scan your head to catch movement while you guess at what that big splotch of colour is.
it's all about immersing you in the ...
it's all about immersing you in the xperience stefan. Dont you feel immersed!
Get a buddy to sit on the other far end of the front row, then call each other for updates on whtas happening on their end of the screen. :)
stadium and live theater tix are priced by quality, so movie theater tix should be the same, no?
silly me. two dollars more you say for ...
silly me. two dollars more you say for this new interactive viewing that builds your team-working skills? sure.
for just a dollar more on top of that ...
for just a dollar more on top of that you can have the jumbo popcorn.
Just to respond to the original posting ...
Just to respond to the original posting - the proliferation of Coke flavours for once isn't part of the Coke-Pepsi wars - it is actually Coke's play in a battle which is even more evil. Coke noticed that its sales were static, soon to be overtaken by sales of bottled water, decided the way to go was to to have a variety of Coke styles. I haven't heard that it has actually worked - but what I don't get is how come people are suddenly willing to spend so much for water - $2.50 for 500 ml. Just because it has a brand on it, it is now worth paying that much for, apparently.
I'll think you'll find myshkin that ...
I'll think you'll find myshkin that in the States Pepsi Twist came out before Diet Coke with Lemon. But here they bet Pepsi to the post.
yeah the whole bottles water thing is ...
yeah the whole bottles water thing is most strange, but then again I know I make sure that we only drink from lidded bottles while out and about......... but I have filled them from the tap at home.